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 AK-103 in Libya
MAKAK47  [Member]
8/20/2011 5:13:53 AM
Check the rifle this rebel is using at 1:17

CNN Libyan Rebels
urbanredneck  [Member]
8/20/2011 8:12:19 AM
Look at all those FALs. I wonder how many they have and how much 762 nato they have for those things?
CPT1-285TH  [Team Member]
8/20/2011 9:29:47 AM
These pics are from earlier in the conflict...



nictra  [Team Member]
8/20/2011 9:15:06 PM
that was def. a 103, cool
MAKAK47  [Member]
8/20/2011 11:06:32 PM
can anybody answer how they got those?
Swoosh101  [Team Member]
8/21/2011 4:55:28 AM
Originally Posted By MAKAK47:
can anybody answer how they got those?




Gadaffi was like a hoarder any weapon his guys found went into storage, rebels then stormed the weapons bunkers amd stole everything that wasn't nailed down. Then came back with crow bars and took the nails.
Las_Vegas_HK  [Member]
8/22/2011 11:13:17 PM
The usual guns in the mid-east conflicts are well used AK's this AK-103 look almost brand new. Had to be a liberated gun or one that was donated to help the rebels.
Las_Vegas_HK  [Member]
8/22/2011 11:15:36 PM
Originally Posted By urbanredneck:
Look at all those FALs. I wonder how many they have and how much 762 nato they have for those things?


And G3's, both 308.

I always wonder the same thing when I see some tribesmen in some African nation with a beat up G3.

Grocerystore_ninja  [Member]
8/23/2011 5:07:21 PM
I saw some pictures of f2000's over there, I don't remember which site it was on , but it was suppressed and had a 40mm on it.
Citadel-SC  [Team Member]
8/23/2011 8:29:21 PM
Originally Posted By MAKAK47:
can anybody answer how they got those?


Gaddafi must have placed an order for Russian 103's, and they were captured by the rebels from a base or what not. There are many pics of their use in Libya by both sides.

On another note...have seen pics of 74M's being used by Syrian troops.
MAKAK47  [Member]
8/24/2011 2:18:27 AM
how close of ties did Ghadafi have with Chavez?
300WSM  [Member]
8/24/2011 7:14:19 PM
Chavez/Russia

Black-Tiger  [Team Member]
8/24/2011 7:38:53 PM
Gaddafi had some nice high end weaponry for their troops; like FN F2000 rifles with grenade launchers that were captured by the rebels and used not long ago...









TheSurvivalist  [Team Member]
9/1/2011 2:25:09 PM
Pretty cool.
OrygunKEO  [Member]
9/1/2011 4:04:34 PM
The front page of the New York Times yesterday had a picture of a whole crate of what appeared
to be AK 103s (the 7.62 version) that were found under one of the houses in the Great Leaders
compound.
fpd164  [Member]
9/1/2011 4:30:58 PM
Originally Posted By Black-Tiger:
Gaddafi had some nice high end weaponry for their troops; like FN F2000 rifles with grenade launchers that were captured by the rebels and used not long ago...

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/6766/fn2000inlibya.jpg

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ll1udq03Jg1qd74g2.jpg

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/248257_232575603425060_197898230226131_1140064_7601151_n.jpg

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ll1u29dOBQ1qd74g2.jpg



nice rifle dirka dirka
MAKAK47  [Member]
9/1/2011 9:22:07 PM
so no chance those AK-103's are Venezuelan?
nictra  [Team Member]
9/1/2011 11:06:16 PM

Originally Posted By MAKAK47:
so no chance those AK-103's are Venezuelan?

I bet they are, but they bought them from Russia, so they'd still be Russian
ImpacTT  [Member]
9/2/2011 11:06:36 PM
France also gave the rebels a bunch of nice weapons: FN, HK,Ak..etc..no FAMAS though..too easy to recognize where the weapons came from..
BattletweeteR  [Team Member]
9/2/2011 11:20:44 PM
ignorant question...AK-103s are significant because...?

hard to get ?
brand spanking new ?
better than the AK-102 ?
design feature ?

BTW this is the first time i have heard of this weapon.
nictra  [Team Member]
9/3/2011 1:55:10 AM

Originally Posted By BattletweeteR:
ignorant question...AK-103s are significant because...?

hard to get ? not really
brand spanking new ? newest version of the AK
better than the AK-102 ? 102 is caliber designation (102-5.56, 103-7.62x39, etc...)
design feature ? newest designed folding stock (poly 5.5), modern furniture, etc...

