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 best .22 lr ammo for semi auto ,...bulk purchase ???
Ranman223  [Member]
1/5/2004 11:14:10 AM EST
I want to buy at least several bricks of a good .22 lr ammo to use in my semi autos . I got a Browning buckmark and a Marlin 60 .

Usually I just buy CCI in the plastic box with slider top . I have found these to work very well in my Marlin . Stingers work great too .
Wolf .22 is great in my bolt guns but just doesn't do well in my Semi autos . Same for Remington Subsonic ammo .

Need the most bang for the buck .Please list Manufacturer AND Model name .
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DavidC  [Team Member]
1/5/2004 11:21:43 AM EST
I have a lot of 22's, both rifles and pistols, many of them match target guns. While some of them are very picky about the ammo that they use I've found that Remington Standard Velocity Match Target (green/blue box) shoots very well in almost all of them, and at worst, acceptably, in any of them.

I buy it by the case (5000 rounds) for $167.
TWIRE  [Team Member]
1/5/2004 11:24:31 AM EST
I like Dynapoints for an all-around decent performer. I don't think of it as match ammo or anything, but it has consistent accuracy and I think the copper feeds better than lead. Cheap too.

YMMV.
mmsig229  [Team Member]
1/5/2004 11:39:42 AM EST
Believe it or not my buckmark,10/22, and Marlin 60 all devour Remington Thunderbolts, the cheapest .22 ammo on the planet....
Mach1  [Member]
1/5/2004 11:48:04 AM EST
Federal 36gr HP. Sorry, I don't know the product number, but it is sold at Wal-mart in 550 rnd cartons. Some people have difficulty with this round- due to it's sharp nose profile- but I've had good luck with it in my Ruger MKII and 10/22.
Red-Leg  [Team Member]
1/5/2004 1:15:16 PM EST
Another vote for the Federal. Consistent velocity and good accuracy have been my experience.
MadProfessor  [Team Member]
1/5/2004 2:49:52 PM EST
I buy the Remington Golden Bullet 550 packs, my Marlin Mod 60, 10/22, and Walther P22 all eat this ammo well
colibre_45  [Member]
1/5/2004 6:00:28 PM EST
I buy Remington Thunderbolt or Cyclone when I can find it, that's what works best in my 10/22. Does anyone know where I can buy it by the case?
BKinzey  [Team Member]
1/6/2004 5:20:55 PM EST
Federal Gold Medal Match. About $15 a brick at the gun show.

It's important to say what works in mine may not work in yours. Buy a couple of boxes of anything you can, test in both guns and buy what you like best.

Want FUNNY ammo? Buy some Colibre no powder rounds. Use a 100 yard range and a 4x or above scope. Shoot downrange. You will see the bullet as it slows down and drops into the dirt before 100 yards. It's Hilarious!
Turbozag  [Member]
1/8/2004 6:58:33 AM EST
I've tried a LOT of different stuff.

I settled on the Eley "Standard".
Looks like that ammo is now owned by Remington and is called "Standard Target Match" ammo.

It's about $3 a box, but shoots as well as Eley Tenex and Federal Gold Medal Match in my guns.

Hey DavidC, is that the same thing you are shooting? Does it say "Eley" on the box?

DavidC  [Team Member]
1/8/2004 8:07:09 AM EST

Originally Posted By Turbozag:
I've tried a LOT of different stuff.

I settled on the Eley "Standard".
Looks like that ammo is now owned by Remington and is called "Standard Target Match" ammo.

It's about $3 a box, but shoots as well as Eley Tenex and Federal Gold Medal Match in my guns.

Hey DavidC, is that the same thing you are shooting? Does it say "Eley" on the box?




The boxes I have don't say "Eley" on them. Doesn't mean that its not the same amm; Remington may have been making the low-end Eley all along and they have now changed the marketing agreement. Is the stuff you have in a gree/blue box?

Turbozag  [Member]
1/8/2004 7:28:08 PM EST

Originally Posted By DavidC:

Originally Posted By Turbozag:
I've tried a LOT of different stuff.

I settled on the Eley "Standard".
Looks like that ammo is now owned by Remington and is called "Standard Target Match" ammo.

It's about $3 a box, but shoots as well as Eley Tenex and Federal Gold Medal Match in my guns.

Hey DavidC, is that the same thing you are shooting? Does it say "Eley" on the box?




The boxes I have don't say "Eley" on them. Doesn't mean that its not the same amm; Remington may have been making the low-end Eley all along and they have now changed the marketing agreement. Is the stuff you have in a gree/blue box?




