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sjerdude  [Member]
11/28/2010 9:29:16 PM
I dont know much about Polytech. Found a guy who said he bought a an ak, 10 years or more ago. Wants to get rid of it because he does not shoot it. He does not know much about it and said it had Polyteck on it, with a "red side folding stock." He is going to send picks to me by e-mail. He said it has one "banana mag" and a drum mag. No box.

Did Polyteck make a stock like this? The guy said he bought it, shot it one time, and put it away. It came up in conversation, and he was not looking to sell it. I just asked if he wanted to sell it.

I figure if it looks good I will buy it.
Mach  [Team Member]
11/28/2010 9:48:18 PM
Yes Polytech made a stamped side folding red Bakelite furniture rifle.

$500 with a drum? I hate you.

I stole this picture, just like you are going to steal that rifle.

Molive  [Team Member]
11/28/2010 9:50:12 PM
I've seen that side folding stock sell for close to $500 alone
sjerdude  [Member]
11/28/2010 9:52:00 PM
Originally Posted By Mach:
Yes Polytech made a stamped side folding red Bakelite furniture rifle.

$500 with a drum? I hate you.

I stole this picture, just like you are going to steal that rifle.

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6931/polytw1ao1.jpg


Well, with my luck. When I get the picks, im sure it will be an SKS.

Lets just say the deal comes through, whats it worth $.

Mach  [Team Member]
11/28/2010 10:10:50 PM
Originally Posted By sjerdude:
Originally Posted By Mach:
Yes Polytech made a stamped side folding red Bakelite furniture rifle.

$500 with a drum? I hate you.

I stole this picture, just like you are going to steal that rifle.

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6931/polytw1ao1.jpg


Well, with my luck. When I get the picks, im sure it will be an SKS.

Lets just say the deal comes through, whats it worth $.



2 to 3 times what you are going to pay for it if it's in NIB like condition
Mach  [Team Member]
11/28/2010 10:12:06 PM
wea ll deserve a great deal now and then.

I picked up an unfired Polytech Legend just before the 2008 election for $750 out the door
faawrenchbndr  [Member]
11/30/2010 1:48:55 PM
I've never seen a folding stock on a SKS.

Good luck,.....could be the deal of the year!
Dferg10  [Member]
11/30/2010 2:10:10 PM
Originally Posted By faawrenchbndr:
I've never seen a folding stock on a SKS.

Good luck,.....could be the deal of the year!


The SKS did not come with a folding stock, but it is/was a very common upgrade.

sjerdude  [Member]
12/3/2010 10:10:43 PM
Here it is, one mag has Poly China on base. The other mag has a rib on the back with a small 22 on it. Both mags are loaded with 10-15 year old wolf ammo, one is loaded with Chinese ammo head stamp 71 over 92. The drum looks like a 75 rnd, it has a 36 in a triangle. The finish on the rifle is about 98%. It Needs a good cleaning. The stock locks up tight. The guy I bought it from said he shot it once and put it away. Came with the sling also.

So how did I do? What is a quick estimate of value? What type of mag is the one with the rib?


Molive  [Team Member]
12/3/2010 11:44:43 PM
Nice find!. I'd put it at about 1200 down here in TX
m62-m76  [Member]
12/4/2010 12:19:35 AM
You Suck!

Awesome Deal!

Whocares05050  [Member]
12/4/2010 12:41:46 AM
Go on gunbroker. some of them are selling for 3k.
fourtfourmag  [Member]
12/4/2010 11:22:13 AM
Originally Posted By Whocares05050:
Go on gunbroker. some of them are selling for 3k.


Show me a Poly sidefolder "actually selling" for 3 grand now.

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joezeta  [Member]
12/4/2010 10:59:39 PM
Great Deal, wont ever find a deal like that here in NY...

I would say $1200-$1500 range.....


Now go get a muzzle nut on there !!!
ak47mays  [Team Member]
12/5/2010 1:26:06 AM
great find!! you better hold onto that one, won't find a deal like that again. hard to say what the other mag is. look on the spine for any stamps and post a pic. someone could prolly tell you. congrats.
10mm4ever  [Member]
12/5/2010 4:10:57 PM
Damn!! Is that muzzle brake original??
sjerdude  [Member]
12/5/2010 4:48:57 PM
Originally Posted By 10mm4ever:
Damn!! Is that muzzle brake original??


yes

faawrenchbndr  [Member]
12/5/2010 5:20:32 PM
Wow,.......you scored, BIG time! Congrats!
ILAK  [Member]
12/7/2010 1:01:06 AM
1200-1400 as others said. Your score beat my best ever score. Congrats. Hang onto it.. it will only go up in value.
Dferg10  [Member]
12/7/2010 10:04:22 AM
Originally Posted By sjerdude:
Here it is, one mag has Poly China on base. The other mag has a rib on the back with a small 22 on it. Both mags are loaded with 10-15 year old wolf ammo, one is loaded with Chinese ammo head stamp 71 over 92. The drum looks like a 75 rnd, it has a 36 in a triangle. The finish on the rifle is about 98%. It Needs a good cleaning. The stock locks up tight. The guy I bought it from said he shot it once and put it away. Came with the sling also.

