M&P 9 Pro 5''

I've been shooting Glock's, but I'm thinking about ordering an M&P pro 5'' in 9mm.

I bought one a few days ago. A friend has the 4.25 (non-Pro) model which I was planning on picking up...BUT...when I picked up the 5" Pro, the balance/way it felt in my hand was awesome.

I went to the range and put 250 rounds through it - starting off with relatively slow firing and progressed to quick double taps. The FO sight sticks out very well making sighting the pistol very easy.

There is an APEX sear/trigger upgrade that some people recommend - I bought this over the non-Pro model because I don't plan on upgrading the trigger/sights any time soon.

Best advise is to hold them in your hands and if you can, test fire them.

Hope this helps!!

I owned a full size one for a few months, but the trigger was terrible and I went back to glock.

Ive owned mine for about a year. It sees a lot of action in 3gun and steel matches. I had the Apex DCAEK kit installed on it the day after I bought it to fix the lousy trigger. Then moved to the Apex FSS kit.

As a whole, even without the trigger upgrades, I love it. It feels better than any production pistol Ive shot to date.

I've shot all the M&P 9mm models and all I have bought are full sizes. The Pro isn't as fast as the FS. If you want the longer sight radius for long range shots then go for it but I've never had a problem with the 200 yard steel with my FS.

Pro trigger still sucks.

Ahhhh, but they suck LESS!

Come on, CJ. Please don't come in here and troll.

We get it, you don't like the M&P.

But it was such an eloquently presented argument, with facts and comparative profiles provided. Who could dispute it as anything but fact....?

It just coolaid drinkers giving their "opinions"....same story, anyplace on the internet.


Back to discussion, I have been wanting to pick up a 5in Pro to replace my FS for 3Gun. In the end I am wondering if I should just drop in some apex parts and replace the sights. I got back an forth, but leaning more towards picking up the Pro.

I did a Burwell trigger job.

I carry a 5" Pro as a duty gun. It has a bit over 7krds through it, and runs great. I greatly prefer the longer gun over the 4.25". I find I can run the gun faster than the shorter one, but its personal preference. The trigger is not bad on the PRo, actually pretty good. I did replace the plunger and spring with one from Apex, and it feels a little more solid. I do not care for the FO front sight, and switched it out for a regular black front.

If I were buying one now, I would go with the 9L, and an Apex DCAEK kit. Best of both worlds, and cheaper in the long run.

Can't wait to get my Pro!! It's replacing my XD Tactical as my 3 gun and IDPA gun. 9c is my EDC.

So, I do wonder if the example you tried was maybe a Massachusetts gun. I understand that some versions have superdy duper heavy "lawyer" triggers.

Trigger effort was never my issue with the stock trigger, it had more to do with the overall feel and the false resets. All told, I like the pistol, and the reset isn't an expensive fix by any means.

He's far from a koolaid drinker.

I took three classes with an M&P, carried it for somewhere between 1 and 2 years shot a couple cases of ammo through it. Many have more experience with them, many have less.

If the fix the lock up, rust and trigger issues it would be one of the greats.

I have carried my M&P daily, hot, cold, rain, snow, 100% humidly in an Indiana summer and I have yet to have any rust issues.

As for the trigger, I fixed that with the Apex parts-Don't mind that- and I must have gotten lucky with the lockup.

The lock up issues are almost exclusive to full size 9mm pistols. The magazines and a roll pin rusted for me, some see it on the slides as well. Apex is good stuff.

I didn't tell the OP not to get an M&P, just that the Pro doesn't fix the trigger issues.

I know that Apex is working on a barrel to address the lockup issues. I also know that talking to some more versed in the M&P than me, that the lock issue is hit and miss.Some have it, some do not. Mine does not.

I do wish that S&W would address that, and it seems that it will in the summer with the next gen guns.

So if I get a 45 4.5'' and put apex parts in it I'd get a decently long sight radius, better trigger, and no lock up issues?

I found that the 4" 9s shoot flatter, recoil less, track better and return from recoil better than the 5" guns. If I stayed with the M&P I'd have gone to a 4" gun.

Got rained on hard while I had my M&P on my hip, was assisting a class during their shooting session.

