Bought a .40 BHP
Picked up this used BHP in .40 S&W (with one mag) in a local shop for $475. Its got MMC fixed sights (is this company even in business anymore?), a Bar-Sto barrel, thin grips (Navidrex?), a C&S ambi safety, and a C&S commander hammer. Seems very clean, inside and out. I think I got a pretty good deal on it. What do you guys think?
Was looking for a BHP in 9mm, but the only Brownings I saw were used and had the old, hard-to-use thumb safety and the tall beercan adjustable sights, which I didn't really want. They were also going for $600-700. I did see a nice FEG for $350, but I think it may have had the S&W style locking system...
Anyways, since a thread is worthless without pics,
Sort of a strange sight picture....like a cross between a Glock and one of those S&W autos with the protective wings on the rear sight:
I probably won't get the opportunity to shoot it for a week or two, but I can't wait. It's a bit heavy, and the recoil spring is wicked stiff, but I love how natural it points, and with the thin grips it feels like a 1911. The trigger is also excellent (smooth take up, crisp break, maybe about 5-6 lbs?), even with the mag safety in place. I don't see why people complain about these Hi Power triggers. Sure, it's not a 1911, but barring that, it's pretty sweet. Better than most DA/SA autos, I think.
Anybody got a good source for mags for these? How are the Mec Gars?
Regarding ditching the mag safety....how tight is that trigger pin usually in there? I tried whacking it (right to left) pretty good with a punch after soaking it in Liquid Wrench, but it didn't budge. May have to take it to a smith for this, since I don't want to bugger up the finish or the pin. Hope you guys enjoy the pics.
Great deal on a great looking gun. I can only hope to get that kind of combination when I buy a Hi Power this summer.
If you really want a 9mm you can get a 9mm barrel for your pistol, after that I think all you need is a different recoil spring and 9mm magazines. You will have to order a 9mm barrel for a .40 HiPower as the .40 has an extra recoil lug. Bar-Sto used to offer them.
BTW great buy!
Yep, here you go, $215 plus whatever your smith charges to fit it. Barsto charges $175 to fit a barrel but by the time you ship it to them it will probably be cheaper to find a local that can do it. You'll still come out ahead over a new 9mm and you will have a better set up for shooting +P.
ETA Mecgars are good to go, they make the factory magazines that Browning sells.
Thanks for the feedback. I'll definitely look into one of those Bar-Sto 9mm conversion barrels down the road, since 9mm is a bit cheaper to shoot than .40 and you get a few extra rounds in the mags. Being able to shoot +P ammo without worry might be nice too.
I'll order a few of the MecGar mags too. Do those have the spring near the base plate to pop the mag out, like the OEM mags? That's a nice feature.
What are you guys using for IWB holsters? This is my first centerfire handgun, but I'm thinking something with a bit of forward cant, worn around the 3:30 position or so might be a good option?
I'll be sure to post a range report after I get a chance to shoot it.
My Mecgar 9mm mags don't have the spring, I'm not sure about the .40s. If you remove the magazine safety they'll fall free anyhow.
My recommendation on an inside the waistband holster is this model from Kramer.
Make sure you order the one for the .40 as it is different than the 9.
ETA one really important thing about IWB holsters for the HiPower is to make sure the design keeps the thumb safety engaged. Unlike a 1911 the safety on the HiPower doesn't "click" into place and can easily be wiped off, I wouldn't trust a holster that isn't moulded around an engaged thumb safety. I hope that makes sense, it's easier to show than describe.
Great gun! I love my BHP.40
Great gun! I love my BHP.40
UPDATE: RANGE REPORT
Ok, so I got a chance to shoot the BHP .40 today. Put 150 rounds through it.
- Accurate! Shot it side by side with my buddy's XD9 compact, and I shot noticeably better with the Browning.
- Good trigger
- Points perfectly, feels great
- Out of the 150 rounds, had about 6 misfeeds (see below)
- Not sold on the .40, but I'll shoot it for a while until I decide to get a 9mm conversion barrel or a new top end and ejector.
I forgot to save the boxes of exactly what I shot (had to buy the ammo at the range), but it was this:
165 gr Remington FMJ (flat nose)
165 gr Speer Lawman FMJ (flat nose)
155 gr Federal hollowpoints
The gun experienced the same type of failure with both the hollowpoints and the flat nose FMJ. The slide would strip the round about 1/4 of the way out of the magazine, and the edge of the bullet (be it the corner of the flat nose on the FMJ or the edge of the hollowpoint) would jam into the feedramp and prevent the round from fully chambering. Simply racking the slide to the rear and releasing it would strip the round the rest of the way out of the mag and into the chamber. There were no problems with extraction or ejection.
So I'm going to order some Mec-Gar mags and see if the pistol functions any differently. I've also ordered a new 20 lb recoil spring from Wolff. Hopefully the combination of these two things will clear up the issue. Polishing the feed ramp might help too, but I'll wait to see if the new mags and recoil spring fix the problem.
*edited for spelling*
Let us know how it turns out, hopefully the new recoil spring and magazine(s) will fix it. If it doesn't I would recommend either a replacement 9mm Barsto barrel OR selling the pistol and buying another as opposed to trying to swap out the top end. In the long run I doubt a new upper would be cost effective and there are only so many .40s out there...
Sounds like a great deal. When I bought my BDM there was a .40 S&W BHP right next to it on the shelf and they wanted just over $800 for it.
Ok, so I put another 150 rounds through the Browning a few days ago. Ammo used was:
100 rounds Speer Lawman 165 gr FMJ
50 rounds Federal Classic 180 gr JHP (this stuff is way less snappy than the Speer stuff for some reason)
The magazines used were a new factory mag (~$35 from CDNN, cheapest place I've seen), a new Mec-Gar mag, and the factory mag that came with the pistol. I *think* the new recoil spring has fixed the problem with the misfeeds, but the problem now seemed to be that the slide was randomly locking back in the middle of a magazine.
I'm pretty sure this is due to my grip. I shoot thumbs forward, with my firing hand (right hand) thumb riding the safety and my support hand (left hand) thumb along the side of the frame, right under the slide release. I think my support hand was shifting under recoil and causing the slide release to engage. I shot a couple magazines with one hand only and had no issues.
Next time out I'm going to try holding my support hand a little lower, and keep my thumb along the top of the trigger guard. I want to stick with the thumbs forward grip though, since thumb over thumb grip just feels weird to me now...
Anybody else shoot thumbs forward with a Hi Power and have this issue?
Alright, put another 90 rounds through the BHP last weekend. Ammo used was some cheap 165 gr. FMJ reloads and 180 gr. FMJ WWB. Mags used were the factory mag that came with the pistol, a new factory mag, and a Mec Gar. The pistol ran flawlessly this time around.
Keeping my left thumb along the side of the trigger guard seems to allow you to keep a high grip while avoiding hitting the slide release under recoil. I need to put some more hollow points through the gun to make sure it feeds those OK, but I'm really happy with the it now that I've seemed to have worked out the issues.
Next step is to get that magazine disconnect taken out!
Took some better pictures. The new factory mags apparently come with a rubber Pachmeyer baseplate pad... I think I'm gonna pick up a pack of these, I kind of like them...
To ME, the .40 Browning Hi-Power IS "The Sex Pistol".
I want one.
Damn nice firearm you have there, Sir.
sights are bitchin'.
Got 'em on my Beretta 1201FPG3 M&P 12-ga. shotgun.
The ancient pic: