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GeorgeW2004  [Member]
2/24/2009 6:58:14 AM EST
I had a friend pick my brain today a bit about an old SKS he has laying around. Given the uncertain times we are in, he would like to have a decent rifle around for SHTF.

Considering reliability and accuracy, should he keep it in it's original state?

No aftermarket detachable hi-caps?

Receiver cover scope mounts?

Thanks


ETA: This is a standard Russian SKS.

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timb3  [Team Member]
2/24/2009 8:02:17 AM EST
Leave it as is.

The most I would even consider doing might be to add one of the non-detachable chinese 20 round magazines (they're just like the original 10 round one that comes on the gun, but longer). However, some of those 20's have issues with the follower being slightly finicky, and it can take a bit of trial and error tweaking to get them to feed correctly. Also, they're not exactly easy to find.

Those scope mounts that go on the reciever cover are worthless. I've tried several and they won't hold zero after you take it off to clean the rifle. I suppose there might be someone who's figured out how to make one work, but so far I haven't seen it if one exists.

If someone were to drill the side of the receiver itself (not the cover), then I'd imagine someone could come up with a mount that would work.

Seriously though... just use the irons. There's no point in trying to make the rifle something it was never intended to be.


Edited to add: I've tried the aftermarket detachable mags, and they're a pain to get in and out of the rifle. Just keep plenty of stripper clips and leave the original non detachable mag on the rifle.
haLfLiFe  [Member]
2/24/2009 8:24:59 AM EST
If your looking to use it for shtf leave it in its original state. The 10 round factory fixed mag is your best bet, the 20 round chinese magazine is decent but the 10 rounder is way more friendly when using stripper clips. Anything outside of the original configuration I would not trust my life to in this scenario.
briansmithwins  [Team Member]
2/24/2009 8:24:59 AM EST
Bone stock is best in my opinion.

The most important characteristic of a rifle is that it always works. Pretty much anything you change on a SKS is going to impact that. I've used mine at local rifle matches and kept up with the guys shooting ARs (we have almost no AK shooters) with optics. Practice with the SKS is probably more important that with some other rifles as they are harder to load quickly. BSW



Badfish25  [Team Member]
2/24/2009 12:36:44 PM EST
I have heard that LaRue is going to make a red dot sight for the SKS it is similar to the AK dot they offer now, this is the only upgrade I would consider for a SKS.

http://stores.homestead.com/Laruetactical/Detail.bok?no=134
cjp  [Team Member]
2/24/2009 12:37:42 PM EST
I'll go the other way and say if he wants to upgrade the stock and mags, go with the Tapco T6 and 20rnd mags.
NZCT  [Member]
2/24/2009 10:52:34 PM EST
scoutmount with red dot
timb3  [Team Member]
2/25/2009 8:42:46 AM EST
To all those who wish to mess up a perfectly good SKS:







But seriously, the rifle is best if left as designed.
MillerSHO  [Member]
2/25/2009 9:02:36 PM EST
The 20 round fixed mag is cool but when it comes to reloading it with stripper clips, you're going to want the 10 rounder in it.

Leave it stock man and learn how to load the stripper clips well and it will be a respectable SHTF rifle.

Super easy to work and they're everywhere so parts are not an issue and of course ammo is everywhere.

haLfLiFe  [Member]
2/26/2009 5:47:02 AM EST
Originally Posted By MillerSHO:
The 20 round fixed mag is cool but when it comes to reloading it with stripper clips, you're going to want the 10 rounder in it.

Leave it stock man and learn how to load the stripper clips well and it will be a respectable SHTF rifle.

Super easy to work and they're everywhere so parts are not an issue and of course ammo is everywhere.



QFT!!!
POLYTHENEPAM  [Member]
2/26/2009 6:03:47 AM EST
I have one of those 20 shot fixed magazines made in China. Someday I'll sell it to someone I don't like. It has never worked properly on any rifle and as noted, trying to load the second stripper can be a pain. If you don't do it exactly right, the bolt hold open releases.
VitriolicLRC  [Member]
3/3/2009 11:44:57 AM EST
Originally Posted By MillerSHO:
The 20 round fixed mag is cool but when it comes to reloading it with stripper clips, you're going to want the 10 rounder in it.

Leave it stock man and learn how to load the stripper clips well and it will be a respectable SHTF rifle.

Super easy to work and they're everywhere so parts are not an issue and of course ammo is everywhere.



+1 If you practice with the stripper clips, you can load just as fast as a detachable and, God forbid, you are in a firefight, you will be less distracted by dropping the clip than an empty or partially empty magazine. They weigh less to tote around. Get one of the ChiCon chest rigs.
fishngrits  [Team Member]
3/3/2009 12:23:11 PM EST
Leave it stock, especially if it's a Russian.
Det0nate  [Member]
3/3/2009 5:43:40 PM EST
These rifles as issued, were used by soldiers.

Isn't war pretty much SHTF?

DeltaOp  [Member]
3/5/2009 6:22:26 PM EST
I also recommend leaving it stock. I tried using a tapco 20 rounder and it would jam almost every other round. Even had a few FTE's. Stock setup just seems to work best.
weptek911  [Team Member]
3/5/2009 7:10:35 PM EST
+1 on leaving it stock.

Use the money you would spend Tapco-fucking it on stripper clips and chinese sports bra bandoliers. Other than ammo and cleaning supplies you should buy the sight adjustment tool.

The SKS is the best bargain dollar for dollar you can get for collector's interest and utility.
Cacinok  [Member]
3/12/2009 8:25:16 AM EST
another vote for leaving it as is and practicing w/ the stripper clips. if i want an extended mag on an sks, i'll track down a d or m.
Anteater1717  [Member]
3/18/2009 8:07:20 PM EST
Maybe a butt pad extender.
POLYTHENEPAM  [Member]
3/19/2009 3:09:57 AM EST
Originally Posted By weptek911:


chinese sports bra bandoliers.

