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 Help me decide...22 upper for my ar15,HK 416D 22, S&W mp15-22 or other type of 22 rifle?
SwedMike  [Member]
10/1/2012 4:49:24 AM EDT
I want to buy some kind of 22LR but are having a hard time trying to decide what to get. I like the tactical look of the hk 416d or the s&w m&p 15-22 but maybe the way to go is to get another upper for my AR15 what do you all think what should I get?
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wanderson  [Member]
10/1/2012 5:02:28 AM EDT
If you Google the HK the first hit is a review on HKPro's website, overall it looked good but the barrel was actually very thin with a sleeve covering which did not impress me. I think the Walther/Umarex MP5 .22lr is a better product. The S&Ws have a very good rep but if you already have a lower I'd look for a dedicated upper.
PWDahmer  [Member]
10/1/2012 6:11:56 AM EDT
I am in this same dilemna. Its the same price either way basically. I just haven't seen a mp15-22 with the threaded barrel around here or I would have bought one already. The only ones here are bull barrel.
lasnyder  [Member]
10/1/2012 6:24:44 AM EDT
I went the CMMG route... approximate costs off the top of my head

CMMG conversion unit and 1 mag $190
CMMG charging handle $20
CMMG dedicated .22lr barrel $100
BCM upper $100
ARMS free float tube.. off the prize table at Ft Benning...

very accurate with the dedicated barrel and clean...the conversion unit in the 5.56 upper... no better than 3 1/2" group at 50y.... a lot of fouling into the upper receiver and bolt... it allows me to practice with the trigger of my competition lower
-Fozzy-  [Team Member]
10/1/2012 10:17:29 AM EDT
Go with the S&W
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Backwoodz  [Member]
10/1/2012 3:39:30 PM EDT
Duhnams has the Colt on sale for $459. It's a super nice rifle but I bought two of the mossbergs for my daughters to plink with. They had them for $229 last week. They are kinda cheap feeling but very accurate and for kids I do not think they can hurt them.
silentblades  [Team Member]
10/1/2012 3:55:32 PM EDT
Originally Posted By -Fozzy-:
Go with the S&W

This. I just recently got the OD green version and its so much fun to shoot. I have heard bad things about the Colt. Check around for the reviews on it.
Morg308  [Team Member]
10/2/2012 7:32:43 AM EDT
I've heard nothing but good things about the SIG 522 and finally handled one. It's on my short list when work picks up.
RogueSpear2023  [Member]
10/2/2012 1:10:20 PM EDT
The HK 416, and HK MP5 22LR share the same barrel, it's and outer tube sleeve with a thin barrel on the inside. I have shoot thousands for rounds through my MP5 22LR with out issue, sometimes I will mag dump two or three mags no issues to report. I doesn't seem like it would work but it works fine IMO, no noticeable decrease in accuracy.

To the OP I would buy a upper for your AR, or the bolt conversion, although the accuracy is not the best for the bolt conversion. (4MOA+/-) The upper will be cheaper and just seems to make more sense to me. After that I would go with the S&W MP15-22 everyone I know that owns one loves it.
0uTkAsT  [Member]
10/2/2012 1:27:48 PM EDT
Originally Posted By silentblades:
Originally Posted By -Fozzy-:
Go with the S&W

This. I just recently got the OD green version and its so much fun to shoot. I have heard bad things about the Colt. Check around for the reviews on it.

x3. I liked my first 15-22 so much I bought a second just so my fiancee and I both had one to shoot. They're so light and fun to shoot she kept stealing mine.
wonshot  [Member]
10/7/2012 6:39:13 AM EDT
My favorite is the Sig 522, I did ALOT of research before I settled on the Sig.

Got the best reviews and is solid well built platform.
VASCAR2  [Member]
10/7/2012 9:23:25 AM EDT
I went dedicated 22 uppers years ago and is the right decision for me. A buddy wanted a slide fire so he bought the S&W 15-22. The best IMHO is the dedicated upper or 15-22, if you don't mind a different firearm then the Sig 522. I've been around almost all the imported 22's made out of Zmak and I just don't like them.

It'll be interesting to see which of these will still be for sale or even shooting in 20 years. With the spare parts I have for my CMMG upper and AR lower I know mine will be around to shoot if I'm still here and can get 22 ammo.
mouthpiece  [Member]
10/9/2012 2:52:12 AM EDT
M&P 15/22 and Sig 522 have excellent reputations and I have personnally seen them function very well.

I went with the CMMG dedicated 22lr AR upper and loved it so much that i built another and couldn't be happier.
These things are a lot of fun and extremely reliable.
Armson-Oeg  [Member]
10/9/2012 9:40:11 AM EDT
S&W M&P 15-22 Lightweight, accurate, reliable and reliable... had a 10/22 no regrets gettin rid of that
05bowtie  [Member]
10/9/2012 4:10:02 PM EDT
I have a Sig 522 with zero failures.I added a Bushnell TRS-25 Red Dot Sight and love them both.
pirate63  [Member]
10/9/2012 4:47:18 PM EDT
I am a 22 junky. I own a SIG 522, CMMG .22 upper, 3 10/22's, Marlin 795, Marlin Md. 60 and GSG 522. If I were you I would get a CMMG .22 upper if you have an AR. They run great and cost around $360 and its inexpensive training for your AR skills. I have used all these rifles at 2 gun rimfire matches and the CMMG upper seams to be the best option for me and always gets me a strong finish.

I have the CMMG .22 upper on a New Frontier Polymer lower that is 7oz lighter than an aluminum lower. Perfect fit for a .22 upper and 100% reliable.

TrackSol  [Team Member]
10/10/2012 6:33:09 AM EDT
I had the same dilema and was really set on using an dedicated AR-22 upper but went with the 15-22 for the following reasons:
1) I could get a complete rifle for the price of just a dedicated upper. I got the A1 model for $400 out the door.
2) The S&W 15-22 magazines seem to be much more reliable and have last round bolt hold open out of the box.
3) I wanted to make it look like my AR. My AR is a middy with moe handguards. All the dedicated uppers I could find have carbine handguards and the M203 cutout preventing them to be changed to middy. I did end up spending more money on the necessary handguard adapter and tools though.
Morg308  [Team Member]
10/10/2012 3:51:25 PM EDT
My only dilemma with the SIG 522 is I would really like an AR pattern weapon to train with. As a survival carbine, it would really kick ass if it had a conventional tube however, that way you could install an ACE folder as the .22 doesn't require a buffer assy - the main reason I prefer the 522 - compact storage. I've considered buying a 15/22 and tapping the receiver, but for the money it doesn't make sense. Still, how cool would a folding stock, AR style .22 be? Anyway, something to consider. Muscle training is everything. The 15/22 allows you to build a clone of your primary weapon. Still, you have gotta love the SIG. They are reliable as hell from what I understand.
FreezinSig  [Team Member]
10/10/2012 9:36:23 PM EDT
I have a Sig 522 and 556, and now I have a AR dissipator and am having a matching CMMG 22 upper made for it as well.
kyleh  [Team Member]
10/10/2012 10:14:36 PM EDT
Had a gsg or 2 and one of the scar clones. I did like it more than the gsg but I really like the cmmg dedicated upper I have now. It runs like a champ even with bulk ammo and its nice to just pop the upper on. I think I will be getting another lower built tho instead of swapping uppers. I bought the upper complete with the troy trx rail and now I want one on my 556 version.

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