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 S&W 686 2 1/2" ??
david0731  [Member]
2/5/2010 8:38:02 PM
I have never had a revolver but would like to pick one up and the sw 686 w/ 2 1/2" barrel caught my eye. Any info on the revolver or advice would be appreciated. Thanks, I have shot revolvers before though.
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Bladeswitcher  [Team Member]
2/5/2010 8:43:16 PM
The Model 686 is a sweet gun. I assume by looking at the 2.5 inch barrel you're looking for a concealment revolver. If that's the case, you might want to consider a K- frame instead. They pack just a bit smaller, though they're not really intended for lots of magnums.

Still, the 2.5 inch M686 would be nice. I have a 3", 4" and 6". One of these days, I'll pick up a 2.5 inch.

<–––––– That's my 3-inch 686
sbrider  [Member]
2/5/2010 8:45:21 PM
I have a 686 with the 6" barrel. Eats >38 special and .357 reloads with no problems. Used this revolver in bowling pin matches. Fire 6, reload, fire 6, while on the timer. Now, only if my aim had been a little better, I would have won.
rollin_hot  [Team Member]
2/5/2010 9:50:09 PM
Originally Posted By david0731:
I have never had a revolver but would like to pick one up and the sw 686 w/ 2 1/2" barrel caught my eye. Any info on the revolver or advice would be appreciated. Thanks, I have shot revolvers before though.


I own two of them and they are very nice but are a bit hard to find for a fair price. Gunbroker is not a fair representation of the market, but may be used as a last resort if you can't find one but expect to pay alot more.. Some of them on there are super high comparred to what you could fing local. The newer versions have an external lock that annoy the purests and they also have MIM parts (Injection molded) which also chap some people. The older models have the firing pin mounted on the hammer and the newer ones don't.

They come in 6 and 7 shots, the 7 shots are called "686+" or "686plus". Seems like the going rate on them now is $650-$750 for a newer 7 shot version. The older 6 shots are about $500-$650 when you can find them. Also, some of the factory grips i.e. "combats" (like my one 686 has) sell alone for $120-$150 depending on condition. That being said some people will inflate their price soley based on the grips that come with it. I have had guys take a $600 revolver and list it for $750 because it has factory combats, those guns should be $600 with combats.

Also, the older versions were subject to some failure to fires or failures to function because of some type of fouling that would occur in the firing pin channel. I don't remember what "dash" this was fixed by, but if it is an older one, they suggest you send it back to S&W (free of charge) and get it "modified" or "M stamped". If you don't get it modified, they suggest you shoot a smaller wieght round in it.

As far as the dashes go i.e a 686-1, 686-3 etc, the dash denotes certain changes in the model in terms of firing pins, sights etc. If I missed something someone will be along shortly to help. Good luck!!

P.S. I talked to a guy yesturday in Florida that is trading the same 686 that I have with the Magnaports (top pic). I believe he is on the Florida Gun Exchange and was looking for a trade and did not have a cash price but since you are local, he may make you a deal.






THIS WAS POSTED ON THE S&W FORUM.......

Smith & Wesson 686 Plus Revolver in .357 Magnum, .38 Special, Plus P, 2-1/2 in Bbl. Bluebook of Gun Values (30th Edition) indicates between $515 in 98% condition and $650 in 100% condition for this gun. I have 63 recorded prices for this model gun from $350 to $856 over a period of 5 Yrs 6 Mos ending February 1, 2010. The average price as of that date was $521. No refurbs, no refinishes, regular sights, all represented as 95% or better, no distinction for import location or engineering revision, if any, no special editions, no distinctions for box, papers, tools. Current or last MSRP is $964.

Here's how the data charts out. Note the used AVERAGE price trend is at about $580 as of the first of this month. Box papers, good condition would bring the value up, I would think. (The green line is the Inflationary change of $450 during the data period.)


scuba_ed  [Team Member]
2/7/2010 1:03:08 AM
Originally Posted By rollin_hot:
Originally Posted By david0731:
I have never had a revolver but would like to pick one up and the sw 686 w/ 2 1/2" barrel caught my eye. Any info on the revolver or advice would be appreciated. Thanks, I have shot revolvers before though.


I own two of them and they are very nice but are a bit hard to find for a fair price. Gunbroker is not a fair representation of the market, but may be used as a last resort if you can't find one but expect to pay alot more.. Some of them on there are super high comparred to what you could fing local. The newer versions have an external lock that annoy the purests and they also have MIM parts (Injection molded) which also chap some people. The older models have the firing pin mounted on the hammer and the newer ones don't.

They come in 6 and 7 shots, the 7 shots are called "686+" or "686plus". Seems like the going rate on them now is $650-$750 for a newer 7 shot version. The older 6 shots are about $500-$650 when you can find them. Also, some of the factory grips i.e. "combats" (like my one 686 has) sell alone for $120-$150 depending on condition. That being said some people will inflate their price soley based on the grips that come with it. I have had guys take a $600 revolver and list it for $750 because it has factory combats, those guns should be $600 with combats.

Also, the older versions were subject to some failure to fires or failures to function because of some type of fouling that would occur in the firing pin channel. I don't remember what "dash" this was fixed by, but if it is an older one, they suggest you send it back to S&W (free of charge) and get it "modified" or "M stamped". If you don't get it modified, they suggest you shoot a smaller wieght round in it.

As far as the dashes go i.e a 686-1, 686-3 etc, the dash denotes certain changes in the model in terms of firing pins, sights etc. If I missed something someone will be along shortly to help. Good luck!!

P.S. I talked to a guy yesturday in Florida that is trading the same 686 that I have with the Magnaports (top pic). I believe he is on the Florida Gun Exchange and was looking for a trade and did not have a cash price but since you are local, he may make you a deal.


