Question for Norinco experts***PICS ADDED***

Good day to all -

I have an opportunity to buy this PRE-BAN CHINESE AK47 223 UNDERFOLDER NORINCO 84S-1 (sorry for the caps I copied it from a Gunbroker ad) for what seems to be a pretty good price. It is the same rifle as this :

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=203566401

This one went for $1300.00 I think, and the one I'm looking at comes with 3 mags, sling, bayonet, cleaning kit and 3 boxes of Norinco .223

It has California import markings and the serial numbers match up.

Thanks in advance for any input. I've got some pictures I'll put up in a couple of minutes.

What's the question?

Just wondering if anyone knew anything about it, and whether I should snatch it for $800.00. What I should look for .

IMO! $800 is a decent deal.

Sounds like a good deal to me. Besides all matching numbers I would check for any canting in the sights, field strip it and look for any excessive wear on the bolt or bolt carrier, inside the receiver or and trigger, also excessive wear of the rifle's bluing and any rust or pitting in the barrel or anywhere else. I am not familiar with identifying marks on Norinco/Chinese mags or bayos but you might want to research that also to see if they are originals but even if they weren't I wouldn't let that be a deal breaker if anything it could be used as leverage to get a even slightly better deal. I think those are all standard things to look for when looking at a used firearm though. Otherwise I would say it is gtg.

I wouldn't pay more than $1000 for that. The .223 Chinese AK's don't demand much of a premium around here, I think it has to do with the propietary mags ( they go for around $50 for a 30 rd mag ). I see them regularly for around $850 with one mag at the gun shows here.

Edit, I thought you were looking at the gunbroker rifle. $800 sounds like a fair price, not a steal, but in this market it is a fair price. If you really want a .223 Chinese AK go for it, just know that the mags are expensive and not easily available, if you look though they aren't that hard to find.

Not my first or second choice in caliber for an AK, but I'd still buy it just to have one... They are kinda becoming a collectors item, those old Norinco rifles. That one looks all stock and as the others said, comes with 3 mags... Seems like a nice deal. You can shoot it, enjoy it, and it'll still increase in value as time goes bye.

Thanks guys. It's also not my first choice in calibers. It's a coworkers rifle and he's going to drag it to a pawn shop or something to fund another rifle so I'm thinking I should get it. My next was going to be an Arsenal in 5.45x.39 or an M1A Scout so this rifle isn't really on my 'list' or one that I want. But it's sweet, very clean, 2 owners and about 500 rounds through it from NIB.

I think I'd rather have the Arsenal. Not looking for another rifle in .223 unless this thing was a steal. Still hate to see it go to nobody though.

Thanks again for the input.

Is the Pawn Shop owner going to give him $800?

I doubt it! Offer him something more in line with what the pawn shop would offer like $400-$500.

I have $450 in a Postban NHM-90 .223 I restored to an underfolder and I think I stole it.

I love it and its caliber. Its the best of both worlds. Ak reliable and a super common (if no longer cheap) American military chambering.

Everyone bitches about the mag availability issues. I have 2 highcaps and a 10 round hunting mag for it.

They serve me well and I see no need to spend a fortune seeking out mags for a rifle that I only take to the range.

If the SHTF I will reach for my AR and its pile o' mags.

$800 is a fair price with the extra mags.

I have a fixed stock version that I paid $500 for in unfired condition with no box and one mag. I bought 8 more mags and now I have about $900 or so in mine. They shoot great.

Has it gone to the Pawn shop yet? If so which one? I know some one who might be interested.

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