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grn06rubi  [Team Member]
1/29/2012 8:32:19 PM
Just got a P226 how can i tell if it has the SRT or not
bearone2  [Member]
1/29/2012 10:48:03 PM
clear the 226, pull trigger, rack the slide, let-up on the trigger & you should feel the short reset, compared to a sig with a regular trigger.

post a pic, should be a thinner trigger.

regular trigger

short, not srt but they look similar,

dubyaS  [Member]
1/29/2012 11:47:03 PM
ABOVE IS INACCURATE!!! The actual trigger has nothing to do with the SRT (short reset trigger) system. SRT consists of a change of the sear and safety lever only. Easiest way to tell if you have it is to look at the sear. If it has a piece protruding horizontally to the guns right you have an SRT trigger.
bearone2  [Member]
1/30/2012 11:40:38 AM
& pull the grips when you can do the process i described. most folks aren't going to know what they're looking at any way unless YOU post some pics of what you're talking about.
here's what i'm talking about.

check the one you used for the pic, is it a thin or regular trigger?

they look the same, only difference is the reset on trigger
229 40 sas2b/custom shop, srt, nite sites

ab 229 short trigger
dubyaS  [Member]
1/31/2012 4:03:17 PM
Originally Posted By bearone2:
& pull the grips when you can do the process i described. most folks aren't going to know what they're looking at any way unless YOU post some pics of what you're talking about.
here's what i'm talking about.

check the one you used for the pic, is it a thin or regular trigger?

they look the same, only difference is the reset on trigger


My trigger? Standard. I do have an SRT sear and lever though. Your triggers, short and identical. It is impossible to tell from your pictures whether you have SRT or not. So, for the second time, THE TRIGGER HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH SRT!!!!!

PS Thanks for your serial numbers and wasting our time looking at assembled 229's.
Spartan16  [Member]
1/31/2012 4:20:28 PM
Dubya is right.

Short Reset Trigger (SRT) is NOT to be confused with a short trigger. The SRT is the trigger mechanism which greatly shortens the reset, and the short trigger is literally the piece that you put your finger on is physically shorter/thinner.

I don’t know why Sig called the two things such similar names.
bearone2  [Member]
2/1/2012 8:30:23 PM
Originally Posted By dubyaS:
Originally Posted By bearone2:
& pull the grips when you can do the process i described. most folks aren't going to know what they're looking at any way unless YOU post some pics of what you're talking about.
here's what i'm talking about.

check the one you used for the pic, is it a thin or regular trigger?

they look the same, only difference is the reset on trigger


My trigger? Standard. I do have an SRT sear and lever though. Your triggers, short and identical. It is impossible to tell from your pictures whether you have SRT or not. So, for the second time, THE TRIGGER HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH SRT!!!!!

PS Thanks for your serial numbers and wasting our time looking at assembled 229's.


keep telling yourself they're the same, the reset's as different as nite & day.

you folks are looking at new sas gen2 specs, mine's an '09, just srt not both srt & short.

dubyaS  [Member]
2/1/2012 9:29:56 PM
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keep telling yourself they're the same, the reset's as different as nite & day.

you folks are looking at new sas gen2 specs, mine's an '09, just srt not both srt & short.

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Nobody is looking at any specs, I just happen to know SIG's. But your new '09 SAS gen2 specs (the one with hogue's) that you have shown does have the short trigger on it. 2 out of 3 guns you put pics of have short triggers. Short triggers are short triggers, just as regular triggers are regular triggers. SRT has nothing to do with the piece of metal you put your finger on to make it go bang!!!!! The short reset trigger involves THE SEAR AND SAFETY LEVER ONLY (as shown in my pic)!!! Praise the god of your choice, as this is truly a miracle....i just took the trigger completely out of a 226 and...wait....it still has the SRT system, hallelujah! Check this, dial (603) 772-2302 wait a sec and press 3, from there you will speak to SIG Sauer themselves so they can tell you that you sir have no clue what you are talking about. Good day.
bearone2  [Member]
2/2/2012 2:03:01 PM
thanks for the history tour.

tell me this, is the sas/gen2 really an srt or am i imagining the short reset?
elucidate  [Team Member]
2/2/2012 2:28:18 PM
SAS Gen2 guns have SRT yes.

And to agree with the above poster, he is 100% correct when he says that SRT has nothing to do with short trigger.