The only things that rusted on my M&P were the sights (factory standard 3 dot), but boy did they bloom orange. It surprised me.

Just my experience, I believe you CJ, not here to start a fight.

That's all I have.

It is all about the full size gun with an extended threaded barrel.

I have found those who dwell on trigger issues have other problems shooting, and are looking for something to blame. My .45 M&P has a bone stock trigger, and while I wouldn't call it crisp, I shoot the same scores with it as I do my 9Pro. Conversely, my Pro has the Apex striker block and striker spring, yet my scores did not improve or decrease from stock. I changed these parts only because I like it better, not because it made me shoot any better. Do I like a nice trigger? Absolutely. Is it a requirement? Absolutely not. There are tons of guys that shoot incredibly well, with box stock Glocks, even with the NY trigger. These guys seem to manage....

As for rust, I just shot a match in Shreveport this weekend. It rained the entire day, and every piece of gear I had was caked with mud, including the M&P. The only rust evident, after it sitting in my range bag for two days was the rear sight, and a small amount on the take-down lever. I work lake Patrol, and have never had any sort of issue with rust.

As for the lockup issues, I have yet to see any of them. We have about a dozen M&Ps on the department, of all varieties, and none seem to exhibit any signs of accuracy issues. While I am sure they are out there, they are nowhere near as prevalent as many seem to want to believe. For the record, we qualify at up 50 yards, so I am sure any accuracy problems would have surfaced.

SRT, the pull is great but the reset is mushy and I have difficulty getting consistent split times with them. I have no issues shooting handguns well and consistently shoot in the top quarter at club level matches and classes.

I have not shot to reset in a long time, so I that may be a valid complaint. Since I stopped hunting for the magical reset, my times have gone down, and my speed and level of accuracy has gone way up.

Picked this up, M&P 9 Pro from a local shop. Got it for $590, not too bad, didn't feel like ordering from the cheaper shop and waiting.

I just ordered a factory one from S&W for $150, tax and shipping included.

Who makes the one at Gemtech?

I checked, that is a factory barrel. It does come with a TP..which runs about $20.

So all and all, that is not that bad of a deal.

Guess I'll get it from Gemtech if its about the same difference, thanks for the reply

I mean it was a total of like $153, I think from S&W.

So if you want one now, and it comes with a TP, then depending on what shipping is, that is not a bad deal.

Now, if they charge $10 to ship it, when it can be put in a small Priority Mail box and mailed for $5.15, then I don't know.

I don't like getting humped on shipping.

I hope mine doesn't have the accuracy problems I keep reading about

Just put that out of your mind.

Go shoot it.

This. Then repeat.

I'll let ya'll know how it goes

Yeah I own six M&Ps myself. (Four pistols two rifles.)

I plan on 2 15-22's, 2 M&P 15 MOE Midlenghts when they are released, another FS 9 w/ safety, 2 M&P-22's and a 2 M&P 9 compacts, one with a safety for the wife.

I have a suspicion they will do a 308 AR one day.

I've been playing with my M&P all day, picked up my Glock and the grip felt weird, I could actually feel the weird angle and hump everyone bitches about.

THIS. I love my 1911s, but they were not cutting it for the wife. She has played with my 9c and had no issues with it. I'm a HUGE fan of common calibers and chasis. What's that old saying about 2 is 1 and 1 is what...?

Update:

you have any pics of this happening because I have a 9 fs too and run with it on my person about 15-20 miles a week and swim with it as well and have never seen any rust. I would love to see this.

it wont when you get used to shooting it. I have 5 and the worst group is 4 inches at 25 yards which is my full size 40.

Unfortunately I have already put the gun on consignment so I can't take any pictures. I've not had rust anywhere on the actual weapon except the rear frame roll pin. The magazines get pretty nasty though and the finish is wearing off of the slide.

on the whole pin or just on the ends? just asking so i can keep a look out.

This might be dumb, but I wonder if the dryness of AZ air helps prevent rusting.

On the end closest to my body, despite the sweat guard.

I carry mine in a humid Indiana summer, sweating like a whore in church and I have had no rust issues.

burwell trigger job tutorial....

http://www.burwellguns.com/M&Ptriggerjob1.htm

i think i dont have this issues because i am a oil whore because im afraid of rust.

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