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Why all the Taurus hate? I thought over the last 15 years their quality had increased, yet my 911 ?
9/30/2010 10:13:24 AM
Question got hate, are they that bad?
example http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=5&f=4&t=101239
example http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=5&f=4&t=101239
9/30/2010 10:42:44 AM
I own three, a PT1911, a PT22, and a 96 in 22lr. They all work. A bit rough around the edges but for the price point I have no complaints. Not my first choice and I own a bunch of other stuff, but I've had good luck with my Tauri.
9/30/2010 10:56:02 AM
I just dont trust some of there models. most of their older style designs like the revolvers and PT92's are GTG in my book
9/30/2010 11:30:10 AM
Originally Posted By Ameshawki:
I own three, a PT1911, a PT22, and a 96 in 22lr. They all work. A bit rough around the edges but for the price point I have no complaints. Not my first choice and I own a bunch of other stuff, but I've had good luck with my Tauri.
I own three, a PT1911, a PT22, and a 96 in 22lr. They all work. A bit rough around the edges but for the price point I have no complaints. Not my first choice and I own a bunch of other stuff, but I've had good luck with my Tauri.
I have never owned a Taurus, but have several friends who have. Some have never had any issues, others had issues that were only resolved when they got rid of the gun. I think Taurus' biggest issue is quality control. They make some good guns, but they let a lot of bad ones out the door. Your mileage will vary with your luck of the draw.
10/13/2010 10:53:40 PM
4 people in my work unit of 34 people own Taurus handguns. 2 own Taurus TCP738 pistols and 2 own airweight revolvers. The 2 semi-auto pistols have been back to the factory for feeding malfunctions, failure to extract malfunctions and multiple jams. Both revolvers failed to fire every round in the cylinder and had to go back to the factory for repairs. The turn around time for warranty work is very slow and takes months. Customer service is not all that great. I cannot in good conscience recommend a Taurus handgun to anyone. 
10/13/2010 10:57:11 PM
Taurus is hit or miss regarding quality. The thing that keeps me from buying their pistols is that their customer service is severely lacking (ie pistols being sent in for repairs and being shipped back with the problem not fixed).
10/13/2010 11:13:13 PM
I have two Taurus revolvers and have never had any problems with either one. But it may be hit or miss I have never had problem nor do I know anyone who has
10/13/2010 11:13:42 PM
I guess I'm lucky, because my only Taurus pistol is a 24/7 pro compact in .45 and it has run like a top. I've had 0 issues with it. It eats everything I've fed it without a hiccup and is spot on accurate.
However, my father-in-law has one of the Baretta 92 copies and his first trip to the range with it, the mag release shot out and dropped the mag during a string of fire. The pistol had less than 50 rds through it at the time. He had to send it back for repair and I haven't heard of or seen it since.
However, my father-in-law has one of the Baretta 92 copies and his first trip to the range with it, the mag release shot out and dropped the mag during a string of fire. The pistol had less than 50 rds through it at the time. He had to send it back for repair and I haven't heard of or seen it since.
10/14/2010 12:19:11 AM
Friends don't let friends buy Taurus.
Complete crap in my book. I've dealt with enough customers coming into my store wanting me to send a Taurus back to them for repair. I don't carry Taurus in the shop. But sadly I have idiots come and and want me to special order them. So even after I explain to them the lack of quality they still want. They learn soon enough.
Though I have noticed that the urban youths have a soft spot for them. They love the "bling" models.
Complete crap in my book. I've dealt with enough customers coming into my store wanting me to send a Taurus back to them for repair. I don't carry Taurus in the shop. But sadly I have idiots come and and want me to special order them. So even after I explain to them the lack of quality they still want. They learn soon enough.
Though I have noticed that the urban youths have a soft spot for them. They love the "bling" models.
10/14/2010 12:20:13 AM
Originally Posted By sab308:
I guess I'm lucky, because my only Taurus pistol is a 24/7 pro compact in .45 and it has run like a top. I've had 0 issues with it. It eats everything I've fed it without a hiccup and is spot on accurate.
However, my father-in-law has one of the Baretta 92 copies and his first trip to the range with it, the mag release shot out and dropped the mag during a string of fire. The pistol had less than 50 rds through it at the time. He had to send it back for repair and I haven't heard of or seen it since.
I guess I'm lucky, because my only Taurus pistol is a 24/7 pro compact in .45 and it has run like a top. I've had 0 issues with it. It eats everything I've fed it without a hiccup and is spot on accurate.