So how did I do? What is a quick estimate of value? What type of mag is the one with the rib?


http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt3/sjerdude/PICT0722.jpg


The magazine with the rib along the back and a "22" on it is probably Romanian. As you probably know, Chinese mags [EDIT per Rayman1's point below] USUALLY do not have a rib. Euro made mags usually do. I have two Romanian AK's that came new with mags like yours.
sjerdude  [Member]
12/7/2010 4:45:31 PM
Originally Posted By Dferg10:
Originally Posted By sjerdude:
Here it is, one mag has Poly China on base. The other mag has a rib on the back with a small 22 on it. Both mags are loaded with 10-15 year old wolf ammo, one is loaded with Chinese ammo head stamp 71 over 92. The drum looks like a 75 rnd, it has a 36 in a triangle. The finish on the rifle is about 98%. It Needs a good cleaning. The stock locks up tight. The guy I bought it from said he shot it once and put it away. Came with the sling also.

So how did I do? What is a quick estimate of value? What type of mag is the one with the rib?


http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt3/sjerdude/PICT0722.jpg


The magazine with the rib along the back and a "22" on it is probably Romanian. As you probably know, Chinese mags do not have a rib. Euro made mags usually do. I have two Romanian AK's that came new with mags like yours.


Thanks

sjerdude  [Member]
12/11/2010 9:39:13 AM
So, now the question is: should I shoot it? Or is it a collectible?
fourtfourmag  [Member]
12/11/2010 10:19:23 AM
Originally Posted By sjerdude:
So, now the question is: should I shoot it? Or is it a collectible?


Its already been shot, fire away. Collectability would increase a bit if it were unfired w/the original box and accessories IMHO.

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Rayman1  [Member]
12/11/2010 12:51:02 PM
Originally Posted By Dferg10:
Originally Posted By sjerdude:
Here it is, one mag has Poly China on base. The other mag has a rib on the back with a small 22 on it. Both mags are loaded with 10-15 year old wolf ammo, one is loaded with Chinese ammo head stamp 71 over 92. The drum looks like a 75 rnd, it has a 36 in a triangle. The finish on the rifle is about 98%. It Needs a good cleaning. The stock locks up tight. The guy I bought it from said he shot it once and put it away. Came with the sling also.

So how did I do? What is a quick estimate of value? What type of mag is the one with the rib?


http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt3/sjerdude/PICT0722.jpg


The magazine with the rib along the back and a "22" on it is probably Romanian. As you probably know, Chinese mags do not have a rib. Euro made mags usually do. I have two Romanian AK's that came new with mags like yours.


Not true - some Chinese magazines do have a rib - the Sino-Soviet magazine and the Chinese Transitional magazine. Both have the rib on the back.
ILAK  [Member]
12/11/2010 3:12:13 PM
Originally Posted By sjerdude:
So, now the question is: should I shoot it? Or is it a collectible?


The answer is YES and YES. Just clean it and oil it after shooting to keep it in top shape. It'll always be worth more than you paid for it, and it should keep rising in value as long as you keep it. You should definitly shoot it and enjoy it. While you're at the range, I'm sure it will get some attention from other AK fans as well.
rcbif  [Member]
12/11/2010 4:29:04 PM
Originally Posted By ILAK:
Originally Posted By sjerdude:
So, now the question is: should I shoot it? Or is it a collectible?


The answer is YES and YES. Just clean it and oil it after shooting to keep it in top shape. It'll always be worth more than you paid for it, and it should keep rising in value as long as you keep it. You should definitly shoot it and enjoy it. While you're at the range, I'm sure it will get some attention from other AK fans as well.


yep, shoot it! The chrome lined barrel helps it stay in tip top shape if you skimp on cleaning in my experience, and it cleans so easy. Hard part is cleaning the receivers little nooks and crannies, but ear swabs work good.
ILAK  [Member]
12/11/2010 5:05:18 PM
Originally Posted By rcbif:
Originally Posted By ILAK:
Originally Posted By sjerdude:
So, now the question is: should I shoot it? Or is it a collectible?


