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 Best railed 1911 for under $1200 for all purpose carry?
NWRed  [Team Member]
11/16/2010 10:29:44 PM
Ive got a friend who thinks he wants a TRP Operator, seems to be the adjustable night sights are the main selling point for him. Is there another comparable railed 1911 for $1200 or less out there I could suggest to him?
GUNSnDONUTS  [Member]
11/16/2010 11:13:53 PM
Rock Island Armory -Tactical.
NWRed  [Team Member]
11/16/2010 11:20:52 PM
Originally Posted By GUNSnDONUTS:
Rock Island Armory -Tactical.


Ive had a couple PI made 1911s, NEVER AGAIN. The steel in the slide was so soft I was able to push down the front sight dovetail down into the barrel bushing with a center punch and a 12 oz hammer while trying to secure the front sight better and then correct that with a BRASS punch and a 12 oz hammer. I couldnt recommend them to anyone that was planning to actually shoot them.
artsohc  [Team Member]
11/17/2010 12:38:00 AM
Colt Rail Gun or Springfield MC Operator
Augee  [Team Member]
11/17/2010 12:46:50 AM
Not sure why he thinks adjustable night sights are ideal for "all purpose carry." Though some do carry adjustable sights, there's a reason there's two categories for sights, adjustable and carry...

If he's dead set on having adjustable sights, honestly I can't think of another railed model in that price range to recommend to him. I suppose it's his pistol and he should get what he wants, though, not as if the TRP Operator is a bad pistol. If you can get him away from adjustable sights, however, I'd think that the Colt XSE Rail Gun, Springfield MC Operator, and Kimber Warrior, in no particular order would all be great options in that price range.

~Augee
Combat_Diver  [Team Member]
11/17/2010 5:07:15 AM
Suggest taking a look at the Double Star railed 1911. Its a forged frame and slide using Ed Brown parts.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/58661

CD
Redemption_IBIG  [Member]
11/17/2010 10:09:27 AM
Are any of the Colts actually parkerized? They all seem to be blackened, blued, or stainless.
ken_mays  [Team Member]
11/17/2010 10:23:40 AM
Originally Posted By Redemption_IBIG:
Are any of the Colts actually parkerized? They all seem to be blackened, blued, or stainless.


No, thank God.
Redemption_IBIG  [Member]
11/17/2010 6:01:19 PM
Why is that something to thank God over? Parkerizing is a good finish, and is one of the original two for the 1911 design.
ken_mays  [Team Member]
11/17/2010 7:25:21 PM
Originally Posted By Redemption_IBIG:
Why is that something to thank God over? Parkerizing is a good finish, and is one of the original two for the 1911 design.


It sucks, IMO. It leaves a rough surface on everything, it's impossible to touch up, and on top of everything else it makes the gun look like a cheap piece of shit.

Its benefits are that it's cheap and marginally more rust-resistant than bluing.
Runs-N-Guns_66  [Member]
11/17/2010 7:45:02 PM
Does it have to be a railed gun, or could you suggest that he have one of these installed?
Sarge901  [Member]
11/17/2010 8:54:01 PM
Our local shop has a Colt with a rail on for less than 1K- barely but less.
Sarge901  [Member]
11/17/2010 8:55:56 PM
How many times does anyone actually have to adjust their sights anyway? IMO it's just something else to get beat up.
jadams951  [Team Member]
11/18/2010 2:24:59 AM
I just got a Colt rail gun for $963 and that included the tax.
Hank  [Team Member]
11/18/2010 6:08:33 PM
I should have one of the DSC railed guns in about a week to report on.
Robert_McLeod  [Team Member]
11/19/2010 8:40:23 PM
Originally Posted By ken_mays:
Originally Posted By Redemption_IBIG:
Why is that something to thank God over? Parkerizing is a good finish, and is one of the original two for the 1911 design.


It sucks, IMO. It leaves a rough surface on everything, it's impossible to touch up, and on top of everything else it makes the gun look like a cheap piece of shit.

Its benefits are that it's cheap and marginally more rust-resistant than bluing.


That really depends on the type of parkering and the metal prep that is done before the finish.
DevilDog0402  [Member]
11/19/2010 9:43:12 PM
Adjustable sights on a carry weapon are definitely not necessary. In that price range I'd recommend the Springfield MC Operator.
prebanyo  [Member]
11/19/2010 9:54:33 PM
how about a springfield champion operator.

