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 Anyone know what the P2 and P3 pistols were (German Mil/Police issue)?
AFARR  [Team Member]
1/20/2009 8:43:39 AM EST
P1 was a P38.


Haven't seen (in a brief search) anything listed on the P2 or P3.

P4 was an updated (shorter bbl, better safety) P1.


P5 was a Walther.


P6 was the P225 SIG Sauer.


P7 the HK Squeeze cocker.


P8 is an HK USP.



(Yes, there are multiple P9 labeled pistols––HK, FN, Kahr, etc), but I didn't see any reference to the P9 as a German Mil/Police designation for any pistol yet....

Thanks!!
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WG_dog  [Team Member]
1/20/2009 9:29:07 AM EST
P2––SIG P210-4

P3––Astra 600

P9––H&K P9

P10––H&K USP Compact

What do I win?
K1rodeoboater  [Member]
1/20/2009 9:55:40 AM EST
there's a guy who's a german cop in the sig forum...he might be able to help.
AFARR  [Team Member]
1/20/2009 12:50:41 PM EST
Originally Posted By WG_dog:
P2––SIG P210-4

P3––Astra 600

P9––H&K P9

P10––H&K USP Compact

What do I win?


I was under the impression that the P9 was not an issue pistol (just a name). Thanks on the others.
Ross  [Member]
1/22/2009 4:57:17 AM EST
Originally Posted By AFARR:
Originally Posted By WG_dog:
P2––SIG P210-4

P3––Astra 600

P9––H&K P9

P10––H&K USP Compact

What do I win?


I was under the impression that the P9 was not an issue pistol (just a name). Thanks on the others.


The HK P9 was issued as the P9 to the Saarland State Police and GSG9
sic_ness  [Member]
1/22/2009 5:04:45 PM EST
Originally Posted By WG_dog:
P3––Astra 600



Wait seriously?! The Germans adopted that weird-ass pistol?
Please tell me that was only issued to State Shopping Mall Guards
RiffRandall  [Member]
1/22/2009 6:05:59 PM EST
Originally Posted By sic_ness:
Originally Posted By WG_dog:
P3––Astra 600



Wait seriously?! The Germans adopted that weird-ass pistol?
Please tell me that was only issued to State Shopping Mall Guards


IIRC they were from undelivered WWII orders.

Milo5  [Member]
1/22/2009 6:25:06 PM EST
Berlin Police and Border Guards were issued P3 pistols because they couldn't use German made weapons.
Chambered in 9mm Parabellum they were also more powerful than the usual Berlin issued Manhurin made .32acp PP pistols.

Those "weird ass weapons" are actually quite well made and functionally reliable pistols.
tangeant  [Member]
1/23/2009 10:04:04 AM EST
Actually the Berlin PD/ security forces were also issued Manurhin made P1's instead of Walther made P38's.

Manurhin also made the PP's used by about every German PD that had PP's.

Berlin Police marked Manurhin P1 and a Landspolizei Bayern ( Bavarian state police ) marked Manurhin PP.

SD307  [Member]
1/23/2009 10:48:25 AM EST
Man I asked this same question in 2004 and got nothing Thanks for bringing this back to me.

A Sig 210 is $2000+ wow wonder what warrants that?

Edit to add the P4 does not have an improved saftye the saftey was removed and replaced with a decock only lever. The p-38K uses this feature as well and many P38ks you see are really p-1s with the barrel cut and not worth as much as people pay.
AFARR  [Team Member]
1/23/2009 4:42:56 PM EST
Originally Posted By SD307:


A Sig 210 is $2000+ wow wonder what warrants that?

Edit to add the P4 does not have an improved saftye the saftey was removed and replaced with a decock only lever. The p-38K uses this feature as well and many P38ks you see are really p-1s with the barrel cut and not worth as much as people pay.


The P210 is like a Swiss watch (it's strictly Swiss made, not SIG-Sauer made). If you ever get a chance to shoot one, try it....in the hands of someone who knows how to use it well, it can do 4" groups....at 100 yards.

AFARR

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