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 Anyone Else Unable To Love The N Frame?
thedoctors308  [Team Member]
4/23/2010 8:54:47 AM
First, I bought a LNIB S&W Model 28-2 (.357 Magnum) with a 6" barrel
Baughman quick draw front sight, target hammer, target trigger, target grips.
Shot it a bunch, just couldn't bring myself to love it, sold it off.

Recently, I bought a Like New S&W Model 25-2 (.45 ACP) with a 6" barrel
Target front sight, target hammer, target trigger, target grips.
Been shooting it a bit, and I feel myself falling "out of love" with it again.

I'm really thinking about selling it off too.
Going to have to shoot it quite a bit more before I make up my mind.
I know they are supposed to be the "it" guns of the S&W line, but I just can't fall in love with them like everyone else has.
Call my silly, but my love affair is with 4" K Frames.
Ameshawki  [Member]
4/23/2010 9:44:56 AM
I'll agree with you on that. Owned one N frame and I don't know how many K's. The K frame just works for me. N's are just a load.
Sockrotter  [Team Member]
4/23/2010 9:47:02 AM
I like my .38-44 Outdoorsmans, 1917's, .41 Mag, and .45 Colt.
A few years ago, I sold off all four of the .357's; I much prefer the L and K frames in .357 Mag.
wildearp  [Team Member]
4/23/2010 10:58:03 AM
I have a 625-2 five inch model. It doesn't get any better in a revolver.

I also have a 67, 29, and 686.
22LR  [Member]
4/23/2010 11:54:06 AM
if you dont like them why keep buying them?

foxherb53  [Team Member]
4/23/2010 12:13:03 PM
Try a 329PD in 45 ACP...
thedoctors308  [Team Member]
4/23/2010 2:56:10 PM
Originally Posted By 22LR:
if you dont like them why keep buying them?


Because I'm a sucker for old S&W revolvers.
I got good deals on both, both were in amazing shape, and both had all the Ts, as well as P&R.
Obviously the Model 28 had a baughman front sight, and the Model 25 wasn't recessed, as it takes moon clips, but you get the idea.

Originally Posted By Ameshawki:
I'll agree with you on that. Owned one N frame and I don't know how many K's. The K frame just works for me. N's are just a load.


That seems to be my problem - N frames are just a lot of gun.
I always tend to gravitate towards midsize handguns - I prefer my G23 to my G22.
ss_doomtrooper  [Member]
4/23/2010 4:15:03 PM
Originally Posted By thedoctors308:
First, I bought a LNIB S&W Model 28-2 (.357 Magnum) with a 6" barrel
Baughman quick draw front sight, target hammer, target trigger, target grips.
Shot it a bunch, just couldn't bring myself to love it, sold it off.

Recently, I bought a Like New S&W Model 25-2 (.45 ACP) with a 6" barrel
Target front sight, target hammer, target trigger, target grips.
Been shooting it a bit, and I feel myself falling "out of love" with it again.

I'm really thinking about selling it off too.
Going to have to shoot it quite a bit more before I make up my mind.
I know they are supposed to be the "it" guns of the S&W line, but I just can't fall in love with them like everyone else has.
Call my silly, but my love affair is with 4" K Frames.


Ever split the difference between the K and N and try any L frames? The 686 is kick ass.
ikor  [Team Member]
4/23/2010 6:10:09 PM
N frame guy here...love em.
78CJ5  [Member]
4/23/2010 7:19:06 PM
N frame is to big for my hand, K fame and J frame are much better.
vanilla_gorilla  [Team Member]
4/23/2010 7:23:07 PM
Must be out your mind, the N frame is the best frame Smith has ever made
thedoctors308  [Team Member]
4/23/2010 10:10:37 PM
Originally Posted By vanilla_gorilla:
Must be out your mind, the N frame is the best frame Smith has ever made


I'm not going to abandon it lightly - just ordered half a case of .45ACP and some more moon clips.
Maybe what I really need is a Model 27 with 5" barrel.
vanilla_gorilla  [Team Member]
4/23/2010 10:44:55 PM
You decide to let that 25 go, you let me know. I've got some moon clips of .45 ACP and no guns to shoot them through.
Stinson342  [Team Member]
4/23/2010 11:10:39 PM
They are awesome works of art, but just too dang big for my hands.
vanilla_gorilla  [Team Member]
4/23/2010 11:36:05 PM

Originally Posted By Stinson342:
They are awesome works of art, but just too dang big for my hands.


