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blake866  [Member]
1/13/2010 12:41:48 AM
Me and my friend were out at the shooting range he is from out of town and wanted to try a Glock 21 in 45. Well after about 100 rounds kaboom. I look over at him as he throws the gun down. I know that this is most likely an ammo issue, the ammo was from big 5 it cost about 26.00 it was steel cased but i forget the brand definitely some sort of off brand not the normal wolf or Blazer steel. When I got home looked up online and found that this is not the the first time its happened.
Same thing
Another one Pistol explodes in deputys hand
Anyways here is the proof









ANIMUS  [Team Member]
1/13/2010 12:45:46 AM
Originally Posted By blake866:
Me and my friend were out at the shooting range he is from out of town and wanted to try a Glock 21 in 45. Well after about 100 rounds kaboom. I look over at him as he throws the gun down. I know that this is most likely an ammo issue, the ammo was from big 5 it cost about 26.00 it was steel cased but i forget the brand definitely some sort of off brand not the normal wolf or Blazer steel. When I got home looked up online and found that this is not the the first time its happened.Story of some one else
Pistol explodes in deputys hand Anyways here is the proof
<img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4068/4270275927_25b2e13ac8_o.jpg" width="604" height="453" alt="20347_1304772412302_1020249116_943446_7743638_n" /></a>
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<img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4027/4270276009_a12e02299f_o.jpg" width="604" height="453" alt="20347_1304772732310_1020249116_943453_6442239_n" /></a>
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Nice pics.
blake866  [Member]
1/13/2010 12:46:21 AM
thanks hold on I will edit it
prov  [Team Member]
1/13/2010 1:00:10 AM
The box in the pic looks like Tula ammo. It's supposed to be made in the same factory as Wolf.
ViniVidivici  [Team Member]
1/13/2010 1:59:07 AM
I'm guessing that's a range rental gun by the red "21" sticker on the dustcover?

Without seeing the frame or barrel in detail (not knowing if there's any cracks), I'd say new trigger bar and mag catch and it's good to go.

Shitty ammo sucks.
blake866  [Member]
1/13/2010 2:10:57 AM
Originally Posted By ViniVidivici:
I'm guessing that's a range rental gun by the red "21" sticker on the dustcover?

Without seeing the frame or barrel in detail (not knowing if there's any cracks), I'd say new trigger bar and mag catch and it's good to go.

Shitty ammo sucks.


You could not take down the gun it was jammed up because the hole trigger assembly tried to come out from where ever it could.
memyselfandi  [Member]
1/13/2010 2:10:58 AM
"My baby glock didn't do nuffin, it was that evil russian ammo"
blake866  [Member]
1/13/2010 2:15:43 AM
does anyone think it was the gun because it may have shot out of battery? or do you think it was ammo?
ViniVidivici  [Team Member]
1/13/2010 2:20:23 AM
Wow, damage may be worse than I thought from looking at the pics. I'm sure the got the gun apart eventually, right?

Hard to say. I'm guessing shitty ammo. Even firing out of battery shouldn't do quite that much damage, I wouldn't think.

ETA: shitty as in overcharged or highly setback when it fed into the chamber.
JDF  [Member]
1/13/2010 2:23:33 AM
Glock Perfection
ziarifleman  [Team Member]
1/13/2010 2:24:54 AM
Looks like a catastrophic case failure to me.
Bradd_D  [Member]
1/13/2010 3:42:50 AM
Originally Posted By JDF:
Glock Perfection




BB223  [Member]
1/13/2010 5:07:45 AM
Originally Posted By Bradd_D:
Originally Posted By JDF:
Glock Perfection






^Reloads

And, I'm willing to be that the GLOCK in the OP blew up because of a set back bullet.

In any case, shitty ammo is shitty ammo because it's shitty.

Hero  [Team Member]
1/13/2010 5:19:19 AM
xdmikey  [Team Member]
1/13/2010 7:38:51 AM
well done Hero!
EdgecrusherXES_45  [Team Member]
1/13/2010 9:16:30 AM
Lets just be glad the OP and his friend are ok that really sucks that pistol did that. I wonder if since it is a range gun the previous shooter was shooting lead and it was not cleaned properly that could be a cause, poor maintenance of the pistol, or as everyone said shitty ammo.

Glad everyone walked away with a face, 10 fingers, and 2 hands.
CLICKBANGBANG  [Team Member]
1/13/2010 10:34:52 AM
that sucks. whatever the cause, glad everyone still has all their fingers.

oh ya, in on one and before this gets real ugly.
EdgecrusherXES_45  [Team Member]
1/13/2010 11:14:27 AM
Originally Posted By CLICKBANGBANG:
that sucks. whatever the cause, glad everyone still has all their fingers.

oh ya, in on one and before this gets real ugly.