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THIS WAS POSTED ON THE S&W FORUM.......

Smith & Wesson 686 Plus Revolver in .357 Magnum, .38 Special, Plus P, 2-1/2 in Bbl. Bluebook of Gun Values (30th Edition) indicates between $515 in 98% condition and $650 in 100% condition for this gun. I have 63 recorded prices for this model gun from $350 to $856 over a period of 5 Yrs 6 Mos ending February 1, 2010. The average price as of that date was $521. No refurbs, no refinishes, regular sights, all represented as 95% or better, no distinction for import location or engineering revision, if any, no special editions, no distinctions for box, papers, tools. Current or last MSRP is $964.

Here's how the data charts out. Note the used AVERAGE price trend is at about $580 as of the first of this month. Box papers, good condition would bring the value up, I would think. (The green line is the Inflationary change of $450 during the data period.)

<a href="http://img25.imageshack.us/i/sw6866plus25100201.jpg/" target="_blank">http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/2985/sw6866plus25100201.jpg</a>


RECALL: Reports have been received from the field where the combination of a SMITH & WESSON L-FRAME 357 MAGNUM REVOLVER and some .357 Magnum ammunition has resulted in unacceptable cylinder binding. L-frame revolvers bearing model numbers:

581, 586, 681, 686, or 581-1, 586-1,
681-1, 686-1, 686CS-1

Cylinder binding can cause a failure to fire. Mishandling a revolver while freeing the cylinder can result in accidental discharge.

Cylinder binding can result from a number of causes, including characteristics of an individual revolver or the use of ammunition, which does not conform to industry pressure specifications or is particularly fast burning. Recent developments in ammunition manufacture emphasize the production of .357 Magnum ammunition with increased velocity and greater primer sensitivity.

Although there have been very few reported incidents of cylinder binding, in view of our concern for our customer's safety and the reliability of Smith & Wesson products in all circumstances, we issue the following warning:

In a situation where a failure to fire can be critical - such as law enforcement or personal protection - do not use .357 Magnum ammunition with an L-frame revolver bearing model numbers 581, 586, 681, 686 or 581-1, 586-1, 681-1, 686-1, 686CS-1 without an "M" over the model number until you have had the revolver modified.

Those who need to use their L-frame revolver under these conditions prior to modification can safely fire .38 Special caliber ammunition.

Smith & Wesson has developed a modification to improve existing L-frame revolvers. This improvement enables them to fire all .357 Magnum ammunition, without cylinder binding. Shipments of L-frame revolvers from our factory after August 21, 1987 already include this improvement.

You can check if your revolver includes this improvement by looking at the left side of the frame when the cylinder is fully open. If your revolver has been stamped either with a "2" or higher number after the basic three-digit model number or with an "M" above the model number, your revolver includes this improvement and does not need modification. If your revolver bears the model number 581, 586, 681, 686, or 581-1, 586-1, 681-1, 686-1, 686CS-1 without an "M" over the model number, it does not include this improvement and your should have your revolver modified.

Smith & Wesson will modify your L-frame revolver free of charge to eliminate the possibility of cylinder binding with .357 Magnum ammunition. Law enforcement agencies wishing to arrange for modification of L-frame revolvers should call 800-458-8469 between 9 A.M. and 6 P.M. Eastern time (MA residents call 413-734-8244). Other users should send their revolvers to a Smith & Wesson Warranty Service Center, specifying "L-frame improvement program" and enclosing their name and return address.

One of the modifications to improve the L-frame revolver is the installation of a new hammer nose. This obsoletes all old L-frame hammer noses (part numbers 4702 and 7513) and all old L-frame hammer assemblies (part numbers 3366, 3378, 3380, 3382, 3391, 4722, 4723, 4726 and 4728) in field parts inventories. Superseded parts should never be fitted into a modified revolver as this may result in malfunction. It is essential for safety that you return these obsolete L-frame hammer noses and obsolete L-frame hammer assemblies for a free exchange to:

Smith & Wesson
Service Department
2100 Roosevelt Avenue
Springfield, MA 01101

Do not return L-frame hammer-nose bushings from your spare parts inventory inasmuch as they are useable in J, N and K-frame revolvers, which are not included in this Product Warning.

We regret any inconvenience this may cause. Smith & Wesson's first concern is the safety of its products and the protection of its customers.
david0731  [Member]
3/28/2010 12:07:01 PM
Well I finally got one 686-5
2hawk  [Team Member]
3/29/2010 9:44:13 PM
Very Nice!

You will be hard pressed to find the limits of that gun. Strong, accurate, and an excellent defensive weapon, you might also be surprized at how accurate it is when you do your part.

Also, a shout-out to Rollin Hot- Great write up, looks like you've researched your 686's pretty good. I'm still a little jealous of you for finding nice revo's in pairs, while I can only find them one at a time ;D

My 686+,-4 :



rollin_hot  [Team Member]
3/30/2010 2:11:04 AM
Originally Posted By 2hawk:
Very Nice!

You will be hard pressed to find the limits of that gun. Strong, accurate, and an excellent defensive weapon, you might also be surprized at how accurate it is when you do your part.

Also, a shout-out to Rollin Hot- Great write up, looks like you've researched your 686's pretty good. I'm still a little jealous of you for finding nice revo's in pairs, while I can only find them one at a time ;D

My 686+,-4 :

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d150/2hawk/SW686-47.jpg



Thanks....



Mayimbe  [Team Member]
3/30/2010 4:55:05 AM
A 3" 686 has been on my short list when wandering the gun shows for quite some time now. The 686 is my favorite stock .357 in any bbl length by far.
Bladeswitcher  [Team Member]
3/30/2010 7:21:14 AM
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