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 24/7 in 9mm shoots really low
Russ4777  [Team Member]
11/13/2007 4:24:48 PM EST
Anyone else had this problem with the Heine sights? Mine is so bad, I ground about .125" off the front sight to get the groups up to a reasonable distance from the line-of-sight without completely covering the target with the front blade.
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KCMojo  [Life Member]
11/26/2007 10:04:31 PM EST
My Mill Pro same thing.

Heine sights. Not just me, but range officers, an instructor, and others.
joe74  [Member]
12/8/2007 4:47:46 AM EST
My wife bought a MIL Pro 145.Same thing,shoots about 1.5-2 feet low no matter what load you use.She sent it back.
feedmyAR  [Member]
12/9/2007 8:25:44 AM EST
Just about eveyone I know that owns a taurus 24/7 or a Millenium with the Heinie sights has had a similar complaint, and it's pretty aggravating to own a gun that wont shoot reasonably close to the point of aim. I had the same issues with mine. Same sights they use on the 1911's, I havent heard one complaint about those. It isn't the sights, it's the long lenght of the trigger pull on the striker fired models. Try this and have someone observe you while doing it. Unload it and make safe, then do some dry firing practice. See / observe where the muzzle is when you take point of aim and initiate the trigger pull, then observe where the muzzle is when the trigger finally breaks when squeezing it at a normal rate of speed, you'll see right away where the trouble lies. It takes alot of practice to get used to the long travel in the trigger, especially if you are accustomed to regularly using a SA pistol. A few snap caps make it fun and cost effective to dry fire practice this way without blowing the ammo budget.
hershey  [Member]
12/19/2007 3:16:04 PM EST
you did exactly what i have done to all 5 of my taurus heine sight guns, let me guess, you stopped halfway through the white dot?

on heine sights the correct way to shoot them is to COMPLETELY cover the entire target/impact point, i am certainly not a fan of heine sights, but for the sake of their defense, that is how they are meant to be used.

in regards to the long trigger pull that is true as well, but i have won many a range competion w/ my 24/7, it is mostly about learning the feel and that after squeeze off you only need to let out a fuzz before it will fire again, i/e not letting the entire trigger travel out.

i have removed all non taurus sa/da guns from my self defense inventory because it is so difficult to shoot anything else once you learn the trigger.

try practicing w/ balloons, 10 rds, 10 balloons, when the mag goes empty see how many balloons are left inflated. that is a much better test for self defense type practice, i/e that is very representive of how many fatal shots you would of made.
tha_weird1  [Member]
1/1/2008 9:56:08 AM EST
Hi, this is my first post on this site. I have a 24/7 pro in .40 sw and it shoots almost 5 inches low at at 25 yards. I want to get adjustable night sights for it but dont know what would be a good pair/ where to go to get it. I carry it reguarly and always thought I would need to aim high if I fired at someone a good distance away.
VACaver  [Team Member]
1/7/2008 4:37:36 AM EST
OK, I may be missing something, but why shoot at 25 yards? In reality, I'm not gonna shoot at someone that far, and probably wouldn't hit a damn thing if I did.

I've always thought practicing that far is not really a waste, but non-practical.

Flame suit on.
tha_weird1  [Member]
1/10/2008 6:48:33 AM EST
True, I will be the first to admit that most shootings with small arms occur less than 25 feet away let alone 25 yards. IMHO it is a good benchmark to judge how well you can shoot your pistol. Will you shoot someone 25 yards away? Probably not. I never thought I would shoot at someone 600 yards away, but it happened.
d10skeens  [Member]
1/17/2008 4:34:52 AM EST
my mil-pro 140 had the same issue, about 8" low at 60 feet. i'll admit that i just couldn't adjust to the sight picture and couldn't see having a gun that i had to relearn every time i shot it. i installed a set of wilson combat 367d sights on it. the rear sight snugs up nicely with the set screw, but the front i had to shim in place. you could leave the original on it (they are the same height). i just thought the wilson front sight looked better.left me $40 light in the wallet but now i have a sweet three dot sight picture and it shoots poa/poi at 20 yds.
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