No kidding trolls are already hitting this I am just waiting for the first grenade comment from one of the people who probably have never seen personally a Glock KB or shot one for that matter.
haLfLiFe  [Member]
1/13/2010 11:28:20 AM
You know the haters come in here because it's the most popular handgun section on the board.
Alex_B69  [Member]
1/13/2010 12:36:20 PM
Last Sunday I went to the range, and a friend of mine borrowed my Kimber 1911 to shoot, while I was shooting my AR. The only ammo they had was this metal case russian ammo (just like the one in the picture). I kept shooting my AR all morning, so I havent tried the russian ammo, but my friend who tried complained that the while some rounds produced almost no recoil, some seem to have stronger recoil... I wont be allowing him to shoot that ammo on any of my .45's anymore..
rippersde50  [Team Member]
1/13/2010 12:55:53 PM
Get lot number and contact who ever importeted it.

markm  [Team Member]
1/13/2010 1:00:58 PM
Originally Posted By memyselfandi:
"My baby glock didn't do nuffin, it was that evil russian ammo"




Take this SHIT to the General Discussion forum, Flea Bag.
Spook410  [Team Member]
1/13/2010 2:03:58 PM

I may not agree with your assessment of the root cause (why should the ammo be the primary suspect? Lots of steel case shot every year without blowing guns up), but that was a nice write up OP and we all appreciate you taking the time.
blake866  [Member]
1/13/2010 2:17:31 PM
Originally Posted By Spook410:

I may not agree with your assessment of the root cause (why should the ammo be the primary suspect? Lots of steel case shot every year without blowing guns up), but that was a nice write up OP and we all appreciate you taking the time.


I was also thinking the same thing that why I posted this link Glock explodes Looks like probably a Glock 21 but the same thing happened to the casing and this was brass PMC ball That every one says is good to go.
556A2  [Team Member]
1/13/2010 2:43:54 PM
Originally Posted By JDF:
Glock Perfection


yumbeef  [Team Member]
1/13/2010 2:52:35 PM
thanks for posting pics. i hope your friend isn't terrified about guns and never wants to shoot another and plans on bugging his congressmen to ban guns/imported ammo for the rest of us
BB223  [Member]
1/13/2010 2:58:12 PM
Originally Posted By EdgecrusherXES_45:
Lets just be glad the OP and his friend are ok that really sucks that pistol did that. I wonder if since it is a range gun the previous shooter was shooting lead and it was not cleaned properly that could be a cause, poor maintenance of the pistol, or as everyone said shitty ammo.

Glad everyone walked away with a face, 10 fingers, and 2 hands.


Wow, I didn't even think of that.

But now that you mention it, that seems to be the most plausible explination.
dutchman74  [Member]
1/13/2010 2:59:41 PM
I thought the Glock 21 had an issue with firing out of battery?
BB223  [Member]
1/13/2010 3:07:18 PM
Originally Posted By dutchman74:
I thought the Glock 21 had an issue with firing out of battery?


The GLOCK 21 has severe NotA19 issues.

SkagSig40  [Team Member]
1/13/2010 4:28:56 PM
Originally Posted By BB223:
Originally Posted By dutchman74:
I thought the Glock 21 had an issue with firing out of battery?


The GLOCK 21 has severe NotA19 issues.



What problems does the 21/21SF really have? BigBore's 21 was unstopable. You would think all stock 21's would be good to go?

Slustan83  [Team Member]
1/13/2010 5:07:08 PM
I see a ruptured steel case, looks like a box of tula ammo. If that is indeed the ruptured one, what's with the pic of the stove pipe with the brass cased ammo?
BB223  [Member]
1/13/2010 5:22:19 PM
Originally Posted By Slustan83:
I see a ruptured steel case, looks like a box of tula ammo. If that is indeed the ruptured one, what's with the pic of the stove pipe with the brass cased ammo?


I assume the slide stop was ruined and the brass case was used to hold the action open.
maverick698869  [Member]
1/13/2010 5:41:45 PM
Originally Posted By EdgecrusherXES_45:
Lets just be glad the OP and his friend are ok that really sucks that pistol did that. I wonder if since it is a range gun the previous shooter was shooting lead and it was not cleaned properly that could be a cause, poor maintenance of the pistol, or as everyone said shitty ammo.


This is why most ranges that rent guns make you buy and shoot their ammo thru their rental guns, for liability reasons. I know this was the case at the range that I worked at many moons ago.
Forgetfull  [Team Member]
1/13/2010 5:43:05 PM

Originally Posted By 556A2:
Originally Posted By JDF:
Glock Perfection


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Avtomat/boom.jpg


Originally Posted By Bradd_D:
Originally Posted By JDF:
Glock Perfection


http://i45.tinypic.com/ixulhk.jpg



Look I can post pictures of stuff that has blown up too.

Regardless, Glock produces a butt load of handguns and with that many out there, some are bound to have issues. It's just simple probability.

Sure maybe the 40 & 45 models are more prone to Kabooms due to the not completely supported chamber but I'm sure Glock would easly fix that if it was that big of an issue.