Bah!

















bigdb1  [Team Member]
4/23/2010 11:36:57 PM
N - L - K - J... I like 'em all.
Rudison  [Team Member]
4/23/2010 11:54:16 PM
S&W 696 for the (partial) Win.
5 shot 44 spec.
Total winner if it were came with a 4" barrel.
Thorgrim  [Member]
4/24/2010 12:05:30 AM
Dude, you are from some kind of alien planet or something.

N-Frames kick so much ass. The Model 27s and 28s rule the world of .357 revolvers!
Southrnshooter  [Member]
4/24/2010 12:26:36 AM
I had a nickel 25-5 with the 8 3/8th barrel that I sold a few years back when someone offered me $250 more than I paid for it. Wish I would have kept it now. It was unique.
Hawgleg44  [Team Member]
4/24/2010 12:30:49 AM
I have huge hands, but I still find the N-frame large for me. I agree that the K-frame is the best out of everything S&W has ever made.

I never really saw the attraction to an N-frame .357 mag. To me, it's just seemed unnecessary. IMO, K or maybe L is all you need for that chambering.

I have found that different grips can make a huge difference with the N's. I have a .44spl TRS, and the grips that came on that make it better for me.

IMO, ditch the M28, but keep your M25. If the caliber starts with a "4", then the N-frame is a good gun.

Just my opinion.
Southrnshooter  [Member]
4/24/2010 12:49:01 AM
Originally Posted By Hawgleg44:
I have huge hands, but I still find the N-frame large for me. I agree that the K-frame is the best out of everything S&W has ever made.

I never really saw the attraction to an N-frame .357 mag. To me, it's just seemed unnecessary. IMO, K or maybe L is all you need for that chambering.

I have found that different grips can make a huge difference with the N's. I have a .44spl TRS, and the grips that came on that make it better for me.

IMO, ditch the M28, but keep your M25. If the caliber starts with a "4", then the N-frame is a good gun.

Just my opinion.


I still have a Model 28 and my attraction to it is the history of the piece. I have both sets of grip that came with mine. It is about 40 years old and just screams the beginning of the magnum calibers. I still have an advertisement where S&W recommended this model and caliber for men of more than ordinary stature. Just kinda neat.
NVGdude  [Member]
4/24/2010 12:54:12 AM
I like the N frame, but I think it reaches it's pinnacle in the .41 magnum chambering. Never could get into the .357 N frames, and it's a bit light in .44 mag.
rollin_hot  [Team Member]
4/24/2010 12:58:43 AM
I hate all of mine....

dragongoddess  [Team Member]
4/24/2010 12:01:22 PM
Love my 25-2. It's a joy to shoot and frankly I'm much more accurate with it than my semi auto 45's. Looking for another one in fact.
45FMJoe  [Team Member]
4/24/2010 12:12:57 PM

Originally Posted By thedoctors308:
Originally Posted By vanilla_gorilla:
Must be out your mind, the N frame is the best frame Smith has ever made


I'm not going to abandon it lightly - just ordered half a case of .45ACP and some more moon clips.
Maybe what I really need is a Model 27 with 5" barrel.

Did somebody say 5" Model 27?


vanilla_gorilla  [Team Member]
4/24/2010 12:36:18 PM

Originally Posted By 45FMJoe:

Originally Posted By thedoctors308:
Originally Posted By vanilla_gorilla:
Must be out your mind, the N frame is the best frame Smith has ever made


I'm not going to abandon it lightly - just ordered half a case of .45ACP and some more moon clips.
Maybe what I really need is a Model 27 with 5" barrel.

Did somebody say 5" Model 27?

http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad264/45fmjoe/Firearms/27two.jpg


N00b!