BTW this is the first time i have heard of this weapon.

Basically a 103 is an AK-74M in 7.62x39. I'm sure someone like Zen will show up and really give you a good history lesson, it's late and I don't feel like typing.

BattletweeteR  [Team Member]
9/3/2011 2:28:38 AM

Originally Posted By nictra:

Originally Posted By BattletweeteR:
ignorant question...AK-103s are significant because...?

hard to get ? not really
brand spanking new ? newest version of the AK
better than the AK-102 ? 102 is caliber designation (102-5.56, 103-7.62x39, etc...)
design feature ? newest designed folding stock (poly 5.5), modern furniture, etc...

BTW this is the first time i have heard of this weapon.

Basically a 103 is an AK-74M in 7.62x39. I'm sure someone like Zen will show up and really give you a good history lesson, it's late and I don't feel like typing.


cool, thanks...i had no clue that there was even a 102.
MAKAK47  [Member]
9/3/2011 10:49:00 AM
Originally Posted By nictra:

Originally Posted By MAKAK47:
so no chance those AK-103's are Venezuelan?

I bet they are, but they bought them from Russia, so they'd still be Russian


actually Venezuela is now producing their own
nictra  [Team Member]
9/3/2011 2:41:38 PM
really?! Learn something new everyday...
TX-Zen  [Team Member]
9/3/2011 3:59:18 PM

Originally Posted By BattletweeteR:
ignorant question...AK-103s are significant because...?

hard to get ?
brand spanking new ?
better than the AK-102 ?
design feature ?

BTW this is the first time i have heard of this weapon.

Mikhail Kalashnikov: 1947...I give you stamped receiver AK47, greatest thing since sliced bread!
Izhmash: 1947...I can't get stamped receiver built right let me use milled. Arrrgh
Izhmash: 1952...OK, I got stamped right, here is AKM, greatest thing since sliced bread!
Russian Army: 1960's....Hey, crazy capitalists went to tiny ass bullet...what's with that?
Mikhail Kalashnikov: It's a fad, get over it
Russian Army: I want AKM in 5.45x39. Tiny ass bullet is sexy
Izhmash: 1974...I give you AK74, greatest thing since sliced bread!
Russian Army: Damn it took you long enough, Viet Nam is over already.
Mikhail Kalashnikov: I'm rather hostile to a reduced caliber being used by us
Russian Army: We get it already
Izhmash: We get it already
Mikhail Kalashnikov: Well f*ck you guys then
Russian Army: 1977...I like this new AK74 so much I'm retiring the AKM. Oh, Izzy btw we need 90 degree gas blocks on these AK74's
Romania: What's wrong with the gas block?
Izhmash: 1985...Don't worry about it. Dammit I can't get this black plastic right, it looks plum.
Izhmash: 1992...I figured out black polymer! I give you AK74M, greatest thing since sliced bread!
Kadhafi: We like what you've done with the AK but we're not sure about 5.45x39. Can you make the same gun for us in 7.62x39?
Izhmash: Did you miss the Vietnam and Afghan wars? Tiny ass bullet is greatest thing since sliced bread... but ok we make for you in 7.62x39. We call it AK103
Mujahadin: Tiny ass bullet? Sh*t that thing is a f*cken poison bullet!
NATO: Damn that AK103 is hot but 7.62x39 is so commie. And USA is making us use their ammo now. We want AK103 but in 5.56x45
Izhmash: Ok we make for you. We call it AK101
Venezuela: Damn that's hot, we'll take AK103 too!
USA: 2010...Wow, hey Izhmash what is AK103? I thought AK47 was still in service?
Izhmash: Umm ...AK47 retired 60 years ago, you're thinking of AKM retired in 1977. We use AK74 now, have been for 40 years
USA: Oh really? Wow, so this AK100 series is new? BTW I like what you did with the furniture.
Izhmash: Sort of, it's AK74M chambered in different caliber
USA: So what's 5.45x39, AK100? AK106?
Izhmash: No, AK74M
USA: So AK74M uses AK100 series furniture?
Izhmash: No, AK100 series uses AK74M furniture. AK74M came first remember, 1992?
USA: I don't get it
Izhmash: I see that.
Izhmash: But nevermind, sales are slow and we have nothing to do but sweep shop floor. Lets crash AKSU into AK74 and make weird hybrid gun, see who bites.
Russian Army: Hey what the hell is that?
Izhmash: It's new super AK. We call it AK105.
Russian Army: Meh... we have best rifle AK74M
OMON: Wow that's sexy I have to have it
USA: Wow that's sexy I have to have it in 5.56
Alpha: Wow that's sexy I have to have it in 7.62x39
Russian Army: Are you ghey? It's weird hybrid gun of AKSU and AK74. Worst of both rifles
Izhmash: Shut up we need the money
Alpha: Yaaay I have AK104
USA: Yaaay I have AK102
Nictra: Yaaaay I have AK105
Izhmash: 2008...I give you AK200, greatest thing since sliced bread!
USA: Ghey
OMON: Ghey
Alpha: Ghey
Kadhafi: Ghey
Izhmash: WTF you guys are the ones crazy about picatinny rails, not me
nictra  [Team Member]
9/3/2011 4:21:08 PM
You so funny! You will love my 105, yes you will.