You've solved one of the minor mysteries of life: Where did the idea of sports bras originate?

Windjammer223  [Team Member]
3/19/2009 2:24:11 PM EST
Another for leaving it "nearly" stock. The 7.62 is a short-medium range round. Unless he is blind as a bat you don't need a scope. The only thing I have done is improve the sights. Micro Tech or the other brand are good. The only thing I would like to do is cut off the grenade launcher (Yugo) and have a trigger job. Then the rifle is good to go. WJ
foreman2000  [Member]
3/20/2009 8:34:39 AM EST
http://www.sksboards.com/smf/index.php?topic=50575.0

i would swap the dot for a tac light so you can blind em and a green laser for a suprise i like the laser b/c i cant hit a thing when i am half asleep lol...
SewerCow  [Member]
3/20/2009 1:29:13 PM EST
Originally Posted By VitriolicLRC:
Originally Posted By MillerSHO:
The 20 round fixed mag is cool but when it comes to reloading it with stripper clips, you're going to want the 10 rounder in it.

Leave it stock man and learn how to load the stripper clips well and it will be a respectable SHTF rifle.

Super easy to work and they're everywhere so parts are not an issue and of course ammo is everywhere.



+1 If you practice with the stripper clips, you can load just as fast as a detachable and, God forbid, you are in a firefight, you will be less distracted by dropping the clip than an empty or partially empty magazine. They weigh less to tote around. Get one of the ChiCon chest rigs.


Not to mention the process of loading in another detachable mag. Move the little slide lock in place, locking the slide. Positioning the mag PERFECTLY in order to attach the mag properly, and THEN you are ready to roll....not to mention (not sure about other peoples mags) the 30 rd mags will only (successfully) hold around 20 rds.
fortney  [Member]
3/20/2009 5:01:19 PM EST
I would recommend the Kivaari trigger modification if you want a good trigger and the Murray firing pin which is spring loaded to prevent slamfires. I put on a Mojo rear sight which works much better for me than the original.

BTW there is a good disassembly video on Youtube.

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foreman2000  [Member]
3/23/2009 5:02:59 AM EST
i would do a factory sks with the socom rail tapco 20 round mag or a fixed 20 if you can find it and a good 200 + lumen tact light you could do a green laser if that kind of thing does it for ya
ArmedFerret  [Member]
3/24/2009 4:48:44 AM EST
Originally Posted By foreman2000:
http://www.sksboards.com/smf/index.php?topic=50575.0

i would swap the dot for a tac light so you can blind em and a green laser for a suprise i like the laser b/c i cant hit a thing when i am half asleep lol...


the photos on page 2 of that thread are just....wow.

I suddenly remembered one of the many reasons I left that board a long time ago...
Makarov  [Member]
3/24/2009 10:31:18 AM EST
I too have some cash poor friends who feel they need to have a semi-auto rifle in addition to the revolver in the bedstand. For the money (even at todays prices) you really can't beat a stock SKS

semi-auto rifle
combat proven
cheap stripper clips (no need to hord mags)
attached bayonet (not really a "plus" but...)
accurate enough for the cartridge
still relatively cheap ammunition
easy to use and maintain

all for ??? (I don't know, I've never paid more than $150 for one)

NOT the PERFECT conflict weapon by any means but an SKS in your hands (with some training) is much more effective than an AR that you are saving up for in three years if they are still available.

Also, the ten round magazine with stripper clips is not near the handicap many people think it is. I am amazed how fast you can load-shoot-reload with some proven clips and a little range time.
rgaper  [Team Member]
3/24/2009 11:34:18 AM EST

Originally Posted By GeorgeW2004:
I had a friend pick my brain today a bit about an old SKS he has laying around. Given the uncertain times we are in, he would like to have a decent rifle around for SHTF.



Tell him to sell it and buy a .22lr rifle.

$250 will buy you 1,000 rounds of SKS ammunition.
$250 will buy you 9,000+ rounds of .22lr ammunition.

simply_green  [Team Member]
3/24/2009 11:54:18 AM EST


Chinese made from spare parts, the stock is the ChiCom fiberglass "jungle" stock that has been epoxy coated flat black. Tapco 20s run fine in it. Added a "Mojo" rear aperture sight in place of the leaf sight and the metal gas tube handguard (welded it). Was able to tune the trigger to get a decent break.
foreman2000  [Member]
3/26/2009 12:21:53 PM EST
Originally Posted By ArmedFerret:
Originally Posted By foreman2000:
http://www.sksboards.com/smf/index.php?topic=50575.0

i would swap the dot for a tac light so you can blind em and a green laser for a suprise i like the laser b/c i cant hit a thing when i am half asleep lol...


the photos on page 2 of that thread are just....wow.

I suddenly remembered one of the many reasons I left that board a long time ago...


i like the boards but it can be full ass hole type people

SVNSXTO  [Member]
3/31/2009 9:41:11 AM EST
Originally Posted By simply_green:
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e84/Simply_Green/CIMG1929.jpg

Chinese made from spare parts, the stock is the ChiCom fiberglass "jungle" stock that has been epoxy coated flat black. Tapco 20s run fine in it. Added a "Mojo" rear aperture sight in place of the leaf sight and the metal gas tube handguard (welded it). Was able to tune the trigger to get a decent break.


Awsome SKS Love mine wouldn't trade it for AK or a 5.56. Out range the AK out punch 5.56 its been proven. Total improvments to my SKS total $400 She redefines EBR in the old skool way. In my hands I know what that rifle and I can do and hey when the shit does hit the fan all that matters is how good you are with what you got. I will be here for years
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