However, my father-in-law has one of the Baretta 92 copies and his first trip to the range with it, the mag release shot out and dropped the mag during a string of fire. The pistol had less than 50 rds through it at the time. He had to send it back for repair and I haven't heard of or seen it since.
They're sent back to Brazil for repair. Only their PT22 and PT25 is made in Miami, FL.
10/14/2010 12:28:44 AM
Saving 100-200 bucks is not worth the risk...
anyone who is cheap enough to gamble on a firearm...
deserves whats coming to them when it fails them during an emergency where they need that gun the most.
No one buys wrenches that are known to break when turning nuts and bolts under normal conditions.
Why do the same for a gun... it's simply stupid.
For the extra 100 bucks... buy a good fire arm.
I can see skimping money on a knife... like buying a Ka-bar vs a SOG... for what it's worth the Ka-Bar will give you the same results. (BTW I'd personally prefer a Ka-Bar)
But seriously... why buy a Taurus Ultralight when a S&W Airweight is 100 more bucks?
It's simply stupid.
anyone who is cheap enough to gamble on a firearm...
deserves whats coming to them when it fails them during an emergency where they need that gun the most.
No one buys wrenches that are known to break when turning nuts and bolts under normal conditions.
Why do the same for a gun... it's simply stupid.
For the extra 100 bucks... buy a good fire arm.
I can see skimping money on a knife... like buying a Ka-bar vs a SOG... for what it's worth the Ka-Bar will give you the same results. (BTW I'd personally prefer a Ka-Bar)
But seriously... why buy a Taurus Ultralight when a S&W Airweight is 100 more bucks?
It's simply stupid.
10/15/2010 10:23:35 PM
Skimp on tube socks, or tee shirts. Don't skimp on guns, or parachutes or fire extinguishers.
Larry
Larry
10/15/2010 11:02:50 PM
I've got a few guns, (just like most of the people in this discussion?) if I buy a Taurus and its no good I'll get it fixed, (I have two, sold a third so I could buy a rifle) or sell it, or throw it away. Big deal. If I can only afford one gun, then maybe the above arguments against Taurus apply.
But...
Anyone that buys a gun for personal defense should prove out the gun before carrying it as such. The odds of it going "bad" after proving it out are probably MUCH less than actually needing it for personal protection right? There are threads all over the Internet about just about every kind of gun, made by just about every manufacturer, at every price point, that have reliability issues. In my experience, you know within the first box of ammo if the gun is going to be good or not.
My wifes bedside pistol is a Taurus 24/7 .45. It wouldn't eject unfired rounds so I "fixed" the ejector, now it works flawlessly. (I think they installed the ejector from a .40) It was the cheapest pistol in the case at the gun store, but it fit her hands better than the glock, smith, or springfield, and it held more rounds than any of the 1911's or revolvers they had. It lined up to her eye naturally and she liked the sights. The money we saved on it pretty well paid for a TLR2. The other two Taurus handguns I have/had have been pefect in every way since I bought them.
But...
Anyone that buys a gun for personal defense should prove out the gun before carrying it as such. The odds of it going "bad" after proving it out are probably MUCH less than actually needing it for personal protection right? There are threads all over the Internet about just about every kind of gun, made by just about every manufacturer, at every price point, that have reliability issues. In my experience, you know within the first box of ammo if the gun is going to be good or not.
My wifes bedside pistol is a Taurus 24/7 .45. It wouldn't eject unfired rounds so I "fixed" the ejector, now it works flawlessly. (I think they installed the ejector from a .40) It was the cheapest pistol in the case at the gun store, but it fit her hands better than the glock, smith, or springfield, and it held more rounds than any of the 1911's or revolvers they had. It lined up to her eye naturally and she liked the sights. The money we saved on it pretty well paid for a TLR2. The other two Taurus handguns I have/had have been pefect in every way since I bought them.
10/16/2010 7:57:59 AM
Originally Posted By Larry1096:
Skimp on tube socks, or tee shirts. Don't skimp on guns, or parachutes or fire extinguishers.
Larry
Skimp on tube socks, or tee shirts. Don't skimp on guns, or parachutes or fire extinguishers.
Larry
That is sound advice.
