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Count me in the DE club.
8/10/2009 9:31:24 PM
Ok let me rattle the boat and say this:
The .44 and .50 DE are toys,to say otherwise is insane,but the .357 looks to be a purposeful hunk of gun and that is what I wound up with~
Very low serial # (four digits!) DE,.357 cal works like a top and is a pussycat to shoot.
I will carry it in the woods
The .44 and .50 DE are toys,to say otherwise is insane,but the .357 looks to be a purposeful hunk of gun and that is what I wound up with~
Very low serial # (four digits!) DE,.357 cal works like a top and is a pussycat to shoot.
I will carry it in the woods
8/11/2009 12:05:02 AM
By "toys" I take it you mean that the .44 and .50 don't have any purposeful use. But you say the .357 is useful? I don't get it. They all weigh the same, so if you're going to carry a hunk of iron like the DE into the woods, what difference does the caliber have? All the DE's are toys, in that they're not really very practical for a carry gun or as a hunting gun (I'd use a big bore revolvers for that.)
As for ease of shooting, I can't imagine the .44 is that much more difficult to shoot than the .357 in such a massive gun (although I haven't shot the DE .357, I have shot the .44 and .50 and they're not bad at all for recoil).
Anyway.. welcome to the club.
As for ease of shooting, I can't imagine the .44 is that much more difficult to shoot than the .357 in such a massive gun (although I haven't shot the DE .357, I have shot the .44 and .50 and they're not bad at all for recoil).
Anyway.. welcome to the club.
8/11/2009 12:23:40 AM
What I mean is the .44 and .50 have the recoil to deal with,the .357 gives you nine shots of full power ammo in a very controllable package-hence it IS useful to some extent.
It is a heavy thing.but I can stick it down my pants and be happy with it (a kydex inside the pants holster is going to be had for it soon) so you COULD CCW the .357 within reason (you live in a rural state and want the CCW more for fur and fangs then two legged touble) the .44 and .50 are just too much for this job since you need full-tilt ammo to get the gun to work,ether would be grand for hunting,though.
As a woods gun it is nice too,heavy,but it's worth it for the firepower it brings.
In short-I like it
It is a heavy thing.but I can stick it down my pants and be happy with it (a kydex inside the pants holster is going to be had for it soon) so you COULD CCW the .357 within reason (you live in a rural state and want the CCW more for fur and fangs then two legged touble) the .44 and .50 are just too much for this job since you need full-tilt ammo to get the gun to work,ether would be grand for hunting,though.
As a woods gun it is nice too,heavy,but it's worth it for the firepower it brings.
In short-I like it
8/11/2009 12:35:57 AM
Originally Posted By Kronos2720:
What I mean is the .44 and .50 have the recoil to deal with,the .357 gives you nine shots of full power ammo in a very controllable package-hence it IS useful to some extent.
It is a heavy thing.but I can stick it down my pants and be happy with it (a kydex inside the pants holster is going to be had for it soon) so you COULD CCW the .357 within reason (you live in a rural state and want the CCW more for fur and fangs then two legged touble) the .44 and .50 are just too much for this job since you need full-tilt ammo to get the gun to work,ether would be grand for hunting,though.
As a woods gun it is nice too,heavy,but it's worth it for the firepower it brings.
In short-I like it
What I mean is the .44 and .50 have the recoil to deal with,the .357 gives you nine shots of full power ammo in a very controllable package-hence it IS useful to some extent.
It is a heavy thing.but I can stick it down my pants and be happy with it (a kydex inside the pants holster is going to be had for it soon) so you COULD CCW the .357 within reason (you live in a rural state and want the CCW more for fur and fangs then two legged touble) the .44 and .50 are just too much for this job since you need full-tilt ammo to get the gun to work,ether would be grand for hunting,though.
As a woods gun it is nice too,heavy,but it's worth it for the firepower it brings.
In short-I like it
Welcome to the fam. It was funny I just wrote an posting on the old vs new and the cycling issues I had with the .357 which led me to get rid of it and get a newer one. I opted for the .44 mag XIX in Nickel and I too am puzzled by your comment. All the DEs are toys... kinda a status thing to some I guess but I def like the .44 mag over the older .357 I had. Good luck with yours and trust me you will love shooting it, the weight of the frame makes the .357 feel like a 9MM+P so you wont tire shooting it and your groups will tighten up eventually.
8/11/2009 7:54:09 AM
That's what's great about the United States of America..... well at least those states that haven't gone commie like NY, IL, and CA. We can own large powerful semi-auto handguns like the DE for no other reason that they're cool. And we can pleasantly debate about which caliber is the best. God save this country from the Democrats! Because if they have it their way, nobody will have any handguns of any caliber or action.
