any of you guys shoot your HKs out to 50 yards and/or beyond?

so i usually just shoot my HK at the 25yard line or closer. i was shooting my AR at the 50 yesterday, and my buddys dad was trying to hit his target with his 1911. went thru 2 or 3 mags. then my buddy said watch how its done, 3 mags later with his springfield XD 45 compact, and no holes in the bullseye. oh and they were shooting from a sandbag on a bench. so i said ill give it a whirl, and stepped up with my P30S in 9mm, from the standing, about half a mag in i had to adjust my POA, and instead of lining up normal on the sights i covered the target with the night sight dot, not the front sight, and got me my bullseye. i was surprised at myself, and made me love my P30 even more than i had. gave me new confidence in it too. had to rag on them a bit saying that i guess it settles the 9mm vs 45 debate


on another note, is this average? were they just less than average shooters?

ETA: thats the first time ive ever shot that distance with a handgun, in the .mil the farthest was like 15 yards.

I've shot my P30L at 100 yards with some good results. Was able to consistently hit a dinner-plate size Shoot-n-See. I was surprised and impressed...

Most people fail to elevate the front sight and adjust for windage.

I am a very bad shot so I tend to not shoot further away than I can spit.
That said I've hit some jugs at 50 with the usp45 somewhat consistently

I have a 10x scope and I'm 2MOA @ 300 yds. with my 9mm Expert

are you serious?

I haven't done it with my HK yet, but banging torso sized steel every time at 150 yds with a g17 wasn't hard. Once you figure out the sight picture you need it's all about proper trigger control. I don't think it's a skill I'll ever need, but it can't hurt.

x2

300 yards with a 9mm??? I think we need video evidence for this...

+1 I seriously need more practice with my USP45T. I wish .45 wasn't so expensive...I'm not horrible but I'm not anywhere near where I want to be.

Think of shooting as a golf swing. Everyone's is different no matter how anal about proper technique some things work and others don't and it is all personal.
Realizing that the little things can make and break how that bullet hits the target and be willing to accept that you can always get better and always be willing to learn.
I realized this and have incorporated it into my shooting and have become better because of it. There is no magical way, just hard work and a willingness to strive for better

I had a USP 45 that was very accurate and very reliable. I sold it. Four years later I fixed my mistake and bought another USP 45, this time with night sites. I need to get a 1911, but my USP will never be sold. It is very accurate and absolutely reliable. Mag prices suck, though.

You elevate the rear sight unless you have one of those tricky S&W front sights and even then you declinate the front sight for extended ranges.

I have shot my USP Elite out to 100 meters but truth be told, at that range .45 acp is pretty well spent so the results were nothing to brag about.

The gun is superbly accurate out to 50 meters.

I always do. But it's not specific to just HK.

Any time I'm at the range, I'll take a couple of mags through whatever I'm shooting at 25 yards. After the warm up, I'll push it out to 75 yards (or whatever the max is). Naturally, accuracy suffers with the range. But I'm still working on it.

Ill shoot at the 14 to 22 inch plates on the 200 yard berm sometimes. I'm not a strong pistol shooter but ill hit them a few times a may with my p30.

I have made hits at 150 and 200 yds on a steel plate with both the Hk P30 and a G19. I have found the Hk to be more accurate than any other polymer working pistol on the market.

At a Vickers class down at Blackwater I think we had 2 of the remaining 4 shooters shooting P30's from the middle of the road which we figured was about 130-140 yds during a walk back drill. Pretty sure ARF's own JW777 was one of them.

I shoot steel with my USP Tac at 100. Yds fairly often.

I took my buddy to the range and he was hitting steel targets on the berm that were roughly 200+ yards out. It was with a HK P7 PSP and took a magazine or two before he was consistent on target, but it is definitely doable.

The longest shot I've made so far is about 135 yards on a 12" steel target. Hit that during a walkback drill in a Vickers handgun class, so there are witnesses. I also used it to knock down 8" steel plates at 100 yards.

In the right hands a Glock will do it too...but having a pistol that exhibits above average mechanical accuracy certainly doesn't hurt:



5 shot group, 25 yards, offhand. 4 out of 5 shots in the same hole. 5th was a called flyer.

I like to shoot milk jugs at 100 with my HK USP Tac 45 & 9MM. For whatever reason I hit more often with the 45 than the 9 at that range.

Just came back from the range with P30

I was resting on a pistol box and at 50 yards I was keeping all rounds in a 10 inch circle. Only a 5in spread horizontally. Also I was hitting a steel deer at 200 no problem.
Standing at 32 yards a 11in plate was no problem every shot.

The more I shoot my HKs the more I realize how accurate I can be with them.

I've shot bowling pins at 50 yards with my P7. Not an easy task. But pretty repeatable once you find your POI. The sights are really not set up for that job. They are too wide, short, and not enough light between the uprights. It's much easier to do that job with a big revolver with tall/thin sights.