10/16/2010 9:29:21 AM
I have had some luck with Taurus. My first one is a PT-92 that was made in 1991. It has over 10,000 rounds through it and my only problem was worn out wood grips and the ejector pin broke. I also have a PT-1911 bulid in 2008 that was been flawless (expect I put a Wilson Combat hammer on it), a 24/7 .45 acp (a few feeding issues early), and a PT-101 (plinker mostly). With my experience I will say that I am wary of the 709 slim. I have seen too many people having the same problems with them. If I were to buy another Taurus it will probably be another 1911 in .38 super or 9mm (when they are released) or a Judge.
10/16/2010 9:36:49 AM
My wife picked a Taurus 85 which is a 5 shot 38 SPL revolver. Right out of the box it would jam while advancing to the next shot. Seems that it would only happen on one cylinder. Took my dial caliber and found that there was a difference of .015" between two cylinders 144 degrees apart. What was happening is that one cartridges rim would ride up on the cam and would not fall back down. Effectively locking up the works. I went into several other gun stores and found each and every one of them all had the bores drilled into the wheel off center, just like my wife's revolver. I made sure that a message indicating that the bores where off center and that this is the problem. Well it came back 3 times with them replacing the advancing pawl, trigger, hammer but not the wheel. At least on the third time, it appeared to be working. I went through a box of 50 with no hang ups. I then sold it back and took a loss. Then spend a few hundred more and got a SW version. Not one hic-up.
I agree, friends dont let friends buy Taurus. Cheap guns with cheap results. Not saying SW or any of the big 5 are perfect. But when you hear enough horror stories about a manufacture, and still buy from them. Well as they say, you might not be smarter than a 5th grader. Take Toyota for example.
I agree, friends dont let friends buy Taurus. Cheap guns with cheap results. Not saying SW or any of the big 5 are perfect. But when you hear enough horror stories about a manufacture, and still buy from them. Well as they say, you might not be smarter than a 5th grader. Take Toyota for example.
10/25/2010 5:08:07 PM
I have a standard M85 38-special revolver that eats anything and goes boom when I pull the trigger. I have a PT145 1st series which is 'supposed' to be crappy ones. The PT145 was my first DAO auto and took some getting used to. I shoot the crap out of both of these when me and the kids go to the range. The PT145 has never given me any trouble and I have kept an eye on it because of all the forum posts. Like the M85, it eats anything and goes boom when I pull the trigger. Neither of these guns is a long range gun (2" revolver and 3" auto) but they are accurate enough at their designed range.
I just picked up a 24/7 Pro DS C in 9mm and can't wait to shoot it. I have a buddy who has 2000 plus through his and has had no weapon related probs. We both handload and you will sometimes get a FTF that is not caused by the weapon. The cool thing about the Taurus 24/7 is it's a SA/DA striker system...which gives you a second trigger pull with a FTF round (round might not have seated correctly in the weapon or primer wasn't seated fully). I have had some rounds that my Colt and Rock both didn't like that worked just fin in my Taurus PT145..you know the one that is 'supposed' to be crappy. YMMV !!
I don't know how much is 'gun snobbery' but ALL gun manufacturers have lemons. My Colt had to have the rear edge of the safetly buffed...it was too sharp from the factory and would abrade your hand shooting it. My Rock ONLY likes FMJ no matter how much you polish and adjust. Just like the AK vs. AR arguments...you have to find what works for you. (My AK has 2x the number of rounds through it than my AR)
Got a local range that rents handguns? or a friend who'll let you borrow one? I have had good luck with my Taurus's and find nothing wrong with them.
Cheers!
Jay
I just picked up a 24/7 Pro DS C in 9mm and can't wait to shoot it. I have a buddy who has 2000 plus through his and has had no weapon related probs. We both handload and you will sometimes get a FTF that is not caused by the weapon. The cool thing about the Taurus 24/7 is it's a SA/DA striker system...which gives you a second trigger pull with a FTF round (round might not have seated correctly in the weapon or primer wasn't seated fully). I have had some rounds that my Colt and Rock both didn't like that worked just fin in my Taurus PT145..you know the one that is 'supposed' to be crappy. YMMV !!
I don't know how much is 'gun snobbery' but ALL gun manufacturers have lemons. My Colt had to have the rear edge of the safetly buffed...it was too sharp from the factory and would abrade your hand shooting it. My Rock ONLY likes FMJ no matter how much you polish and adjust. Just like the AK vs. AR arguments...you have to find what works for you. (My AK has 2x the number of rounds through it than my AR)
Got a local range that rents handguns? or a friend who'll let you borrow one? I have had good luck with my Taurus's and find nothing wrong with them.