Nope. Other way around. It used to be marketed as Eley rifle "Standard" with a brown label Eley box. Then Remington bought the rights to it in the US and it now comes in the familiar Yellow and Green Remington boxes. The first Remington marked boxes I saw were slightly different than the ones used now. They both however, said "made in england" on the box. Thus, made in England by Eley for Remington.

Are you sure about the box colors on yours?

GREAT stuff!
Ameshawki  [Member]
1/9/2004 10:09:47 AM EST
You really need to experiment several different brands in your guns. Semi auto 22's typically will show a preference for one type of ammo over another. But what works in someone else's gun may not be ideal for yours. Find what works in your gun (and it may very well be the cheap stuff) and stick with it.

Getting hollow points to work in a semi can be especially vexing. Some will swallow pallet loads of the the cheap bulk pack stuff and others won't feed a thing.

There is no one sure fire brand.
Turbozag  [Member]
1/10/2004 10:19:52 AM EST
In my search, I found a couple of brands that shot REALLY well and was CHEAP. BUT, there was always the occasional "flyer" with the cheaper stuff. You tend to get much better consistency with better stuff like Eley, Federal Match, RWS, etc. I found the Eley Standard game me the best compromise between accuracy and consistency/reliability. In multiple handguns and rifles, it shoots superbly. I have turned several friends onto using it, I have heard nothing but high praise from all who have tried it.

Not saying it will be the best choice for YOU. But I say be SURE to try it if you are looking for an extremely accurate .22lr round that costs under $4 a box...

One friend says CCI Green Tag works best in his Volq barrel'd 1022. But it didn't perform nearly as well for me.

FWIW, YMMV.
RJK  [Member]
1/10/2004 11:47:14 AM EST
I shoot Dynapoints in all my .22s. It shoots acceptably well in all but one (Buckmark rifle) and exceptionally well in my bull barreled 10/22, Thompson Center Classic, DPMS Upper and S&W Model 41. They are now available at Wal-Mart.
RJK  [Member]
1/10/2004 11:48:00 AM EST
Sorry, double post!
Hoplite  [Team Member]
1/15/2004 1:30:16 PM EST

Originally Posted By Turbozag:

Originally Posted By DavidC:

Originally Posted By Turbozag:
I've tried a LOT of different stuff.

I settled on the Eley "Standard".
Looks like that ammo is now owned by Remington and is called "Standard Target Match" ammo.

It's about $3 a box, but shoots as well as Eley Tenex and Federal Gold Medal Match in my guns.

Hey DavidC, is that the same thing you are shooting? Does it say "Eley" on the box?




The boxes I have don't say "Eley" on them. Doesn't mean that its not the same amm; Remington may have been making the low-end Eley all along and they have now changed the marketing agreement. Is the stuff you have in a gree/blue box?




Nope. Other way around. It used to be marketed as Eley rifle "Standard" with a brown label Eley box. Then Remington bought the rights to it in the US and it now comes in the familiar Yellow and Green Remington boxes. The first Remington marked boxes I saw were slightly different than the ones used now. They both however, said "made in england" on the box. Thus, made in England by Eley for Remington.

Are you sure about the box colors on yours?

GREAT stuff!

When we order cases of the Eley Brown box for practice ammo (5k to a case) it comes in a tan shipping type box and inside the ammo is broken into 500 round bricks (10 boxes) a wrapped in plastic. The boxes are clear with a black piece of plastic around the top where the bullets sit. THe cover is black plastic with a brown Eley label. Never saw any of this remington boxed eley stuff. Does it have the eley headstamp or the Rem one?
jimmybcool  [Team Member]
1/15/2004 2:04:54 PM EST

Originally Posted By BKinzey:
Federal Gold Medal Match. About $15 a brick at the gun show.

It's important to say what works in mine may not work in yours. Buy a couple of boxes of anything you can, test in both guns and buy what you like best.



I would agree until my last purchase.

The original Federal Gold Medal Match 911B was great stuff. If you look at it the primer has a small indentation instead of a flat base. I had great luck with that stuff.

So I liked it so much I bought a lot from Ammoman. Same name and number on the box. But inside the new stuff has a flat primer base. It shoots great BUT I get about a 10% (not a typo) failure to fire rate. I can see the indent on the primer end, but no go bang. If I feed it back through it usually goes off the second time. This happens in my 10/22, my MarkII, Remington Speedmaster and other 22s I have tried it in. It ain't the guns.

For that reason, I would advise against Federal from now on. At this point I too am looking for a decent 22 round that will work in all my guns for a reasonable bulk price.