8/11/2009 9:13:31 AM
I'm glad you got yourself a DE. I wanted one for so long until I finally bought one 2 or 3 months ago.
I must say I do not feel the same in the fact that the DE's are just toys. Mine has been very reliable with every load i've put in it including the lighter loads. It may be too large to comfortably CCW all year round, but to me it's still very functional. It has the same capacity as a full size 1911. It's extremely powerful and yet very easy to shoot(.44) even in rapid fire. With careful load selection you don't have to worry about over-penetration in a self-defense shooting. I wouldn't hesitate to use mine to defend myself, my family, or anyone else in desperate need of help.
Something that's always kind of hit me sideways is how lots complain about how weak pistol calibers are, but when you mention 10mm and .44 mag it's oh...those are too much
. Also, i've heard/read about how the magnums are too loud for defensive use, but most of those same people recommend using a shotgun or rifle instead . Now maybe I need to pop a few rounds again, but my shotgun seems a heck of alot louder than my .44.
Congrats on your purchase
I must say I do not feel the same in the fact that the DE's are just toys. Mine has been very reliable with every load i've put in it including the lighter loads. It may be too large to comfortably CCW all year round, but to me it's still very functional. It has the same capacity as a full size 1911. It's extremely powerful and yet very easy to shoot(.44) even in rapid fire. With careful load selection you don't have to worry about over-penetration in a self-defense shooting. I wouldn't hesitate to use mine to defend myself, my family, or anyone else in desperate need of help.
Something that's always kind of hit me sideways is how lots complain about how weak pistol calibers are, but when you mention 10mm and .44 mag it's oh...those are too much
. Also, i've heard/read about how the magnums are too loud for defensive use, but most of those same people recommend using a shotgun or rifle instead . Now maybe I need to pop a few rounds again, but my shotgun seems a heck of alot louder than my .44.
Congrats on your purchase
8/12/2009 8:26:57 PM
Originally Posted By KCabbage:
I'm glad you got yourself a DE. I wanted one for so long until I finally bought one 2 or 3 months ago.
I must say I do not feel the same in the fact that the DE's are just toys. Mine has been very reliable with every load i've put in it including the lighter loads. It may be too large to comfortably CCW all year round, but to me it's still very functional. It has the same capacity as a full size 1911. It's extremely powerful and yet very easy to shoot(.44) even in rapid fire. With careful load selection you don't have to worry about over-penetration in a self-defense shooting. I wouldn't hesitate to use mine to defend myself, my family, or anyone else in desperate need of help.
Something that's always kind of hit me sideways is how lots complain about how weak pistol calibers are, but when you mention 10mm and .44 mag it's oh those are too much Also, i've heard/read about how the magnums are too loud for defensive use, but most of those same people recommend using a shotgun or rifle instead Now maybe I need to pop a few rounds again, but my shotgun seems a heck of alot louder than my .44.
Congrats on your purchase
I'm glad you got yourself a DE. I wanted one for so long until I finally bought one 2 or 3 months ago.
I must say I do not feel the same in the fact that the DE's are just toys. Mine has been very reliable with every load i've put in it including the lighter loads. It may be too large to comfortably CCW all year round, but to me it's still very functional. It has the same capacity as a full size 1911. It's extremely powerful and yet very easy to shoot(.44) even in rapid fire. With careful load selection you don't have to worry about over-penetration in a self-defense shooting. I wouldn't hesitate to use mine to defend myself, my family, or anyone else in desperate need of help.
Something that's always kind of hit me sideways is how lots complain about how weak pistol calibers are, but when you mention 10mm and .44 mag it's oh those are too much
Also, i've heard/read about how the magnums are too loud for defensive use, but most of those same people recommend using a shotgun or rifle instead Now maybe I need to pop a few rounds again, but my shotgun seems a heck of alot louder than my .44.
Congrats on your purchase
LOL Amen. I never understood the debate as well between cals. 9mm are "too weak" but a 10mm or .44 is too much... hell a 9mm with +P hollows will do the trick anytime. The person on the other end will be too much in shock to do anything by that time the second or third shot have already been let loose in center mass.
Not to get too far away from the OP topic... again congrats and have fun. The loads are a little tricky mine would eat S&B .357 like candy so thats a good reliable maker for you to shoot and not ungodly expensive. The .50AE was no "toy" but it was a awful thing to shoot more than a few times. It only took me a few clips to put it down and go back to my .45. Sadly the .45 felt like a .38 after shooting the .50AE!! Shoot straight man!
8/12/2009 10:47:28 PM
I've been having a ball with this little beast,it's perfectly fine to carry and I don't see where folk get off on it's so big.