Cheers!
Jay
10/26/2010 9:15:43 PM
Originally Posted By Plastic-Guru:
I have a standard M85 38-special revolver that eats anything and goes boom when I pull the trigger. I have a PT145 1st series which is 'supposed' to be crappy ones. The PT145 was my first DAO auto and took some getting used to. I shoot the crap out of both of these when me and the kids go to the range. The PT145 has never given me any trouble and I have kept an eye on it because of all the forum posts. Like the M85, it eats anything and goes boom when I pull the trigger. Neither of these guns is a long range gun (2" revolver and 3" auto) but they are accurate enough at their designed range.
I just picked up a 24/7 Pro DS C in 9mm and can't wait to shoot it. I have a buddy who has 2000 plus through his and has had no weapon related probs. We both handload and you will sometimes get a FTF that is not caused by the weapon. The cool thing about the Taurus 24/7 is it's a SA/DA striker system...which gives you a second trigger pull with a FTF round (round might not have seated correctly in the weapon or primer wasn't seated fully). I have had some rounds that my Colt and Rock both didn't like that worked just fin in my Taurus PT145..you know the one that is 'supposed' to be crappy. YMMV !!
I don't know how much is 'gun snobbery' but ALL gun manufacturers have lemons. My Colt had to have the rear edge of the safetly buffed...it was too sharp from the factory and would abrade your hand shooting it. My Rock ONLY likes FMJ no matter how much you polish and adjust. Just like the AK vs. AR arguments...you have to find what works for you. (My AK has 2x the number of rounds through it than my AR)
Got a local range that rents handguns? or a friend who'll let you borrow one? I have had good luck with my Taurus's and find nothing wrong with them.
Cheers!
Jay
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I have a standard M85 38-special revolver that eats anything and goes boom when I pull the trigger. I have a PT145 1st series which is 'supposed' to be crappy ones. The PT145 was my first DAO auto and took some getting used to. I shoot the crap out of both of these when me and the kids go to the range. The PT145 has never given me any trouble and I have kept an eye on it because of all the forum posts. Like the M85, it eats anything and goes boom when I pull the trigger. Neither of these guns is a long range gun (2" revolver and 3" auto) but they are accurate enough at their designed range.
I just picked up a 24/7 Pro DS C in 9mm and can't wait to shoot it. I have a buddy who has 2000 plus through his and has had no weapon related probs. We both handload and you will sometimes get a FTF that is not caused by the weapon. The cool thing about the Taurus 24/7 is it's a SA/DA striker system...which gives you a second trigger pull with a FTF round (round might not have seated correctly in the weapon or primer wasn't seated fully). I have had some rounds that my Colt and Rock both didn't like that worked just fin in my Taurus PT145..you know the one that is 'supposed' to be crappy. YMMV !!
I don't know how much is 'gun snobbery' but ALL gun manufacturers have lemons. My Colt had to have the rear edge of the safetly buffed...it was too sharp from the factory and would abrade your hand shooting it. My Rock ONLY likes FMJ no matter how much you polish and adjust. Just like the AK vs. AR arguments...you have to find what works for you. (My AK has 2x the number of rounds through it than my AR)
Got a local range that rents handguns? or a friend who'll let you borrow one? I have had good luck with my Taurus's and find nothing wrong with them.
Cheers!
Jay
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I hear you, Taurus can be a good shooting pistol like my wifes Millenium pro, but for me not without alot of drama.
The Millenium took 2 trips to Taurus, each with about a 2 month turn around time and a trip to a real gunsmith and out of pocket money to make it right ( safety carry pin dropped out 2nd range trip, light firing pin strikes and firing pin reset failure)
The wheels fall off the bus when you may have to send the weapon to Taurus for repair or service. Some of the local gunsmiths in my area refuse to even touch a Taurus.
If your Taurus's are in good order consider yourself lucky , hope it never goes down and knock on wood.
I actually want to like Taurus, but.........
10/26/2010 10:57:35 PM
Really? Come on. There are WAY more taurus firearms that work just fine than those that dont. If that wasn't the case, they would not be in business. I might consider myself unlucky if I had one that was a lemon, but not lucky if I had one that works as it should.
10/27/2010 7:59:30 PM
Originally Posted By bgreen776:
Really? Come on. There are WAY more taurus firearms that work just fine than those that dont. If that wasn't the case, they would not be in business. I might consider myself unlucky if I had one that was a lemon, but not lucky if I had one that works as it should.