Lightweight alloy frame, and commander length barrel make for a great carry gun
SGB  [Moderator]
11/20/2010 12:36:16 AM

Originally Posted By NWRed:
Ive got a friend who thinks he wants a TRP Operator, seems to be the adjustable night sights are the main selling point for him. Is there another comparable railed 1911 for $1200 or less out there I could suggest to him?

Adjustable sights are for gamers and bulls-eye shooters. Carry guns should be fixed sights.

In the $1200 range I'd opt for a Springfield MC Operator or Kimber Warrior.
Robert_McLeod  [Team Member]
11/20/2010 7:05:56 AM
I agree about a serious use gun having fixed sights only. I had the opportunity to put a little over a thousand rounds through a Colt Rail Gun that I was testing for my department and that gun ran like a sewing machine. There was an issue with hammer follow when we first received it, however, Colt made it right within a week and paid for shipping both ways.

beltfed74  [Team Member]
11/20/2010 10:51:00 AM
MC Operator.
Danno_man  [Member]
11/20/2010 11:07:51 AM
for $300 more, some patience and searching (or luck) you can find a deal like this:



mjleo  [Member]
11/20/2010 11:34:33 AM
Sig GSR 4' with rail. thats my conceal carry gun and i love it. 850.00 at the local gun shop!!!
SGB  [Moderator]
11/20/2010 11:50:47 AM

Originally Posted By Danno_man:
for $300 more, some patience and searching (or luck) you can find a deal like this:

http://photosbydon.smugmug.com/photos/1097394658_6aTJ9-L.jpg



If you picked that up for $1500 I'm just ...................................... green with envy.

Danno_man  [Member]
11/20/2010 12:13:44 PM
ok, i lied, it was $1525+tax
JustOneMore  [Team Member]
11/20/2010 1:22:06 PM
Originally Posted By Danno_man:
ok, i lied, it was $1525+tax


yeah, well screw you DANNO!

I'd trade both my MC and TRP operators for one of those. I regularly think of selling mine two operators to fund the Pro or another Brown Kobra with a rail.



To the OP, the Springfield MC Operator is my favorite in the price range, and while I don't like the Green frame, it isn't as bright green in person and normal lighting as the pictures often seem. I paid $1200 for my TRP used which was fair, and lately the used ones seem to command even higher prices. As others have said, the Colt Rail Gun, and the Kimber Warrior are the other two best choices. I do really like the black colts that I've seen and I may buy one someday.
Hank  [Team Member]
11/20/2010 1:39:38 PM
Originally Posted By mjleo:
Sig GSR 4' with rail. thats my conceal carry gun and i love it. 850.00 at the local gun shop!!!


I didn't know Sid made a four foot long 1911. How the hell do you conceal it?

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AWDeity  [Member]
11/20/2010 2:45:12 PM
like this!
pepperbelly  [Team Member]
11/20/2010 7:36:44 PM
Adjustable sights are for target shooting and will snag on clothing when concealed. I am not even sure if they make adjustable night sights.
The adjustable sights usually are used as fixed after the load is developed anyway.
I have a Warrior, and it is a great pistol. The only thing I don't like about it is the front strap is smooth. I fixed that with some skateboard tape. The TRP front strap is checkered- like they all should be.
I have seen TRPs and Warriors for around $1k. If that is his limit either would make a good pistol. If he can wait and spend a little more the Wilson would be an excellant choice, as would a used Baer or Brown. I don't think you will find many of those and if you do they won't be cheap.

Jim
Bhart89  [Team Member]
11/20/2010 9:26:02 PM
$1,000 will pick up a Springfield LW Operator. A great carry gun.

Strela  [Member]
11/21/2010 6:35:18 PM
I saw a Colt Rail Gun at the fun show for $880. plus tax. That's probably what i would get if I were in the market.
Hank  [Team Member]
11/21/2010 7:50:51 PM
Went and fondled eight or ten different models yesterday that basically fit OP's criteria., and I would favor the LW Operator or the Colt out of all of them. Edge to the Springfield if I was worried abou weight.

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Joguwa86  [Member]
11/21/2010 8:05:40 PM
Originally Posted By Bhart89:
$1,000 will pick up a Springfield LW Operator. A great carry gun.

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e314/bhart8911/Operator1.jpg


I second that one:

Hank  [Team Member]
11/21/2010 8:36:23 PM
That's pretty hot.