FWIW I've bought some brand new Remington 9mm that had a few bullets set so far back you couldn't pay me to put them through my USPc. Every round should be inspected before you shoot it.
blake866  [Member]
1/13/2010 6:23:15 PM
Originally Posted By Slustan83:
I see a ruptured steel case, looks like a box of tula ammo. If that is indeed the ruptured one, what's with the pic of the stove pipe with the brass cased ammo?


The range officer put that brass in there to keep the slide open to show the gun was unloaded.
Slustan83  [Team Member]
1/13/2010 6:52:11 PM
Originally Posted By blake866:
Originally Posted By Slustan83:
I see a ruptured steel case, looks like a box of tula ammo. If that is indeed the ruptured one, what's with the pic of the stove pipe with the brass cased ammo?


The range officer put that brass in there to keep the slide open to show the gun was unloaded.


Got ya, kind of what I was figuring as well.
blake866  [Member]
1/13/2010 7:47:56 PM
Originally Posted By yumbeef:
thanks for posting pics. i hope your friend isn't terrified about guns and never wants to shoot another and plans on bugging his congressmen to ban guns/imported ammo for the rest of us


No he is not terrified he live in Ohio and Has a CCW Glock 9mm.He was actually thinking about buying a Glock 21 But he says now he will stick to Just Glock in 9mm
dan1802  [Member]
1/13/2010 9:20:51 PM
wow..glad the shooter was ok.

not going to comment on the whole KB thing....
dan1802  [Member]
1/13/2010 9:23:01 PM
looks like this is a the ammo in question

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=153712516

anyone know of this ammo having KB issues in the past ?
ViniVidivici  [Team Member]
1/13/2010 10:37:28 PM
Originally Posted By BB223:
Originally Posted By EdgecrusherXES_45:
Lets just be glad the OP and his friend are ok that really sucks that pistol did that. I wonder if since it is a range gun the previous shooter was shooting lead and it was not cleaned properly that could be a cause, poor maintenance of the pistol, or as everyone said shitty ammo.

Glad everyone walked away with a face, 10 fingers, and 2 hands.


Wow, I didn't even think of that.

But now that you mention it, that seems to be the most plausible explination.


I agree, hadn't thought of that, but it IS possible.
fxntime  [Team Member]
1/13/2010 10:45:24 PM
Originally Posted By EdgecrusherXES_45:
Lets just be glad the OP and his friend are ok that really sucks that pistol did that. I wonder if since it is a range gun the previous shooter was shooting lead and it was not cleaned properly that could be a cause, poor maintenance of the pistol, or as everyone said shitty ammo.

Glad everyone walked away with a face, 10 fingers, and 2 hands.


I doubt it was leading as that would have been blown out in the first few rounds of jacketed ammo. I'd bet it was a setback or a defective case.

Solodevice  [Team Member]
1/13/2010 10:57:53 PM
As stated before. With as many guns as Glock produces, there WILL be some that have some type of critical defect.
HOWEVER. An ammo company will put out as many rounds a DAY as Glock puts out guns in a year...
It is simple probability that the issue was with the ammo. That is NOT to say that Glock has not ever produced
a fucked up gun.
Two401Pm  [Team Member]
1/13/2010 11:09:24 PM
I have a friend who owns several Glocks... I saw one kboom in his hand one day also... never lost any digits or spilled blood....But I will never own any glocks....
Bradd_D  [Member]
1/14/2010 12:16:47 AM
Originally Posted By Two401Pm:
I have a friend who owns several Glocks... I saw one kboom in his hand one day also... never lost any digits or spilled blood....But I will never own any glocks....


I would recommend you add these to your list.








Gibbles  [Member]
1/14/2010 1:35:08 AM
Originally Posted By markm:
Originally Posted By memyselfandi:
"My baby glock didn't do nuffin, it was that evil russian ammo"




Take this SHIT to the General Discussion forum, Flea Bag.


+1


I'm willing to bet a combo of lead buildup and setback.

Range guns around here see lots of lead range reloads.
Jonny_Flashbang  [Team Member]
1/14/2010 6:11:44 AM
Sorry about your gun man but Im glad you're ok.
Triumph675  [Member]
1/14/2010 8:09:46 AM
The only thing I think of when I see the OP is +1 to that Glock pistol for containing that explosion and leaving the shooter unharmed.
Alex_B69  [Member]
1/14/2010 9:46:28 AM
Originally Posted By 556A2:
Originally Posted By JDF:
Glock Perfection


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Avtomat/boom.jpg


XDM? That's a new one to me...
haLfLiFe  [Member]
1/14/2010 10:05:12 AM
Originally Posted By Two401Pm:
But I will never own any glocks....


Glad to see you hanging out here in a section in which you despise...lol
neoinarien  [Team Member]
1/14/2010 11:08:45 AM
were people shooting lead through it?
blake866  [Member]
1/14/2010 11:44:26 AM
Originally Posted By neoinarien:
were people shooting lead through it?


no FMJ only