I've also come to the conculsion this is a MkI DE since the serial number is 37** it is one of the first three thousand brought in
I'm thinking I'll CCW it
And Villainous it's eating up American Eagle 158gr JSP's
I've also come to the conculsion this is a MkI DE since the serial number is 37** it is one of the first three thousand brought in
I'm thinking I'll CCW it
And Villainous it's eating up American Eagle 158gr JSP's
8/13/2009 9:15:15 AM
Your right Kronos, that is a Mark I. The Mark I's have your style of safety while the Mark VII's and XIX's has the other.
Have you tried any of the 125gr. semi-jacketed hollow point loads? If I could find one that ran those fireballs reliably I would definately pick one up. I suppose the 125's could be reloaded a bit stronger to work well.
Enjoy those Eagles!
Oh yeah....Kronos, you should definately pick up one of the Hogue rubber grips. Either one are well worth it.
Have you tried any of the 125gr. semi-jacketed hollow point loads? If I could find one that ran those fireballs reliably I would definately pick one up. I suppose the 125's could be reloaded a bit stronger to work well.
Enjoy those Eagles!
Oh yeah....Kronos, you should definately pick up one of the Hogue rubber grips. Either one are well worth it.
8/13/2009 2:36:49 PM
Originally Posted By KCabbage:
Your right Kronos, that is a Mark I. The Mark I's have your style of safety while the Mark VII's and XIX's has the other.
Have you tried any of the 125gr. semi-jacketed hollow point loads? If I could find one that ran those fireballs reliably I would definately pick one up. I suppose the 125's could be reloaded a bit stronger to work well.
Enjoy those Eagles!
Oh yeah....Kronos, you should definately pick up one of the Hogue rubber grips. Either one are well worth it.
Your right Kronos, that is a Mark I. The Mark I's have your style of safety while the Mark VII's and XIX's has the other.
Have you tried any of the 125gr. semi-jacketed hollow point loads? If I could find one that ran those fireballs reliably I would definately pick one up. I suppose the 125's could be reloaded a bit stronger to work well.
Enjoy those Eagles!
Oh yeah....Kronos, you should definately pick up one of the Hogue rubber grips. Either one are well worth it.
If I can find any! my local gunshop has 158gr JSP (American Eagle) 158gr JHP (Blazer-didn't work at all) and some Remington 125gr JSP (I need to try this)
I also have some of the 140gr Leverevolution stuff,el nada didn't work very well at all.
The old grips are rather loose,there's a large gap at the rear,so I stuck a screw in to shim it so I intened to get some Hogues,just not the finger grooved! my hands aren't THAT big!
8/13/2009 8:51:52 PM
Originally Posted By Kronos2720:
If I can find any! my local gunshop has 158gr JSP (American Eagle) 158gr JHP (Blazer-didn't work at all) and some Remington 125gr JSP (I need to try this)
I also have some of the 140gr Leverevolution stuff,el nada didn't work very well at all.
The old grips are rather loose,there's a large gap at the rear,so I stuck a screw in to shim it so I intened to get some Hogues,just not the finger grooved! my hands aren't THAT big!
Originally Posted By KCabbage:
Your right Kronos, that is a Mark I. The Mark I's have your style of safety while the Mark VII's and XIX's has the other.
Have you tried any of the 125gr. semi-jacketed hollow point loads? If I could find one that ran those fireballs reliably I would definately pick one up. I suppose the 125's could be reloaded a bit stronger to work well.
Enjoy those Eagles!
Oh yeah....Kronos, you should definately pick up one of the Hogue rubber grips. Either one are well worth it.
Your right Kronos, that is a Mark I. The Mark I's have your style of safety while the Mark VII's and XIX's has the other.
Have you tried any of the 125gr. semi-jacketed hollow point loads? If I could find one that ran those fireballs reliably I would definately pick one up. I suppose the 125's could be reloaded a bit stronger to work well.
Enjoy those Eagles!
Oh yeah....Kronos, you should definately pick up one of the Hogue rubber grips. Either one are well worth it.
If I can find any! my local gunshop has 158gr JSP (American Eagle) 158gr JHP (Blazer-didn't work at all) and some Remington 125gr JSP (I need to try this)
I also have some of the 140gr Leverevolution stuff,el nada didn't work very well at all.
The old grips are rather loose,there's a large gap at the rear,so I stuck a screw in to shim it so I intened to get some Hogues,just not the finger grooved! my hands aren't THAT big!
The .44 I just got came with the Hogue wrap around and although my hands aren't large either (5'9") the finger grooves add stability to the grip. Now its been a while since I shot my old .357 but I do believe my hand rides up the handle much less than the old .357. I don't have to reset my grip as much as the .357 in the past which wasn't often but it was noticeable.
I am not sure if the 125's will provide enough pressure but its worth a shot. With that said since yours is the Mark I the springs might be broken in enough for them to cycle.
Let us know!
