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Red-ryder  [Member]
7/27/2013 3:53:10 PM EST
I'm looking for a polymer pistol chambered for .45 ACP.

I had posted an earlier thread about FNX vs M&P

I have single stack 1911s and I really like that platform ( quite possible a double stack 1911 ??)

I would consider just about anything , primary ( no particular order )
1. Home defense / SHTF
2. Possible IDPA or other local matches ( but due to cost of 45 ACP
3. General purpose duty style pistol

I'm looking for something good out of the box too

I had ruled out Glocks simply because of an experience at the range with a g21 ( older generation ) felt like a 2x4
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haydendavid380  [Team Member]
7/27/2013 4:24:42 PM EST
Short frame or gen4 21.

ZekeMenuar  [Member]
7/27/2013 5:04:11 PM EST
XD45 Service

Papaw  [Team Member]
7/27/2013 5:37:31 PM EST
[quote]Originally Posted By haydendavid380:
Short frame or gen4 21.

[/quote]

There you go. A MUCH better fit.
NE450No2  [Member]
7/27/2013 6:25:40 PM EST
Get another "real" 1911...

Uses the same holsters, same magazines, controls in the same place, same grip angle, etc...

You will thank me a few years from now...
bushmaster069  [Member]
7/27/2013 6:40:53 PM EST
i've always wanted a high capacity .45 and originally considered a para p14, but there are just too many horror stories out there about para so i couldn't bring myself to risk it. the fnp45 seemed to be the one, with 15+1 capacity, very accurate, and good ergos, but mags were hard to find and really expensive. then they changed over to the fnx45 and the mag design was different and incompatible with the fnp, but the scarcity and price remained issues as well. the m&p and xd didn't have the standard capacity that i wanted so they were out. so i bought a glock 21 and so far its been as close to what i've wanted.
NVGdude  [Member]
7/27/2013 8:34:46 PM EST
[quote]Originally Posted By Red-ryder:
I'm looking for a polymer pistol chambered for .45 ACP.

I have single stack 1911s and I really like that platform ( quite possible a double stack 1911 ??)
[/quote]

Rock River was building a single stack foly framed 1911 a while back. Might be vaporware though.

Furyataurus  [Team Member]
7/28/2013 5:49:08 AM EST
HK USP 45 or HK45.

ken_mays  [Team Member]
7/28/2013 7:41:03 AM EST
I've had most of them at one time or another. They're all pretty good.

I would have no problem buying another M&P, Glock, XD[M], or FNX. I wouldn't buy another HK unless it came with a lot of mags. Those are very expensive for their capacity. The rail also requires its own special version of weapon light, or requires an adapter.

In doublestack 1911s, you have two real options: Para Ordnance or STI designs. There are a few clones of the Para, such as the Rock Island and Springfield hi-cap. Para Ordnance is generally overpriced for what you get and the reliability can be very hit/miss. They are also awfully heavy to carry around loaded all day.

I wouldn't rule one out if you could get a deal on one that you know works well. If you want to shoot IDPA, they can get awfully close to the weight limit, so sometimes you need to lighten them up. They have a few models with a light rail but they are even heavier and I don't think they'd be IDPA legal.

STI produces several variations on their 2011 platform. They are basically the same except for features. .45 isn't the best caliber for these because of the mag design. You can run into feeding problems and slide stop issues with the .45 more so than the other calibers, because they use ramped barrels which presents a steeper feed ramp than traditional 1911 designs, and the slide stop lug often needs to be clearanced so the bullets don't hang up on it.

I'm not saying they can't run well once properly adjusted, but be aware there may be some tweaks necessary. A light rail is no problem on these because they don't add any bulk to the dust cover, which is already wider than the traditional 1911. The Eagle 5.0 would be the way to go for competition, and if you wanted a light rail, you would have to step down to the Tactical 4.0 since long dust covers aren't allowed in IDPA for 5" guns.
boarklr  [Team Member]
7/28/2013 8:35:21 AM EST
[quote]Originally Posted By haydendavid380:
Short frame or gen4 21.

[/quote]

+1
EvgeniBG  [Member]
7/28/2013 10:20:46 AM EST
[quote]Originally Posted By Furyataurus:
HK USP 45 or HK45.

[/quote]

^This.
For the purposes You've mentioned - USP45Tactical (comes with stock Match trigger - not absolutely superior but good enough for IDPA).
stevemc  [Team Member]
7/28/2013 10:45:42 AM EST
If a G21SF or Gen 4 is out then the FNX should be out too. FNX actually feels larger to me than 21SF/Gen4.