45FMJoe  [Team Member]
4/24/2010 12:42:07 PM

Originally Posted By vanilla_gorilla:

Originally Posted By 45FMJoe:

Originally Posted By thedoctors308:
Originally Posted By vanilla_gorilla:
Must be out your mind, the N frame is the best frame Smith has ever made


I'm not going to abandon it lightly - just ordered half a case of .45ACP and some more moon clips.
Maybe what I really need is a Model 27 with 5" barrel.

Did somebody say 5" Model 27?

http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad264/45fmjoe/Firearms/27two.jpg


N00b!

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b53/vanilla_gorilla911/gunpics007.jpg


TZLVredmist  [Team Member]
4/24/2010 2:28:09 PM
I would be a lesser person without my .41 MAG!!

Winning IHMSA comps for the past two years!!


vanilla_gorilla  [Team Member]
4/24/2010 2:42:33 PM

Originally Posted By TZLVredmist:
I would be a lesser person without my .41 MAG!!

Winning IHMSA comps for the past two years!!


http://myweb.cableone.net/rnjacobson/41mag.jpg


I envy you. I've been wanting to run my 29 in IHMSA, but there's none I can find around here.
M1Riflenut  [Member]
4/24/2010 2:49:33 PM
At 6'2", 37" sleeve and hands big enough to easily palm a basketball I find the N frame fits me well. I also have owned K and L's and like them too but the N frame with proper grips works for me. I don't like the "classic" stock grips at all,I use the finger groove types in either rubber or wood.
I've even gone one step beyond the N and have an X frame on layaway...........overkill......
thedoctors308  [Team Member]
4/24/2010 4:49:36 PM
Originally Posted By Stinson342:
They are awesome works of art, but just too dang big for my hands.


They are indeed works of art.
Love the ".45 Cal Model 1955" on the barrel.
jnielsen  [Member]
4/25/2010 9:54:49 AM
I seriously think you need to try a 4 inch N.

29,624, 629,629 mountain gun,57 or 657.

The 3.5 inch 27 is a grail gun if you can find and afford one and the 28 in four inch is nice also.

The four inch N frame is the shit!

I also like the 5 inch classics, 29,29DX,629,629DX

The Six inch plus barrels don't do it for me either.
Rudison  [Team Member]
4/25/2010 1:16:07 PM
Looks like the 627 8 times is going to be a nagging problem.
I have a couple to sell that never see use so funding is no problem, but can I get used to the 8-shooter idea?
nitekrawler  [Member]
4/25/2010 6:43:51 PM
I have a 686 and a model 29. I also have a model 19. I love them all. Yes I know the 19 is a k frame.
danc46  [Team Member]
4/25/2010 7:45:39 PM
If you don't like an N frame, you don't have the right grips on one. Pachmayr Grippers make a huge improvement over the factory target stocks on my Model 27. An accurate N frame is hard to beat. I've used my 27 for everything from IHMSA matches, to deer hunting, to scaring off a wannabe car jacker.
wildearp  [Team Member]
4/26/2010 11:39:25 AM
Originally Posted By danc46:
If you don't like an N frame, you don't have the right grips on one. Pachmayr Grippers make a huge improvement over the factory target stocks on my Model 27. An accurate N frame is hard to beat. I've used my 27 for everything from IHMSA matches, to deer hunting, to scaring off a wannabe car jacker.


+1 I was just the opposite. The grippers are too narrow and the gun twisted in my hand a bit. I went with the Pachmayer presentation grips to fix this problem.
machinisttx  [Team Member]
4/26/2010 4:09:15 PM
Originally Posted By vanilla_gorilla:
Must be out your mind, the N frame is the best frame Smith has ever made


For some things, yes. Others, not so much. I like my N frames, but I'd very likely take a K or L(bleh) if TSHTF and I could only have one.
Warhawk  [Team Member]
4/26/2010 5:07:10 PM
Originally Posted By jnielsen:
I seriously think you need to try a 4 inch N.

29,624, 629,629 mountain gun,57 or 657.