Sorry, have no video.

20 years back we used a Russian range in eastern Germany because it was pretty cheap, our club had to pay 50.- DM for the whole weekend (and some bottles, you know...).
It was an open range with just a rampart behind the targets. So we tested if we were able to hit a man sized target at 300m. Some shots into the rampart and with a spotter who announce the POI as we had to elevate the pistol so much that the front sign covers the target, it works.
It doesn't make any sense at all, but fun...

no Hk, but how bout a Ruger LCR little revolver 1.875 inch barrel hitting 100 yard 8 inch plate

youtube link

I believe he is talking about tilting the gun up not physically adjusting the height of the sights relative to the slide.

I took some 75 yard and 100 yard shots with my G23 and most were in the dirt. The guys shooting 9mm had to elevate much less. I doubt it was the short barrel as much as the round. I would like to try it with my USP 45.

my usp45ct will hit mello yello cans at 50 yards using a fence post as a steady fairly easily. im hardly a crack shot, but slow, deliberate, and consistent trigger manipulation gets it done. now, picking up the firing pace sends rounds flying wild all over the county, but hey, im not an operator either.

I have hit targets (bottles, clay pigeons) at 100 yards pretty consistently with my P9S.

you guys make me feel like shit now, thanks

off to the range...

I first read this thread and thought that there was no way I could hit targets out past 50 yards. Well, about 2 weeks ago, I took my MK23 to the range and was able to hit targets at about 100 yards with some consistency. By no means did I have a tight shot group or anything, but they were all torso hits. It took a couple shots to get dialed in, but it's definitely doable. I wonder if the shots were on an actual bad guy, what kind of stopping power you would get at those distances though?

^^You definitely have a great pistol to reach out and touch someone at the longer ranges. Can't wait to pick up a Mk23 myself.

ETA: Great shooting J_W!

Yeah, I love it. It's my favorite handgun! I wasn't too crazy about the price though.

Part in red....don't remind me lol

My USP 45 Tactical does quite well at 50 yards. I would enjoy shooting at 100 yards if my eyes were up to the challenge. I have trouble enough with iron sights on a rifle at 100 yards. My full size USP 40 does well out to 50 yards. I routinely shoot my scoped Browning Buckmark .22LR on the 100 yard line. Long range pistol shooting is a blast if your weapon is set up for it. That's assuming the shooter is up to it as well.

Its less about equipment and more about fundamentals, your shooting fundamentals are better than your buddys.

Ok SO Im now a HK convert. Was on the range yesterday and was shooting my new HK 45 @ 25 yards. I was low and to the left on a silhouette. To compensate I started shooting high nd to the right. That was a short term fix to my problem. So, whats my problem? Shooting high and to the right is a temporary fix. Something is wrong with my technique. Thanks for any input ; )

trigger control. I used/still have this issue.

You're tweaking the gun at the brake. Try more trigger finger and lots of dry fire. Focus on bringing the trigger straight back and not just pressing it.

Maybe some anticipating recoil too.

Hard to tell with out seeing you shoot, could be slapping the trigger, could be a combo of droopy head too little trigger finger. To little trigger finger does seem to be a common thing though with hk pistols.

MK23 supressed
150yds, manhole sized steel
8 out of 12 rounds

dumb f'ing luck, but I did it

Low and left is a classic symptom of anticipation. That's not to say it's impossible for your sights to be off driving the gun to group low and left...but it's fairly rare for me to find someone who is shooting low left and find out that it's actually the pistol that is the problem.

Im not an expert yet but the sites are fixed, so Im going to say it is the anticipation you are talking about. I realize when I first started shooting my weapon there was some of that. I felt however when shooting the day in question that I was doing a good job of trying to overcome that. Maybe its subconscius and I dont even realize it.

Can you give me some ideas on exercises I can do to help eliminate this? Or is it just I need to shoot thousands of rounds to overcome that?

Is it possible of what the other poster said and it is a trigger control issue? The stock trigger is pretty stiff and Im trying to get used to it. When pulling it the weapon is pointing down and left ever so slightly?

Thank you for the input.

If you think you might be anticipating (low and left).
Unload the weapon right then and there, and do some "dry practice".
Perfect sight alignment, perfect stance, press that trigger smoothly to the rear. Do this until any sign of a flinch is gone, and then load up and try again with live ammunition.
Do this as much as needed.

"Dry practice" is something you can do at home too, itll build muscle memory thatll make that trigger feel alot lighter.

+1 on the Dry Firing,

I would recommend short sessions more often (15 min or so). At my hunting cabin we have empty propane containers set at around 90 meters. Using my Duty issued USP Fullsize .40 It is a guarantee hit.


A few weeks ago while out here in Afghanistan with my issued M9 I was consistantly hitting human sillouettes at just over 100 meters. I hadnt fired an actual round out of that weapon system in months.

It is all about the dry fire practice.

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