Really? Come on. There are WAY more taurus firearms that work just fine than those that dont. If that wasn't the case, they would not be in business. I might consider myself unlucky if I had one that was a lemon, but not lucky if I had one that works as it should.
Taurus reminds me of Kia cars, sure theres thousand of them out there........just have fun when it comes time for repair or re-sale.
Yes, Taurus will stay in business,. They do have some great designs and the prices are great, but their CS sucks thus their biggest complaints.
I've purchased 4firearms recently, each a different maker, wanna guess which was the only one I had a problem with....
Remember, I have Taurus pistols and I really dont have Taurus "hate", but wont buy another one.
Just my opinion and respect others choices to but what they desire.
10/29/2010 10:54:42 PM
I hear ya man.
I have never tried to send a Taurus back to the factory, can't argue with ya on their c.s.
I like:
Their prices
Their selection
Their availability
Their ergonomics
and....
Their prices!
Anyone that looks into buying a gun, sees what everyone charges for a certain class or type of that particular interest, then buys the gun that's 25% cheaper than the competition...
Well.... Duh.
For me the percentage savings is worth the risk. Certainly not going to hold it against anyone if they buy an XDM instead of a 24/7 Pro!
I have never tried to send a Taurus back to the factory, can't argue with ya on their c.s.
I like:
Their prices
Their selection
Their availability
Their ergonomics
and....
Their prices!
Anyone that looks into buying a gun, sees what everyone charges for a certain class or type of that particular interest, then buys the gun that's 25% cheaper than the competition...
Well.... Duh.
For me the percentage savings is worth the risk. Certainly not going to hold it against anyone if they buy an XDM instead of a 24/7 Pro!
10/30/2010 7:00:28 AM
Originally Posted By bgreen776:
Really? Come on. There are WAY more taurus firearms that work just fine than those that dont. If that wasn't the case, they would not be in business. I might consider myself unlucky if I had one that was a lemon, but not lucky if I had one that works as it should.
Really? Come on. There are WAY more taurus firearms that work just fine than those that dont. If that wasn't the case, they would not be in business. I might consider myself unlucky if I had one that was a lemon, but not lucky if I had one that works as it should.
Our work unit has 34 people. Four of us own Taurus handguns. All four of us have had problems with our handguns. Do the arithmetic.
10/31/2010 1:19:10 AM
eh, I don't know. I've got two of there 1911 pistols, one standard and one 1911 AR aluminum, all have been 100%. Maybe I've been lucky, I don't know.
11/8/2010 8:03:36 PM
Hey, some people just have trouble with mechanical things and probably shouldn't even have guns. The double-edged sword of the Internet informs us of those who have had problems with Taurus but not many of the satisfied customers. But this is the way it always works - only unsatisfied owners write about the products, and with the huge market share Taurus has, you would expect more problems. I like my Taurus guns. The PT1911B is an incredible buy with the features it has and the 24/7 Pro .45 is one of my 'ready' guns.
11/10/2010 7:04:09 AM
I have a PT111 PRO, it is good pistol. It always goes bang. I like the second strike option, a real applicable innovation in my boat. Pretty? nope, it is a tool and I carry it all the time. I also have a Glock 26, I like the PRO better because of the safety.
11/10/2010 4:23:00 PM
I have owned a number of Taurus guns and have never had one completely fall apart while using, but I have had some minor issues here and there.
Tauri that I have owned:
-PT92- has been flawless, this is one of their better designs that is created on Beretta machinery that they purchased.
-Judge magnum- went bang every shot in single action, but would sometimes light strike in double action and the cylinder would sometimes try to bind if shooting rapid fire, fiber optic piece in front sight cracked and fell out. After the novelty wore off and I realized how useless shotshells are on anything past about 10-15 feet, I sold it.
-PT145- bought with the intention having a compact .45 to carry, worked great for the first few hundred rounds, then started having light strike issues with certain ammo, ended up selling after I realized I would rather carry my PF9 or LCR.
-Taurus/Rossi/Puma M92 (is this really even Taurus at all??) - no problems, lots of fun and accurate
Tauri that my fiance has owned:
-PT111 - no problems, sold to a friend who loves it and carries it regularly
-Taurus/Rossi .357 snubby - never had any issues other than the fact it isn't very accurate with .38 special
Tauri that I have owned:
-PT92- has been flawless, this is one of their better designs that is created on Beretta machinery that they purchased.