The 3.5 inch 27 is a grail gun if you can find and afford one and the 28 in four inch is nice also.

The four inch N frame is the shit!

I also like the 5 inch classics, 29,29DX,629,629DX

The Six inch plus barrels don't do it for me either.


This one is probably my favorite of all my N frames... Absolutely the cleanest, tightest, and best fitted S&W I've ever owned.



JohnRippert  [Team Member]
4/26/2010 9:09:54 PM


K-frames, baby.
DrLee  [Member]
4/30/2010 10:30:35 PM
I have small hands and love k-frames. But I have a 629 5" classic 44 Mag. I wouldn't want anything smaller or lighter in ..44Mag.
The Factory Hogue grips work really well for me.

Dr.
Spook410  [Team Member]
5/2/2010 3:22:34 PM
My 1989 model in 357 is the most accurate centerfire I own. It's fun for that. However, it still feels like a hand cannon and weighs way too much to carry in the woods.. I like 4" K frames.
Rabon  [Team Member]
5/2/2010 9:18:08 PM
Never been able to warm up to a D/A Revolver in general.
Mayimbe  [Team Member]
5/3/2010 8:39:59 AM
I have a few different sizes of S&W frames and there are aspects I like about each. My only N Frame is a 625 with Jerry Michuleck grips, and I absolutey love it, a dream to shoot. My grandfather's service weapon model 10 .38spl that I own is also a dream to shoot, a butter smooth trigger from the 1950's. My J Frame 642 is not so fun to shoot; long super heavy trigger. But then again it has always been a back up gun, so if it ain't perfect, its understandable.
SrBenelli  [Team Member]
5/4/2010 9:07:47 AM
If I'm going to be CCW'ing it for any legnth of time...it's "K frame" for the win....





However, "Buford" sleeps on the nightstand beside the bed:

scotchymcdrinkerbean  [Team Member]
5/4/2010 12:50:12 PM
Originally Posted By ikor:
N frame guy here...love em.


Yep. TD308 is a blasphemer!!
scotchymcdrinkerbean  [Team Member]
5/4/2010 12:51:29 PM
Originally Posted By vanilla_gorilla:
You decide to let that 25 go, you let me know. I've got some moon clips of .45 ACP and no guns to shoot them through.


Well, I just happen to have a Colt 1917 and a pair of 25-2s lying around if you feel the need to get rid of those moon clips................
Bushman_269  [Team Member]
5/4/2010 1:35:34 PM
I love all S&W frame sizes but the N frames are my absolute favorite. I have pretty small hands and the factory stocks do not fit me well, going to the Hogue grips with the open backstrap makes the N frames much more comfortable for me.
ThunderStick  [Team Member]
5/5/2010 2:55:28 AM

The N frame with "coke" grips is the best by far. I do not like any other grip on an N frame. The problem is, excellent condition coke grips sell for $350+

K frames with the crimson trace LG306 laser grip are awesome, by the way.

Combat_Diver  [Team Member]
5/5/2010 6:42:28 AM
Love J,K,N & X frames, however never seemed to warm up to the L frame.

Only have two N frames at the moment and giving my oldest son my M29-2 6.5", so I'll be looking for another 6" M57/657 as a replacement. My other is a 4" M58. I shoot lots of .41 and never been a fan of the .44 Mag. Will be looking for another 3" HB, RB K frame also.

CD
thedoctors308  [Team Member]
5/5/2010 10:21:40 AM
Originally Posted By scotchymcdrinkerbean:
Originally Posted By ikor:
N frame guy here...love em.


Yep. TD308 is a blasphemer!!


I can't help it that I think a Model 10 Heavy Barrel with magna stocks & tyler t-grip is the perfect revolver!
ThunderStick  [Team Member]
5/8/2010 11:34:12 PM

BTW, the S&W forum has a ton of pics of all sorts of N Frame Smiths. Enjoy!

linky: http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-revolvers-1961-1980/136470-time-show-off-those-n-frames.html

linky 2: http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-revolvers-1961-1980/121462-ultimate-model-27-thread.html