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Need some help on a Walther PP *EDIT* Now with Pics
5/5/2012 9:44:44 PM
Hello All, I just bought a Walther PP for $300 and am looking for some additional information and "how I did". Honestly, it would be great to hear "you got a great deal" but OTOH if I paid too much I am not too worried as it will be a gift to my father anyways because he has has always wanted one. Ok, on to the stuff I am wondering about. The slide and frame have two different serial numbers. Slide is 3851XX P with an AC below, and also it does not have the big Walther banner on the left side of the slide. On the frame, the number is 3889XX. Is this a "war pistol"? There are no waffs. Also of note, there are no import marks. Finally, the handgrips are cracked (which looks like I could spend nearly half what I paid for the gun on replacement handgrips). Thoughts?
Edit: I have now added pics. Also, it seems the magazine is not original as the "PP 7,65 mm" is incorrect for a WWII mag and should read "PP 7,65 m/m"
Edit: I have now added pics. Also, it seems the magazine is not original as the "PP 7,65 mm" is incorrect for a WWII mag and should read "PP 7,65 m/m"
5/5/2012 11:05:16 PM
Originally Posted By Wendelsnatch:
Hello All, I just bought a Walther PP for $300 and am looking for some additional information and "how I did". Honestly, it would be great to hear "you got a great deal" but OTOH if I paid too much I am not too worried as it will be a gift to my father anyways because he has has always wanted one. Ok, on to the stuff I am wondering about. The slide and frame have two different serial numbers. Slide is 3851XX P with an AC below, and also it does not have the big Walther banner on the left side of the slide. On the frame, the number is 3889XX. Is this a "war pistol"? There are no waffs. Also of note, there are no import marks. Finally, the handgrips are cracked (which looks like I could spend nearly half what I paid for the gun on replacement handgrips). Thoughts?
Hello All, I just bought a Walther PP for $300 and am looking for some additional information and "how I did". Honestly, it would be great to hear "you got a great deal" but OTOH if I paid too much I am not too worried as it will be a gift to my father anyways because he has has always wanted one. Ok, on to the stuff I am wondering about. The slide and frame have two different serial numbers. Slide is 3851XX P with an AC below, and also it does not have the big Walther banner on the left side of the slide. On the frame, the number is 3889XX. Is this a "war pistol"? There are no waffs. Also of note, there are no import marks. Finally, the handgrips are cracked (which looks like I could spend nearly half what I paid for the gun on replacement handgrips). Thoughts?
Pics would help, but 300$ for a functional pp is a good deal.
5/6/2012 12:13:46 AM
I think your serial numbers are 1945 so it would be very late WW2. $300 is a good deal but the nonmatching numbers would take away a lot of the collector value. IMHO, I would not spend to much on grips for a non-matching PP. Pictures would be great.
5/6/2012 10:15:08 AM
In doing some more research it is quite likely that this gun was put togeather from parts when the allies liberated the Walther plant in 1945 (based on mis-matched numbers in the proper range). I would like to think it was a GI bringback, but no capture papers I dont think I can prove it. I will try and get some pics up by tonight.
5/8/2012 6:58:56 AM
Just get you a set of PPK/S grips off ebay. The PPK/S grips fit the PP. I got a set of nice walnut grips for my '77 .380 PP for about $30.00 shipped.
I think you paid a bit too much for a parts PP in the condition pictured but it should serve you well.
BTW....Is there a 5-pointed star stamped anywhere on the PP? If so it was built post-war for the French. I don't know who took-over the Walther plant but the French took Mauser and had them produce weapons for French use.
I think you paid a bit too much for a parts PP in the condition pictured but it should serve you well.
BTW....Is there a 5-pointed star stamped anywhere on the PP? If so it was built post-war for the French. I don't know who took-over the Walther plant but the French took Mauser and had them produce weapons for French use.
5/8/2012 11:17:45 AM
Originally Posted By 1srelluc:
Just get you a set of PPK/S grips off ebay. The PPK/S grips fit the PP. I got a set of nice walnut grips for my '77 .380 PP for about $30.00 shipped.
I think you paid a bit too much for a parts PP in the condition pictured but it should serve you well.
BTW....Is there a 5-pointed star stamped anywhere on the PP? If so it was built post-war for the French. I don't know who took-over the Walther plant but the French took Mauser and had them produce weapons for French use.
Just get you a set of PPK/S grips off ebay. The PPK/S grips fit the PP. I got a set of nice walnut grips for my '77 .380 PP for about $30.00 shipped.
I think you paid a bit too much for a parts PP in the condition pictured but it should serve you well.
BTW....Is there a 5-pointed star stamped anywhere on the PP? If so it was built post-war for the French. I don't know who took-over the Walther plant but the French took Mauser and had them produce weapons for French use.
Agreed, you finish is very wore/gone, but the bore looks great. Still will make a great shooter.
5/8/2012 1:51:42 PM
Originally Posted By 1srelluc:
Just get you a set of PPK/S grips off ebay. The PPK/S grips fit the PP. I got a set of nice walnut grips for my '77 .380 PP for about $30.00 shipped.
I think you paid a bit too much for a parts PP in the condition pictured but it should serve you well.
BTW....Is there a 5-pointed star stamped anywhere on the PP? If so it was built post-war for the French. I don't know who took-over the Walther plant but the French took Mauser and had them produce weapons for French use.
Just get you a set of PPK/S grips off ebay. The PPK/S grips fit the PP. I got a set of nice walnut grips for my '77 .380 PP for about $30.00 shipped.
I think you paid a bit too much for a parts PP in the condition pictured but it should serve you well.
BTW....Is there a 5-pointed star stamped anywhere on the PP? If so it was built post-war for the French. I don't know who took-over the Walther plant but the French took Mauser and had them produce weapons for French use.
No star. I agree, the finish is not great, especialy where the hand rests. What is weird is that the left side of the slide still has a great finish, but the right side is crummy. The bore is great shape, suprisingly considering the outside appearance. Like I said, I am not heartbroken if I paid to much with it being for my father and all. I also like the "history" aspect of it having two serial numbers, a conversation peice if you will. I will look into PPK/S grips, thanks.