Can you can have any combination you like of standard reset, short reset, standard trigger and short trigger.
dubyaS  [Member]
2/2/2012 6:28:39 PM
Originally Posted By bearone2:
thanks for the history tour.

tell me this, is the sas/gen2 really an srt or am i imagining the short reset?


I can't resist. Anyways, here it goes. Your SAS/gen 2 probably does have the SRT sear and safety lever. So no, your not imagining a short reset if you have the SRT sear and safety lever. Yet I nor anybody on the planet can verify this is true with the pics you posted. But once again smart guy, you have a short trigger, and the trigger has eff all to do with the reset! Looky here, sig has two triggers for the P226/229 the standard Standard Trigger, and the short Short Trigger. These are the ONLY two triggers available from SIG Sauer for the P226/229! Neither have anything to do with the SRT system. But wait....here is the normal (non SRT) sear and safety lever Sear, Safety Lever. NOW HERE IS WHAT MAKES A SIG SAUER HAVE A SHORT RESET TRIGGER AKA SRT SRT Kit. Get it yet? Only way to tell if you have the SRT system or not is to either feel the reset (if you know what to feel for) OR LOOK AT THE SEAR AND SAFETY LEVER that can be easily seen by just removing the slide! Understand yet buddy?
bearone2  [Member]
2/2/2012 6:57:05 PM
Originally Posted By dubyaS:
Originally Posted By bearone2:
thanks for the history tour.

tell me this, is the sas/gen2 really an srt or am i imagining the short reset?


I can't resist. Anyways, here it goes. Your SAS/gen 2 probably does have the SRT sear and safety lever. So no, your not imagining a short reset if you have the SRT sear and safety lever. Yet I nor anybody on the planet can verify this is true with the pics you posted. But once again smart guy, you have a short trigger, and the trigger has eff all to do with the reset! Looky here, sig has two triggers for the P226/229 the standard Standard Trigger, and the short Short Trigger. These are the ONLY two triggers available from SIG Sauer for the P226/229! Neither have anything to do with the SRT system. But wait....here is the normal (non SRT) sear and safety lever Sear, Safety Lever. NOW HERE IS WHAT MAKES A SIG SAUER HAVE A SHORT RESET TRIGGER AKA SRT SRT Kit. Get it yet? Only way to tell if you have the SRT system or not is to either feel the reset (if you know what to feel for) OR LOOK AT THE SEAR AND SAFETY LEVER that can be easily seen by just removing the slide! Understand yet buddy?


yeah i know what the short reset is compared to non-srt & i said thanks earlier. good links.

Sonoran_Tj  [Member]
2/3/2012 9:16:40 AM
Try disassembling the handgun. Lock the slide back and move the disassembly lever. Let the slide forward to its original position. If its an SRT you'll have to decock it in order for the slide to come off. If its not SRT the slide should just come off.
elucidate  [Team Member]
2/4/2012 12:09:49 PM
Originally Posted By Sonoran_Tj:
Try disassembling the handgun. Lock the slide back and move the disassembly lever. Let the slide forward to its original position. If its an SRT you'll have to decock it in order for the slide to come off. If its not SRT the slide should just come off.


Nonsense. That is NOT correct.
MaxxII  [Team Member]
2/4/2012 12:49:59 PM
I'm the Sig armorer for my department. Confusion just like this is why I started this thread:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_5_14/118625_Disassembly_and_Reassembly_of_Sig_Classic_Pistols.html

Pics that I took from that thread highlighting the differences between SRT triggers and stock DA/SA triggers....



Left is SRT trigger, right is stock DA/SA trigger.
MaxxII  [Team Member]
2/4/2012 12:51:36 PM
Originally Posted By Sonoran_Tj:
Try disassembling the handgun. Lock the slide back and move the disassembly lever. Let the slide forward to its original position. If its an SRT you'll have to decock it in order for the slide to come off. If its not SRT the slide should just come off.


This is not correct.



bearone2  [Member]
2/4/2012 2:24:02 PM
Originally Posted By MaxxII:
Originally Posted By Sonoran_Tj:
Try disassembling the handgun. Lock the slide back and move the disassembly lever. Let the slide forward to its original position. If its an SRT you'll have to decock it in order for the slide to come off. If its not SRT the slide should just come off.