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9/3/2011 4:27:47 PM
MAKAK47  [Member]
9/4/2011 5:34:36 AM
that needs to be tacked as the layman's guide to the AK's history, especially the Nictra part! HAHAHAHAHA
I can't stop laughing at that shit
saigamanTX  [Team Member]
9/4/2011 10:39:56 AM

Originally Posted By TX-Zen:

Originally Posted By BattletweeteR:
ignorant question...AK-103s are significant because...?

hard to get ?
brand spanking new ?
better than the AK-102 ?
design feature ?

BTW this is the first time i have heard of this weapon.

Mikhail Kalashnikov: 1947...I give you stamped receiver AK47, greatest thing since sliced bread!
Izhmash: 1947...I can't get stamped receiver built right let me use milled. Arrrgh
Izhmash: 1952...OK, I got stamped right, here is AKM, greatest thing since sliced bread!
Russian Army: 1960's....Hey, crazy capitalists went to tiny ass bullet...what's with that?
Mikhail Kalashnikov: It's a fad, get over it
Russian Army: I want AKM in 5.45x39. Tiny ass bullet is sexy
Izhmash: 1974...I give you AK74, greatest thing since sliced bread!
Russian Army: Damn it took you long enough, Viet Nam is over already.
Mikhail Kalashnikov: I'm rather hostile to a reduced caliber being used by us
Russian Army: We get it already
Izhmash: We get it already
Mikhail Kalashnikov: Well f*ck you guys then
Russian Army: 1977...I like this new AK74 so much I'm retiring the AKM. Oh, Izzy btw we need 90 degree gas blocks on these AK74's
Romania: What's wrong with the gas block?
Izhmash: 1985...Don't worry about it. Dammit I can't get this black plastic right, it looks plum.
Izhmash: 1992...I figured out black polymer! I give you AK74M, greatest thing since sliced bread!
Kadhafi: We like what you've done with the AK but we're not sure about 5.45x39. Can you make the same gun for us in 7.62x39?
Izhmash: Did you miss the Vietnam and Afghan wars? Tiny ass bullet is greatest thing since sliced bread... but ok we make for you in 7.62x39. We call it AK103
Mujahadin: Tiny ass bullet? Sh*t that thing is a f*cken poison bullet!
NATO: Damn that AK103 is hot but 7.62x39 is so commie. And USA is making us use their ammo now. We want AK103 but in 5.56x45
Izhmash: Ok we make for you. We call it AK101
Venezuela: Damn that's hot, we'll take AK103 too!
USA: 2010...Wow, hey Izhmash what is AK103? I thought AK47 was still in service?
Izhmash: Umm ...AK47 retired 60 years ago, you're thinking of AKM retired in 1977. We use AK74 now, have been for 40 years
USA: Oh really? Wow, so this AK100 series is new? BTW I like what you did with the furniture.
Izhmash: Sort of, it's AK74M chambered in different caliber
USA: So what's 5.45x39, AK100? AK106?
Izhmash: No, AK74M
USA: So AK74M uses AK100 series furniture?
Izhmash: No, AK100 series uses AK74M furniture. AK74M came first remember, 1992?
USA: I don't get it
Izhmash: I see that.
Izhmash: But nevermind, sales are slow and we have nothing to do but sweep shop floor. Lets crash AKSU into AK74 and make weird hybrid gun, see who bites.
Russian Army: Hey what the hell is that?
Izhmash: It's new super AK. We call it AK105.
Russian Army: Meh... we have best rifle AK74M
OMON: Wow that's sexy I have to have it
USA: Wow that's sexy I have to have it in 5.56
Alpha: Wow that's sexy I have to have it in 7.62x39
Russian Army: Are you ghey? It's weird hybrid gun of AKSU and AK74. Worst of both rifles
Izhmash: Shut up we need the money
Alpha: Yaaay I have AK104
USA: Yaaay I have AK102
Nictra: Yaaaay I have AK105
Izhmash: 2008...I give you AK200, greatest thing since sliced bread!
USA: Ghey
OMON: Ghey
Alpha: Ghey
Kadhafi: Ghey
Izhmash: WTF you guys are the ones crazy about picatinny rails, not me