The answer is YES and YES. Just clean it and oil it after shooting to keep it in top shape. It'll always be worth more than you paid for it, and it should keep rising in value as long as you keep it. You should definitly shoot it and enjoy it. While you're at the range, I'm sure it will get some attention from other AK fans as well.


yep, shoot it! The chrome lined barrel helps it stay in tip top shape if you skimp on cleaning in my experience, and it cleans so easy. Hard part is cleaning the receivers little nooks and crannies, but ear swabs work good.


A good way to get the nooks and crannies clean (if you're shooting corrosive for example) is to let your cleaning product sit all over the gun for a minute or two, then hit everything you can see with the air compressor. The cleaning product loosens the particles and the air blows them out. I don't bother to do it unless cleaning corrosive, but the air blast does help when it matters.
Dferg10  [Member]
12/11/2010 7:01:35 PM
Originally Posted By Rayman1:
Originally Posted By Dferg10:
Originally Posted By sjerdude:
Here it is, one mag has Poly China on base. The other mag has a rib on the back with a small 22 on it. Both mags are loaded with 10-15 year old wolf ammo, one is loaded with Chinese ammo head stamp 71 over 92. The drum looks like a 75 rnd, it has a 36 in a triangle. The finish on the rifle is about 98%. It Needs a good cleaning. The stock locks up tight. The guy I bought it from said he shot it once and put it away. Came with the sling also.

So how did I do? What is a quick estimate of value? What type of mag is the one with the rib?


http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt3/sjerdude/PICT0722.jpg


The magazine with the rib along the back and a "22" on it is probably Romanian. As you probably know, Chinese mags do not have a rib. Euro made mags usually do. I have two Romanian AK's that came new with mags like yours.


Not true - some Chinese magazines do have a rib - the Sino-Soviet magazine and the Chinese Transitional magazine. Both have the rib on the back.


I said it is probably Romanian and it probably is. 22 mark is more than likely Romanian. Yes - there are some Chinese mags with ribs like you say, but the have 66 and a triangle on them usually.
Rayman1  [Member]
12/12/2010 12:31:04 AM
+1.
uscombatdiver  [Member]
12/14/2010 10:41:47 PM
You got taken. I will help you recover your losses, just send it to me and I will pay you back your money. Next time you should know before you buy, but this time we'll just call it an innocent mistake...

OK, honestly, it was a great deal! Congrats!
wyomingnick  [Member]
12/16/2010 6:57:59 PM
Great deal. Any AK fan would be jealous.
mac1045  [Member]
12/16/2010 7:29:22 PM
Originally Posted By sjerdude:
Originally Posted By 10mm4ever:
Damn!! Is that muzzle brake original??


yes



No. They used slants, or plain nuts, or an interpretation of a birdcage. Never seen a factory CHICOM with an AK-74 brake.
sjerdude  [Member]
12/16/2010 7:48:27 PM
Originally Posted By mac1045:
Originally Posted By sjerdude:
Originally Posted By 10mm4ever:
Damn!! Is that muzzle brake original??


yes



No. They used slants, or plain nuts, or an interpretation of a birdcage. Never seen a factory CHICOM with an AK-74 brake.


Really? I have seen alot of pics of this type rifle, with this brake. Hummmmm

AndyHk93M4  [Member]
12/28/2010 12:16:49 AM
great find: those red side folder polytech's are the rarest and are very hard to come by & you stole yours!

I'm very jealous ....have always wanted one of them

they go for aprox. $1500.00 on gunbroker.com but you don't see them being auctioned that much


here's one example
fourtfourmag  [Member]
12/28/2010 11:34:53 AM
Originally Posted By AndyHk93M4:
great find: those red side folder polytech's are the rarest and are very hard to come by & you stole yours!

I'm very jealous ....have always wanted one of them

they go for aprox. $1500.00 on gunbroker.com but you don't see them being auctioned that much


here's one example


That auction has been listed forever, he might find a sucker to buy it at that price, but thats not the norm. These Red sidefolders sit around $1000-1600, w/$1600 being truley NIB...

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sjerdude  [Member]
12/28/2010 7:29:28 PM
Originally Posted By fourtfourmag:
Originally Posted By AndyHk93M4:
great find: those red side folder polytech's are the rarest and are very hard to come by & you stole yours!

I'm very jealous ....have always wanted one of them

they go for aprox. $1500.00 on gunbroker.com but you don't see them being auctioned that much


here's one example


That auction has been listed forever, he might find a sucker to buy it at that price, but thats not the norm. These Red sidefolders sit around $1000-1600, w/$1600 being truley NIB...

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Thanks guys. Its not eating anything, so off to the safe it goes.