This is not correct.





i've never had to de-cock to get the slide off the sas2b mentioned earlier with srt.
it's in the manual but oh well......

Sonoran_Tj  [Member]
2/4/2012 9:29:43 PM
Originally Posted By bearone2:
Originally Posted By MaxxII:
Originally Posted By Sonoran_Tj:
Try disassembling the handgun. Lock the slide back and move the disassembly lever. Let the slide forward to its original position. If its an SRT you'll have to decock it in order for the slide to come off. If its not SRT the slide should just come off.


This is not correct.





i've never had to de-cock to get the slide off the sas2b mentioned earlier with srt.
it's in the manual but oh well......



Oh. Sorry for the bad info then. My 229 sas gen 2 does indeed require decocking to disassemble.
dubyaS  [Member]
2/5/2012 9:39:11 PM
Originally Posted By MaxxII:
I'm the Sig armorer for my department. Confusion just like this is why I started this thread:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_5_14/118625_Disassembly_and_Reassembly_of_Sig_Classic_Pistols.html



Thanks for the redundancy.

BTW, none of my SRT's require de-cocking to release the slide.
MaxxII  [Team Member]
2/6/2012 4:22:59 PM
Originally Posted By dubyaS:
Originally Posted By MaxxII:
I'm the Sig armorer for my department. Confusion just like this is why I started this thread:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_5_14/118625_Disassembly_and_Reassembly_of_Sig_Classic_Pistols.html



Thanks for the redundancy.

BTW, none of my SRT's require de-cocking to release the slide.


I've noticed that if one person says something, its sometimes overlooked or viewed as "Yeah, but its just one guy saying that!"
Whereas if two people say the same thing and post pics to prove it, things become a little more concrete....

Not trying to rain on anyone's parade or be a jerk....



pjphilp  [Team Member]
2/14/2012 3:52:34 PM
How easy is it to install an SRT on a P226?

How about on a P239? Same procedure?
grn06rubi  [Team Member]
2/14/2012 5:02:56 PM
i actually just installed it in my P226 today.

Not to difficult. took about 30-45 minutes. hardest part is lining everything up
MaxxII  [Team Member]
2/14/2012 9:21:36 PM
Originally Posted By pjphilp:
How easy is it to install an SRT on a P226?

How about on a P239? Same procedure?


Same procedure for all classic series pistols, (IE P220, P226, P228, P229, P239).

dubyaS  [Member]
2/14/2012 10:59:43 PM
Originally Posted By pjphilp:
How easy is it to install an SRT on a P226?

How about on a P239? Same procedure?


One pin, 3 minute job max, ok maybe 5 but definitely not 30-45 as previous poster stated. Same procedure throughout the real sig series, though the 220 has a different decocker.
grn06rubi  [Team Member]
2/14/2012 11:27:06 PM
Originally Posted By dubyaS:
Originally Posted By pjphilp:
How easy is it to install an SRT on a P226?

How about on a P239? Same procedure?


One pin, 3 minute job max, ok maybe 5 but definitely not 30-45 as previous poster stated. Same procedure throughout the real sig series, though the 220 has a different decocker.


if i hadnt had so much trouble gettin everything lined up for that pin to go through it would have been 5 minutes.
MaxxII  [Team Member]
2/15/2012 1:52:14 AM
Originally Posted By MaxxII:
Originally Posted By pjphilp:
How easy is it to install an SRT on a P226?

How about on a P239? Same procedure?


Same procedure for all classic series pistols, (IE P220, P226, P228, P229, P239).



Actually just read on Sig's website that the SRT kit can also be installed in the P225 and the P245 in addition to the above listed pistols.

pjphilp  [Team Member]
2/18/2012 10:56:52 AM
Originally Posted By dubyaS:
Originally Posted By pjphilp:
How easy is it to install an SRT on a P226?

How about on a P239? Same procedure?


One pin, 3 minute job max, ok maybe 5 but definitely not 30-45 as previous poster stated. Same procedure throughout the real sig series, though the 220 has a different decocker.


Well doing it for the first time took a little longer than 5 minutes but less than 30. Using a pointed kitchen bamboo skewer helps align the parts before putting the sear pin back in. Didn't even use the Sig Interactive Armorer CDs ( $20 at sigsauer.com ) I ordered as they haven't arrived yet...

On my way to the range to test it.