-Judge magnum- went bang every shot in single action, but would sometimes light strike in double action and the cylinder would sometimes try to bind if shooting rapid fire, fiber optic piece in front sight cracked and fell out. After the novelty wore off and I realized how useless shotshells are on anything past about 10-15 feet, I sold it.
-PT145- bought with the intention having a compact .45 to carry, worked great for the first few hundred rounds, then started having light strike issues with certain ammo, ended up selling after I realized I would rather carry my PF9 or LCR.
-Taurus/Rossi/Puma M92 (is this really even Taurus at all??) - no problems, lots of fun and accurate
Tauri that my fiance has owned:
-PT111 - no problems, sold to a friend who loves it and carries it regularly
-Taurus/Rossi .357 snubby - never had any issues other than the fact it isn't very accurate with .38 special
11/10/2010 11:17:18 PM
I have 379 friends that have taurus firearms, and 10,461 of us have had problems.
I'd like to start seeing proof of all these Taurus firearms that have problems.
See how easy that is!?Our work unit has 34 people. Four of us own Taurus handguns. All four of us have had problems with our handguns. Do the arithmetic.
I really don't doubt that you've had issues with your Taurus, I'm just trying to make a point. I'm always skeptical of internet critics as I'm sure you are too.
11/11/2010 1:05:17 PM
My only Taurus is a early 90,s PT-92 I bought new. I shoot the hell out of that gun and never so much as one jam.I plink with cheap ammo all the time. I clean it after shooting and take normal to good care of it. I am very happy with the gun. Being this is my only Taurus it is all I can comment on. The gun is well made and performs flawlessly. 
11/12/2010 6:11:52 PM
Originally Posted By bgreen776:
I'd like to start seeing proof of all these Taurus firearms that have problems. See how easy that is!?
I really don't doubt that you've had issues with your Taurus, I'm just trying to make a point. I'm always skeptical of internet critics as I'm sure you are too.
I have 379 friends that have taurus firearms, and 10,461 of us have had problems.
I'd like to start seeing proof of all these Taurus firearms that have problems.
See how easy that is!?
Our work unit has 34 people. Four of us own Taurus handguns. All four of us have had problems with our handguns. Do the arithmetic.
I really don't doubt that you've had issues with your Taurus, I'm just trying to make a point. I'm always skeptical of internet critics as I'm sure you are too.
If you are willing to pay cash, I can get you a deal on 4 slightly used, often shipped Taurus handguns.
11/16/2010 12:21:34 PM
PT 911 (not 1911) bought 7 or 8 years ago: Don't remember having any problems with it. Have used it quite a bit as a carry gun. Accuracy at 50 yards left me surprised that I could shoot that well at 50 yards with a handgun.
PT 945 bought about 3 years ago: Only issue I recall having is that the wood grip panels had a slight interference issue with the safety lever. The plastic grip panels were included in the box, and they gave it a slightly slimmer grip (without the problem with the safety), so I just swapped the grip panels and put the wood ones in the box. Not as nice to shoot as my 1911, and a little heavy for carry use, but I have carried it occasionally.
PT 92 bought about 2 years ago. Only issue I can claim is that it is not as accurate as my PT 911, even though it has a longer barrel and longer sight radius.
PT 945 bought about 3 years ago: Only issue I recall having is that the wood grip panels had a slight interference issue with the safety lever. The plastic grip panels were included in the box, and they gave it a slightly slimmer grip (without the problem with the safety), so I just swapped the grip panels and put the wood ones in the box. Not as nice to shoot as my 1911, and a little heavy for carry use, but I have carried it occasionally.
PT 92 bought about 2 years ago. Only issue I can claim is that it is not as accurate as my PT 911, even though it has a longer barrel and longer sight radius.
11/16/2010 5:10:41 PM
Damn, this thread won't die, lol.
11/16/2010 7:50:34 PM
Originally Posted By KnightofTheOldeCode:
Damn, this thread won't die, lol.
Damn, this thread won't die, lol.
Bashing Taurus isn't as popular as bashing Glock, but there are people who seem to enjoy it.
11/16/2010 8:43:40 PM
Originally Posted By JPN:
PT 911 (not 1911) bought 7 or 8 years ago: Don't remember having any problems with it. Have used it quite a bit as a carry gun. Accuracy at 50 yards left me surprised that I could shoot that well at 50 yards with a handgun.
