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50cal  [Team Member]
4/28/2010 4:14:16 PM
HiPower serial numbers are on the front strap. I know this, but a friend insists that the numbers on the side of the frame near the ejection port are the serial numbers. He came into a BHP second hand. I've tried to tell him how to look up the info on the pistol.
The numbers on the front strap, slide and barrel match. The pistol is in surprisingly great condition. Tried to talk him out of it to no avail.

Any links to where I can convince him that the serial number is indead on the front strap?
Thanks
DHH  [Member]
4/28/2010 8:17:43 PM
Stephen A. Camp posted about the subject of serial numbers in his blog: http://hipowers-handguns.blogspot.com/

Wednesday, April 21, 2010
Why Do Some Hi Powers Have Serial Numbers in Multiple Places?

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There is no universal law decreeing where a firearm's serial number must be. In the US, the frame is the firearm and must be serial numbered. In South Africa, it is the barrel. You get the idea: FN must produce firearms meeting legal requirements of their individual customers all over the world.. There may be countries in which it is required that all three major components of the Hi Power have serial numbers, but I do not know that for a fact. I suspect also that having the barrels, slides and frames of individual Hi Powers numbered make it easier for military units maintaining multiple Hi Powers keep the pistols assembled as they came from the factory after routine field-stripping, cleaning, etc.
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There is more to the post than I quoted. Lots of other info there, too.
DogtownTom  [Team Member]
4/28/2010 11:38:20 PM
Originally Posted By 50cal:
HiPower serial numbers are on the front strap. I know this, but a friend insists that the numbers on the side of the frame near the ejection port are the serial numbers. He came into a BHP second hand. I've tried to tell him how to look up the info on the pistol.
The numbers on the front strap, slide and barrel match. The pistol is in surprisingly great condition. Tried to talk him out of it to no avail.

Any links to where I can convince him that the serial number is indead on the front strap?
Thanks


How many HP's have you actually held?


FN/Browning Hi Powers have had their serial numbers in several different locations on the firearm.
HP's made before WWII will have the serial number on the right side of the frame above the trigger, on the slide and on the barrel.

HP's made post war into the mid '70's usually have the serial number on right side of the frame above the trigger. Pretty much every FN/Browning HP made from 1965-75 (the "T" & "C" series) had the serial number on the side of the frame.
A "T" series here: http://v2.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=166841505
Here's a "C" http://v2.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=166231604

HP's from the mid 70's until the '90's have the serial number on the frontstrap of the gripframe. A few of the "C" series and most of the 245 series were located on the frontstrap.
Like this:http://v2.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=166738124

HP's in the last few years may also have the serial number on the right side of the frame directly above the right grip.
Like this one: http://v2.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=166740551

Here's an HP with a mismatched barrel: http://v2.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=166621556

When FN made contract runs of the Hi Power they would happily stamp the serial number anywhere you wanted and also number them the way you wanted.

Never trust the "Date Your Gun" table on the Browning website. It doesn't fully cover all Browning HP's...like this one:http://v2.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=167115041


silversport  [Member]
4/29/2010 7:37:25 AM
my FN Hi Power and my Browning Hi Power have the serial numbers on the frame but not the front strap...2003 and 2001 manufacture...
Bill
50cal  [Team Member]
4/29/2010 8:14:18 AM
I've owned 4 different HiPowers. All starting with 245 prefixes. Making them 1977 to 1995 I believe manufacture. All the serials were on the front strap
Blitzkreig  [Member]
4/29/2010 10:16:57 AM
IIRC some models like the practical model that came with factory Pachmayr wrap around grips have the SN on the side of the fame.
uxb  [Team Member]
4/30/2010 11:33:04 AM
Originally Posted By Blitzkreig:
IIRC some models like the practical model that came with factory Pachmayr wrap around grips have the SN on the side of the fame.


1969 Belgian, SN on side of frame



Mike92GT  [Team Member]
4/30/2010 12:27:26 PM
+1, I also have a 69C, and there is no serial number on the frontstrap

Originally Posted By uxb:
Originally Posted By Blitzkreig:
IIRC some models like the practical model that came with factory Pachmayr wrap around grips have the SN on the side of the fame.


1969 Belgian, SN on side of frame

http://www.fototime.com/EF4499E7CC3B5E5/standard.jpg



Spook410  [Team Member]
4/30/2010 3:08:44 PM
Let me guess.. the one he bought is either all chrome or black and chrome?

There are lots of good exceptions listed in this thread but there are a ton of used Browning Practicals and chrome models out there (great guns too).

These had their serial numbers on the side because they came from the factory with Pachmayr grips that covered up the front strap.
DaffyDuck  [Member]
4/30/2010 5:19:40 PM
Originally Posted By uxb:
Originally Posted By Blitzkreig:
IIRC some models like the practical model that came with factory Pachmayr wrap around grips have the SN on the side of the fame.


1969 Belgian, SN on side of frame

http://www.fototime.com/EF4499E7CC3B5E5/standard.jpg



Love the grips, very tasteful. What the story on those?
50cal  [Team Member]
4/30/2010 7:14:49 PM
Originally Posted By Spook410:
Let me guess.. the one he bought is either all chrome or black and chrome?

There are lots of good exceptions listed in this thread but there are a ton of used Browning Practicals and chrome models out there (great guns too).

These had their serial numbers on the side because they came from the factory with Pachmayr grips that covered up the front strap.


His has the 245 prefix on the front strap. But has a set of letters& numbers on the frame and slide that do not match. But the numbers on the barrel and on the slide directly under the barrel match the front strap.
uxb  [Team Member]
4/30/2010 9:49:05 PM
Originally Posted By DaffyDuck:
Originally Posted By uxb:
Originally Posted By Blitzkreig:
IIRC some models like the practical model that came with factory Pachmayr wrap around grips have the SN on the side of the fame.


1969 Belgian, SN on side of frame

http://www.fototime.com/EF4499E7CC3B5E5/standard.jpg



Love the grips, very tasteful. What the story on those?


Obviously I'm Irish - but the grips are hand made from ivorywood by Esmeralda.

Esmeralda Custom BHP grips.

I'll be ordering a set of cocobolo grips for my Colt Combat Commander soon.
50cal  [Team Member]
5/1/2010 8:05:06 AM
Wow. Those are nice grips.