Derek45  [Team Member]
9/4/2011 12:58:42 PM
Originally Posted By TX-Zen:

Originally Posted By BattletweeteR:
ignorant question...AK-103s are significant because...?

hard to get ?
brand spanking new ?
better than the AK-102 ?
design feature ?

BTW this is the first time i have heard of this weapon.

Mikhail Kalashnikov: 1947...I give you stamped receiver AK47, greatest thing since sliced bread!
Izhmash: 1947...I can't get stamped receiver built right let me use milled. Arrrgh
Izhmash: 1952...OK, I got stamped right, here is AKM, greatest thing since sliced bread!
Russian Army: 1960's....Hey, crazy capitalists went to tiny ass bullet...what's with that?
Mikhail Kalashnikov: It's a fad, get over it
Russian Army: I want AKM in 5.45x39. Tiny ass bullet is sexy
Izhmash: 1974...I give you AK74, greatest thing since sliced bread!
Russian Army: Damn it took you long enough, Viet Nam is over already.
Mikhail Kalashnikov: I'm rather hostile to a reduced caliber being used by us
Russian Army: We get it already
Izhmash: We get it already
Mikhail Kalashnikov: Well f*ck you guys then
Russian Army: 1977...I like this new AK74 so much I'm retiring the AKM. Oh, Izzy btw we need 90 degree gas blocks on these AK74's
Romania: What's wrong with the gas block?
Izhmash: 1985...Don't worry about it. Dammit I can't get this black plastic right, it looks plum.
Izhmash: 1992...I figured out black polymer! I give you AK74M, greatest thing since sliced bread!
Kadhafi: We like what you've done with the AK but we're not sure about 5.45x39. Can you make the same gun for us in 7.62x39?
Izhmash: Did you miss the Vietnam and Afghan wars? Tiny ass bullet is greatest thing since sliced bread... but ok we make for you in 7.62x39. We call it AK103
Mujahadin: Tiny ass bullet? Sh*t that thing is a f*cken poison bullet!
NATO: Damn that AK103 is hot but 7.62x39 is so commie. And USA is making us use their ammo now. We want AK103 but in 5.56x45
Izhmash: Ok we make for you. We call it AK101
Venezuela: Damn that's hot, we'll take AK103 too!
USA: 2010...Wow, hey Izhmash what is AK103? I thought AK47 was still in service?
Izhmash: Umm ...AK47 retired 60 years ago, you're thinking of AKM retired in 1977. We use AK74 now, have been for 40 years
USA: Oh really? Wow, so this AK100 series is new? BTW I like what you did with the furniture.
Izhmash: Sort of, it's AK74M chambered in different caliber
USA: So what's 5.45x39, AK100? AK106?
Izhmash: No, AK74M
USA: So AK74M uses AK100 series furniture?
Izhmash: No, AK100 series uses AK74M furniture. AK74M came first remember, 1992?
USA: I don't get it
Izhmash: I see that.
Izhmash: But nevermind, sales are slow and we have nothing to do but sweep shop floor. Lets crash AKSU into AK74 and make weird hybrid gun, see who bites.
Russian Army: Hey what the hell is that?
Izhmash: It's new super AK. We call it AK105.
Russian Army: Meh... we have best rifle AK74M
OMON: Wow that's sexy I have to have it
USA: Wow that's sexy I have to have it in 5.56
Alpha: Wow that's sexy I have to have it in 7.62x39
Russian Army: Are you ghey? It's weird hybrid gun of AKSU and AK74. Worst of both rifles
Izhmash: Shut up we need the money
Alpha: Yaaay I have AK104
USA: Yaaay I have AK102
Nictra: Yaaaay I have AK105
Izhmash: 2008...I give you AK200, greatest thing since sliced bread!
USA: Ghey
OMON: Ghey
Alpha: Ghey
Kadhafi: Ghey
Izhmash: WTF you guys are the ones crazy about picatinny rails, not me


MAKAK47  [Member]
9/7/2011 5:22:40 PM
Supplied by Russia

scroll down the page and you'll see some Libyans with a crate of -103's that's from a port near Izhveck or h/e that's spelled