PM9 magazines loading
I just got my first Kahr pistol, a brand new PM9. I was trying out loading the magazines and noticed something seems unusual (compared to other pistols magazines I have). When I loaded more than a couple of rounds into the mags (tried on both the 6 shots and 7 shots mags), the lower rounds (other than the top round) in the mag started to change it's angle in relation to the top round which is slanted as the lips of the mag.
Here's what it looks like when I have only 2 rounds in the mag, the 2 rounds are parallel to each others::
Here's what it looks like when I have more than 3 rounds (6 rounds in this picture) loaded, the 2nd round and lower are no longer parallel to the top round:
This is what a fully loaded Sig P229 mag in comparison, all rounds are parallel to each others:
When I loaded the mag into the PM9 and cycled through all of the rounds, initially it didn't feed well, I got a few rounds stuck and wouldn't go into the chamber. After going through several mags worth, it seemed to feed OK, although I wouldn't say it's as smooths as my P229 and P226. I haven't tried actual shooting it yet. I though I would consult the collective wisdom here first before I go to the range.
By looking at the followers, I see the design of the Kahrs' are different from the Sig. The Sig follower has a straight grove on the top, but the Kahr follower has a portion of the top grove slanted. See the pictures below:
Not sure if this is the reason for the unusual position of the rounds in Kahr, or about the reason to have such a follower design. Thanks!
I understand that happens to a lot single column magazines, any brand.
This is normal for the Kahr, and many other single stack guns.
Ah, so it has to do with single stack vs. double stack mags... I had never owned a single stack pistol. So this is good to go to the range I guess. Thanks for the replies.
All of my PM9 mags do that it's normal. Don't worry about it. I have never had a problem with any of them.
I think this is why rounds get hung up on the feedramp when you slingshot it.
Don't get discouraged when the pistol malfunctions for the first couple of hundred rounds. Kahrs are tight from the factory. They smooth out and I can slingshot mine now that is broken in. Also don't limp wrist it.
I love my pm9. I have no trouble hitting a 12 inch steel plate at 60 yards with it.
You said you cycled the rounds, did you hand cycle them? If so then that's a poor test of seeing if the rounds feed reliably. For any gun (and in particular the shorter ones like the PM9) there is no way you can rack the slide fast enough and with enough inertia to duplicate the movement when it fires.
Take it to the range, shoot it, and enjoy it. If it starts hanging up after the 200 round break in then send it back to Kahr.
In my original post, when I mentioned cycled it, what I did was hand cycled. It seems to be OK after a few mag worth of trying. And indeed the Kahrs were tight. When I first tried to hand cycle the slide in the gun shop, I almost couldn't move it. Anyway, I am not particularly worry now knowing that's the way most single stack mag is. I do plan to go down to a range and shoot it but haven't got time to do it yet though. Thanks!
Very interesting drawing, showing exactly the way the ammo sits in the mag... Thanks!
Single stack 1911 mags do it as well.
It's more noticeable on the Kahr PM9 because it's so small.