PT 945 bought about 3 years ago: Only issue I recall having is that the wood grip panels had a slight interference issue with the safety lever. The plastic grip panels were included in the box, and they gave it a slightly slimmer grip (without the problem with the safety), so I just swapped the grip panels and put the wood ones in the box. Not as nice to shoot as my 1911, and a little heavy for carry use, but I have carried it occasionally.
PT 92 bought about 2 years ago. Only issue I can claim is that it is not as accurate as my PT 911, even though it has a longer barrel and longer sight radius.
PT 911 (not 1911) bought 7 or 8 years ago: Don't remember having any problems with it. Have used it quite a bit as a carry gun. Accuracy at 50 yards left me surprised that I could shoot that well at 50 yards with a handgun.
PT 945 bought about 3 years ago: Only issue I recall having is that the wood grip panels had a slight interference issue with the safety lever. The plastic grip panels were included in the box, and they gave it a slightly slimmer grip (without the problem with the safety), so I just swapped the grip panels and put the wood ones in the box. Not as nice to shoot as my 1911, and a little heavy for carry use, but I have carried it occasionally.
PT 92 bought about 2 years ago. Only issue I can claim is that it is not as accurate as my PT 911, even though it has a longer barrel and longer sight radius.
Was the 911 a single stack? They made one called a 915 that was a double stack. I have been looking for either one for some time with no luck.
Do you have a hammer bite problem with the 945? Loved mine and it shot well but it hammer bit me so bad a sold it and bought a Glock 30. Haven't looked back there.
11/16/2010 11:03:50 PM
Originally Posted By Gopher:
Was the 911 a single stack? They made one called a 915 that was a double stack. I have been looking for either one for some time with no luck.
Originally Posted By JPN:
PT 911 (not 1911) bought 7 or 8 years ago: Don't remember having any problems with it. Have used it quite a bit as a carry gun. Accuracy at 50 yards left me surprised that I could shoot that well at 50 yards with a handgun.
PT 945 bought about 3 years ago: Only issue I recall having is that the wood grip panels had a slight interference issue with the safety lever. The plastic grip panels were included in the box, and they gave it a slightly slimmer grip (without the problem with the safety), so I just swapped the grip panels and put the wood ones in the box. Not as nice to shoot as my 1911, and a little heavy for carry use, but I have carried it occasionally.
PT 92 bought about 2 years ago. Only issue I can claim is that it is not as accurate as my PT 911, even though it has a longer barrel and longer sight radius.
PT 911 (not 1911) bought 7 or 8 years ago: Don't remember having any problems with it. Have used it quite a bit as a carry gun. Accuracy at 50 yards left me surprised that I could shoot that well at 50 yards with a handgun.
PT 945 bought about 3 years ago: Only issue I recall having is that the wood grip panels had a slight interference issue with the safety lever. The plastic grip panels were included in the box, and they gave it a slightly slimmer grip (without the problem with the safety), so I just swapped the grip panels and put the wood ones in the box. Not as nice to shoot as my 1911, and a little heavy for carry use, but I have carried it occasionally.
PT 92 bought about 2 years ago. Only issue I can claim is that it is not as accurate as my PT 911, even though it has a longer barrel and longer sight radius.
Was the 911 a single stack? They made one called a 915 that was a double stack. I have been looking for either one for some time with no luck.
Do you have a hammer bite problem with the 945? Loved mine and it shot well but it hammer bit me so bad a sold it and bought a Glock 30. Haven't looked back there.
The 911 is a double stack, 4" barreled 9mm that is more compact (shorter slide and shorter grip frame) than the full sized 5" barreled pistols, but still has just enough room to get all your fingers on the grip frame. It's very similar to the 945, except for the dimensional differences for double stack 9mm vs single stack .45acp. Since the ban expired, the factory has offered 15 round mags for the 911, but during the ban you could buy the 10 round mags for the .40S&W version (940) and load 14 rounds of 9mm. There was a single stack 9mm very similar to the 911 (looked nearly identical), and if I'm not mistaken the model number was 908. I saw a used 908 at a local store, several years ago (didn't have the money at the time), but I don't remember seeing another one.
