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CZ 75 compact questions
10/20/2011 12:42:17 AM
Hey guys, I think I'm finally about to take the plunge into the CZ world. I've been looking for a 9mm that suited me for quite a while.
Anyway, I was at a local GS today and was looking at some 75 compacts, and 75 SP01 compacts too.
They seem to fit me well, but I had to do some research before putting up the cash.
First off, I'm not real excited about the decocker, and would rather have a safety for cocked and locked carry.
1. Do the SP01 compacts come in a version with a safety instead of a decocker?
(not sure if I would install a light, but I like the square muzzle, and the added weight out front)
***EDIT*** I just found the thread that talks about the SP02, but would still like your input***EDIT***
2. Is there a way to tell if a 75 compact has a steel or an alloy frame? (serial number maybe) (seems some are steel some are alloy?)
3. Compared to the fullsized CZ75 how is the reliability and durability of the compact models? (should I just get a fullsize?)
(I sure like the size of the compacts for carry)
Thanks in advance for any info, I just wanted a chance to pick your brains before I do this.
Anyway, I was at a local GS today and was looking at some 75 compacts, and 75 SP01 compacts too.
They seem to fit me well, but I had to do some research before putting up the cash.
First off, I'm not real excited about the decocker, and would rather have a safety for cocked and locked carry.
1. Do the SP01 compacts come in a version with a safety instead of a decocker?
(not sure if I would install a light, but I like the square muzzle, and the added weight out front)
***EDIT*** I just found the thread that talks about the SP02, but would still like your input***EDIT***
2. Is there a way to tell if a 75 compact has a steel or an alloy frame? (serial number maybe) (seems some are steel some are alloy?)
3. Compared to the fullsized CZ75 how is the reliability and durability of the compact models? (should I just get a fullsize?)
(I sure like the size of the compacts for carry)
Thanks in advance for any info, I just wanted a chance to pick your brains before I do this.
10/20/2011 2:11:05 AM
I had the full-size model of the 75b, the safety model. I liked everything about it except for the manual safety so I sold it. I'm not a manual safety kind of guy and cocked and locked drives me nuts.
I have never owned a 1911 so I can understand if you have that background and train that way and I can respect that.
I personally would love to own a decocker model...and a compact model would be sweet too.
I found it a little heavy for cch and switched to an XD but now I mainly carry my SIG 220 so go figure. I bet with a good belt and holster it would carry great.
I can't help you on the technical questions but enjoy your new gun!
I have never owned a 1911 so I can understand if you have that background and train that way and I can respect that.
I personally would love to own a decocker model...and a compact model would be sweet too.
I found it a little heavy for cch and switched to an XD but now I mainly carry my SIG 220 so go figure. I bet with a good belt and holster it would carry great.
I can't help you on the technical questions but enjoy your new gun!
10/20/2011 3:03:48 AM
Yup, you hit the nail on the head. I'm used to a 1911, so cocked and locked is already ingrained into my psyche.
I'm just not sure about three different trigger pulls to learn on one gun. Single action, double action, and then the de-cocked/half-cock pull too.
(on the decocker models)
I might end up going with the decocker SP01 compact though, because it seems the SP02 (manual safety) is almost impossible to find on this side of the pond.
Thanks for the input bro.
I'm just not sure about three different trigger pulls to learn on one gun. Single action, double action, and then the de-cocked/half-cock pull too.
(on the decocker models)
I might end up going with the decocker SP01 compact though, because it seems the SP02 (manual safety) is almost impossible to find on this side of the pond.
Thanks for the input bro.
10/20/2011 4:37:41 AM
I know you probably know this but do NOT even look at the P07. Until they get the major bugs fixed that's a turd with a cz logo.
I like the looks of the p01.
Sp01 looks good too.
I like the looks of the p01.
Sp01 looks good too.
10/20/2011 8:40:03 AM
If you prefer the safety equipped models (I do too), and you're not sure that you'd want the light, I'd go with a standard 75B Compact over a P-01. There technically is no "SP-01 Compact". The P-01 is what you're referring to.
Also, a 75B Compact will have a steel frame. A P-01 has an aluminum alloy frame. An SP-01 (full size) has a steel frame.
I used to carry my 75B Compact. I carry a P7 now, but occasionally I think about going back to the 75B Compact.
ETA: In my experience, my Compact has been very reliable, however I don't have nearly as many rounds through mine as I do through my full size variants.
Also, a 75B Compact will have a steel frame. A P-01 has an aluminum alloy frame. An SP-01 (full size) has a steel frame.
I used to carry my 75B Compact. I carry a P7 now, but occasionally I think about going back to the 75B Compact.
ETA: In my experience, my Compact has been very reliable, however I don't have nearly as many rounds through mine as I do through my full size variants.
10/20/2011 10:08:25 AM
never seen a reliability issue with the compacts.
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10/20/2011 5:53:08 PM
I've had a few full sized 75B's and I still have my two compacts. Never had any reliability issues with the 9mm compact. Unless you have to have the light rail the 75B compact is the way to go for me. If you are a 1911 guy like me the safety is the way to go. I can't remember when I've pulled the double action pull firing the 75B. Just a note, the CZ decockers do decock the hammer to half cock, but I still prefer cocked and locked. Here are my two compacts together. I just like the thinner frame better. Good luck with your decision. David
10/20/2011 11:39:46 PM
Those are 2 CZs you don't see everyday....
10/20/2011 11:51:51 PM
Originally Posted By pivoproseem:
Those are 2 CZs you don't see everyday....
Those are 2 CZs you don't see everyday....
Yep, especially that 85 Compact. I never knew they made such a model.
10/21/2011 12:25:22 AM
Well guys, I went back to get the P01 and it was gone. The only others they had were all 75d? models (decocker) And no fullsize 75s.
They did have a real nice 97 with a thumb saftey though. ( I really want a 9mm though, it's getting expensive to feed my .45s)
Oh well. I think I need more time to think about all I've learned before deciding which way to go.
Thanks to everyone for the input, I now know even more about CZ pistols in general. (which still isn't all that much
)
They did have a real nice 97 with a thumb saftey though. ( I really want a 9mm though, it's getting expensive to feed my .45s)
Oh well. I think I need more time to think about all I've learned before deciding which way to go.
Thanks to everyone for the input, I now know even more about CZ pistols in general. (which still isn't all that much
)10/21/2011 4:12:00 AM
I owned a CZ-75 Compact in 9mm. Great gun, loved it but traded it in after I picked up a CZ P07 Duty. I have been thinking about getting another. If you do get one, make sure it is NOT a P01 or a D model with decocker. CZs are supposed to be run condition 1 locked and cocked with safety on. The DA pull on CZs just plain sucks, they have a nice SA trigger once it wears in after about 500 rounds. A further thing is to stay away from the .40 S&W versions, they have feed problems (I know this from personal experience), stay with the original design caliber of 9mm. I also can recommend the 2075 RAMI P in polymer and the CZ P07 Duty, great guns, fast accurate and reliable.