M&P is nice but only 10rd capacity with flush fitting mags, same with the HK45.

If you're ok with 10rds then the M&P45 is hard to beat for price and quality of firearm.

I love my G21SF and it feels nothing like the older G21 nor a 2x4.
pat701  [Member]
7/28/2013 12:39:40 PM EST
If you don't mind DOA the Sig P250 45acp has one sweet, smooth DAO trigger.
Pony151515  [Team Member]
7/28/2013 12:52:43 PM EST
I have a Glock and HK which are both great, but I have also had good luck with the mp series, the xd series, and I really did the fn45. Lots of great choices out there. I will say that you should try before you buy. Its not about which one is better than the other, its about which one works best for the person shooter.
boarklr  [Team Member]
7/28/2013 1:53:13 PM EST
[quote]Originally Posted By Red-ryder:
I'm looking for a polymer pistol chambered for .45 ACP.

I had posted an earlier thread about FNX vs M&P

I have single stack 1911s and I really like that platform ( quite possible a double stack 1911 ??)

I would consider just about anything , primary ( no particular order )
1. Home defense / SHTF
2. Possible IDPA or other local matches ( but due to cost of 45 ACP
3. General purpose duty style pistol

I'm looking for something good out of the box too

I had ruled out Glocks simply because of an experience at the range with a g21 ( older generation ) felt like a 2x4[/quote]

You should really try a Gen 4. It's just slightly smaller, but it makes a world of difference in the hand.
les_strat  [Member]
7/28/2013 3:01:51 PM EST
G30. Shoots as well as the 21 IMO. Can use the 21 mags and a sleeve too.
Red-ryder  [Member]
7/28/2013 4:18:54 PM EST


My email came across poorly against glock - I am a big Glock supporter ( currently 4 in my fleet ) and I went to a local gunshop and they had a Glock 21SF Gen 4

I held a FNX and even though it was a LARGE duty pistol - it still felt very good - really liked the trigger & controls seemed easy to get to

, right now the Glock 21F and FNX are the front runners



The rock river poly frame 1911 is really , really a good idea and I'm sure it will be 12-24 months before demand / supply makes them available ( kinda like Rugers when they first came out ) I have yet to even find one to fondle

I really appreciate everybody chiming in , I read this site multiple times each day and post a few things here and there for my own knowledge and try to offer helpful advice when I feel like I'm able to do so
rh1030  [Team Member]
7/28/2013 4:19:08 PM EST
HK USP/HK45
M&P
XD
FNX - if it's not too big for you
mrrick  [Team Member]
7/28/2013 7:09:33 PM EST
2 45s i have

FNX 45Tac


USP 45


the FNX is higher capacity. I go with more round count.
AKMer  [Member]
7/28/2013 7:36:01 PM EST
[quote]Originally Posted By haydendavid380:
Short frame or gen4 21.

[/quote]

+1
S-1  [Team Member]
7/29/2013 12:30:18 AM EST
HK45c. It's the most tested and best .45 on the market right now.
ALPHAGHOST  [Member]
7/29/2013 4:11:12 AM EST
glock model 21/30 sf
M4  [Life Member]
7/29/2013 4:15:42 AM EST
HK45

Best of the bunch and for a 1911 guy, same safety.
M4  [Life Member]
7/29/2013 4:16:35 AM EST
[quote]Originally Posted By S-1:
HK45c. It's the most tested and best .45 on the market right now.[/quote]
Great gun, but it's got nothing on the HK45.
Garandboy  [Team Member]
7/29/2013 4:31:41 AM EST
As mentioned, G21 SF or G21 Gen4.
Chris_1522  [Team Member]
7/29/2013 6:35:48 AM EST
I love my USP. That's all I can add.
Spartan16  [Member]
7/29/2013 6:42:44 AM EST
USP45
bearman71  [Team Member]
7/29/2013 12:05:20 PM EST
Buy an STI????

Edit: If you have a bunch of extra money you need to get rid of...
Strela  [Member]
7/29/2013 1:52:12 PM EST
No one has mentioned it yet, so I will. Witness in .45. I've had good luck with my two poly-framed Witnesses (.45 and .38 Super.)
Nakanokalronin  [Member]
7/30/2013 3:39:25 AM EST
I'd seriously look at the M&P 45FS. Not bulky at all and fits in holsters made for the 9/40 models.
swigert  [Team Member]
7/30/2013 8:00:18 AM EST
Glock is still the way to go. Simplicity and so few parts compared to other guns makes it the easy winner.

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RugerM77270  [Member]
7/31/2013 5:18:50 PM EST
XDM 45 no question
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