Best I can remember, the only handgun that I've ever had the hammer bite me, was a Ruger Super Blackhawk that a cousin talked me into trying out when my wrist was still healing from a sprain and I had an ace bandage wrapped so that one wrap came across my palm. That was over 20 years ago, and I can still see the scar. I don't know if it's a matter of a weight difference, or just the different shape of the grip frame, but the 945 feels like it kicks a little more than my 1911, even though they are the same caliber and I use the same loads in both. I've carried the 945 from time to time, and I would be more inclined to use it for carry than my 1911, but it just isn't as much fun to shoot as the 1911 (the 1911 just feels better and has a better trigger).
ETA: I did a search and found a picture of the 915. Looks like the 911 is the compact version of the 915. The 915's slide is a little longer, and the grip frame looks a little longer. Other than that, they appear identical.
11/19/2010 7:39:10 AM
Originally Posted By bgreen776:
I'd like to start seeing proof of all these Taurus firearms that have problems. See how easy that is!?
I really don't doubt that you've had issues with your Taurus, I'm just trying to make a point. I'm always skeptical of internet critics as I'm sure you are too.
I have 379 friends that have taurus firearms, and 10,461 of us have had problems.
I'd like to start seeing proof of all these Taurus firearms that have problems.
See how easy that is!?
Our work unit has 34 people. Four of us own Taurus handguns. All four of us have had problems with our handguns. Do the arithmetic.
I really don't doubt that you've had issues with your Taurus, I'm just trying to make a point. I'm always skeptical of internet critics as I'm sure you are too.
I stand corrected. There are now five of us with problems with Taurus handguns. I would like to add one more to the list. Yesterday another person from our work unit. brought a Taurus lightweight revolver out to the range and had problems with it. Some of the rounds in the cylinder would not fire. Upon inspection, we noticed the firing pin indentation was not centered on the primer on the rounds that did not fire. It's going back to Taurus.
11/19/2010 9:08:19 AM
Over the years, since 1987 or so, I've owned about...ummm... 7 Taurus handguns.
Of them, my PT-92 and PT-99 (both from the 80's) were flawless, except I broke a locking block on the 92 after about 10,000 rounds and had to send it back to Taurus, they replaced the block and sent it back in under 3 weeks.
The 3 revolvers, one of the 7 shot 357 snubbies, now belongs to a guy I work with, and he still loves it, just the 7 shot cylinder was too large for it's intended use for me. The 5 shot 38 ultralight now is a nightstand gun for another guy I work with, I bought it for a good deal, enjoyed it, but it just wasn't AS good as my 442, so I traded it off. The 4" 85 6-shot 38 got traded off because the sights just weren't cut deep enough, but it was reliable, just not as good as my S&W Model 10.
I still currently own a PT-145 Millennium Pro, which I enjoy very much, it shoots well, holds a large number of large caliber rounds for it's size and the price was right. I also currently have a PT1911, which I'm not too sure if I'm keeping or not. It has lots of options and features that a lot of other similar priced 1911's lack, but when I took it to the range the slide locked back on a loaded magazine 3 or 4 times during a 100 round range session. Still waiting to see if the gun just needs to be shot in, or if it's going to be a regular problem.
That's my personal experience with Taurus.
Of them, my PT-92 and PT-99 (both from the 80's) were flawless, except I broke a locking block on the 92 after about 10,000 rounds and had to send it back to Taurus, they replaced the block and sent it back in under 3 weeks.
The 3 revolvers, one of the 7 shot 357 snubbies, now belongs to a guy I work with, and he still loves it, just the 7 shot cylinder was too large for it's intended use for me. The 5 shot 38 ultralight now is a nightstand gun for another guy I work with, I bought it for a good deal, enjoyed it, but it just wasn't AS good as my 442, so I traded it off. The 4" 85 6-shot 38 got traded off because the sights just weren't cut deep enough, but it was reliable, just not as good as my S&W Model 10.
I still currently own a PT-145 Millennium Pro, which I enjoy very much, it shoots well, holds a large number of large caliber rounds for it's size and the price was right. I also currently have a PT1911, which I'm not too sure if I'm keeping or not. It has lots of options and features that a lot of other similar priced 1911's lack, but when I took it to the range the slide locked back on a loaded magazine 3 or 4 times during a 100 round range session. Still waiting to see if the gun just needs to be shot in, or if it's going to be a regular problem.
That's my personal experience with Taurus.
11/20/2010 8:38:30 PM
Taurus as a company sucks. Their quality control sucks. Their customer service usually sucks.
Taurus handgun designs are excellent. Once your Taurus is working correctly, it is a great gun.
Taurus handgun designs are excellent. Once your Taurus is working correctly, it is a great gun.