Hoplite  [Team Member]
1/15/2004 2:34:08 PM EST
I still got about 2k of that Federal with the dimple on the primer. What was the whole purpose of that?
triburst1  [Member]
1/15/2004 3:53:07 PM EST

Originally Posted By Mach1:
Federal 36gr HP. Sorry, I don't know the product number, but it is sold at Wal-mart in 550 rnd cartons. Some people have difficulty with this round- due to it's sharp nose profile- but I've had good luck with it in my Ruger MKII and 10/22.



Yep. Cheap(around $80), reliable in my 10/22, my Marlin 60, and my Mark II, and much, much cleaner than the Remmington Golden Bullet bulk packs.

For killing small critters and blowing holes in stuff, I like Winchester 40gr. PP.
jimmybcool  [Team Member]
1/15/2004 4:36:37 PM EST

Originally Posted By Hoplite:
I still got about 2k of that Federal with the dimple on the primer. What was the whole purpose of that?



I dunno. But for me that was the GOOD stuff. The flat primer stuff has the failures to fire.

I know some guys here will say so what? If it fires the second time through live with it. But it is a PITA to eject the rounds that don't fire and reload them into a new magazine. Every 10 round mag has a failure. Sucks.

Lion_Dog  [Team Member]
1/15/2004 6:08:37 PM EST
My 2 autos, 10/22 and DPMS A22, shoot CCI Mini-Mag well. I just pick up 5000... $200.00.
Turbozag  [Member]
1/16/2004 5:35:11 AM EST

Originally Posted By Hoplite:
I still got about 2k of that Federal with the dimple on the primer. What was the whole purpose of that?



When Federal was developing the Gold Medal Match .22 ammo (with the dimple), they were out to beat the current Russian ammo that was kicking ass in the world at the time.

One of the features on the Russian stuff that was winning a lot of matches was a dimple in the primer end. It supposedly caused a more even burn of the primer material.

I read that in an article on the "new" Federal world-class .22 ammo when it finally beat the Russians in the Olympics back in the early 90's?

I still have a few boxes with the dimple too. I wasn't aware that they had changed it!

They still have 3 grades of the GM right? Two in cardboard boxes and their primo in the plastic box (and dimples)?

Hey Hoplite, I'll take a look and get back to you about which headstamp the Remington/Eley is using now.

I'd LOVE to buy a case of 500 rounds of that brown label Eley Standard! Know where I can find it and about how much it would cost?

Thanks!

Hoplite  [Team Member]
1/16/2004 6:39:36 AM EST

Originally Posted By Turbozag:

Originally Posted By Hoplite:
I still got about 2k of that Federal with the dimple on the primer. What was the whole purpose of that?



When Federal was developing the Gold Medal Match .22 ammo (with the dimple), they were out to beat the current Russian ammo that was kicking ass in the world at the time.

One of the features on the Russian stuff that was winning a lot of matches was a dimple in the primer end. It supposedly caused a more even burn of the primer material.

I read that in an article on the "new" Federal world-class .22 ammo when it finally beat the Russians in the Olympics back in the early 90's?

I still have a few boxes with the dimple too. I wasn't aware that they had changed it!

They still have 3 grades of the GM right? Two in cardboard boxes and their primo in the plastic box (and dimples)?

Hey Hoplite, I'll take a look and get back to you about which headstamp the Remington/Eley is using now.

I'd LOVE to buy a case of 500 rounds of that brown label Eley Standard! Know where I can find it and about how much it would cost?

Thanks!


We purchase all of our ammunition from Champion's Choice It retails for $6 per box of 50 rounds. We buy it by the case of 5000 rounds for $270. We had a match wednesday and as far as I remember the ammo's headstamp was the Eley "E" marking. The ammo was ordered last March so that could be the reason the headstamp may not be a remington one.
BLK223  [Member]
1/24/2004 7:08:04 AM EST
Don't give up on the inexpensive Federal 711B without another try. I also got a brick with many fail to fires...even blamed my pistol for the bad behavior. This ammo had tarnished brass and in general, looked bad. Bought a brick from a different source and have had outstanding results, even with the flat based shell. On my third brick now. I believe the higher grades of Gold Medal still use the dimpled base but are considerably more expensive.
MuzlFlash  [Member]
1/24/2004 1:06:56 PM EST
Well, I don't bother much with match grade .22, but I will say, when shot out of a semi auto, those damn remington golden bullets throw burning powder back into my face.
joozy  [Member]
1/25/2004 11:44:01 PM EST
wolf match target
.22

w000000t

all my guns <3 them

and they shoot awesome too!
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