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3/25/2011 7:43:02 PM
I'm having a weird problem with my AK. When I slow fire the gun everything seems to be OK. But when I try and rapid fire the gun ends up jamming with a fte. The empty casing becomes stuck in between the bolt carrier and the top cover sometimes it will even go inside the cover requiring me to take the cover off. Sometimes when it jams I clear it but then end up with a double feed because the next round is already chambered. I have polished and smoothed out the hammer and fcg and tried different mags but I still get this problem. Anyone have any idea what to do or try next?
3/25/2011 11:26:46 PM
Clean it completly and Id replace the extractor and spring just to make sure...
3/26/2011 7:24:53 PM
What about my recoil spring? Could that be causing the problem?
3/27/2011 8:15:43 AM
Possible but unlikely.
3/28/2011 8:10:26 PM
Yesca, your problem sounds exactly like mine. When or if I figure it out you will be the first person I tell. Dont give up yet, AK's are great when they work properly. I suspect the extractor is the problem.
3/29/2011 4:36:04 AM
I did take the extractor apart and cleaned it but I haven't gotten a chance to try it again. Please let me know if you figure it out and I will do the same. This damn gun has been driving ne nuts for a while now so I hardly shoot it. Haha
4/3/2011 11:25:02 AM
I am having the same issue, also in my rifle the bolt carrier does not move freely in the receiver. It starts to drag just forward of the FCG. Could this be a issue? Bought the rifle brand new, put about 400rds down range hoping it would work it's self out. But no luck. Any ideas?
4/3/2011 1:28:21 PM
mine had the exact same issue. the ejector is either out spec <to small> or not in the right location allowing the bolt to ride around it intermittantly. mine actually gradully got worse to the point it would no longer eject at all.
i took my welder and built it up a good bit so that it always engaged the bolt properly. never had another issue with it. it honestly was about a 10 min fix.
i have heard several people with similar issues on the gp guns. sad... the rest of my gun was a flawless build.
i took my welder and built it up a good bit so that it always engaged the bolt properly. never had another issue with it. it honestly was about a 10 min fix.
i have heard several people with similar issues on the gp guns. sad... the rest of my gun was a flawless build.
4/7/2011 12:22:17 PM
Yesca, I sent mine back to Century. Check out my thread, Any experience out there with returns to Century. Its in the AK Discussions. Feel free to ask any questions. Some of the guys have dealt with this. C6W
4/7/2011 3:09:58 PM
Hey c6w I read up on the return things. Let me know how it goes. I am wondering if me polishing the fcg will have ant affect on warranty. I am thinking that my rifle may just be having a weak extractor issue because my bolt carrier slides without binding in between the rails.
4/7/2011 3:21:07 PM
Originally Posted By Yesca:
Hey c6w I read up on the return things. Let me know how it goes. I am wondering if me polishing the fcg will have ant affect on warranty. I am thinking that my rifle may just be having a weak extractor issue because my bolt carrier slides without binding in between the rails.
Hey c6w I read up on the return things. Let me know how it goes. I am wondering if me polishing the fcg will have ant affect on warranty. I am thinking that my rifle may just be having a weak extractor issue because my bolt carrier slides without binding in between the rails.
are you having issues extracting or ejecting?
4/7/2011 4:38:03 PM
It's having problems ejecting during rapid fire. So I'm thinking that the extractor claw is not gripping the case hard enough to slam it into the ejector.
4/7/2011 9:15:55 PM
Originally Posted By Yesca:
It's having problems ejecting during rapid fire. So I'm thinking that the extractor claw is not gripping the case hard enough to slam it into the ejector.
It's having problems ejecting during rapid fire. So I'm thinking that the extractor claw is not gripping the case hard enough to slam it into the ejector.
if it's extracting from the chamber that isn't the issue. it takes more force to extract than it does to hold the case in place in the bolt. the extractor doesn't slam anything. the bolt is intermittantly riding around the ejector.
you have the same issue i had. ejector needs to be built up.
4/7/2011 11:40:18 PM
Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
if it's extracting from the chamber that isn't the issue. it takes more force to extract than it does to hold the case in place in the bolt. the extractor doesn't slam anything. the bolt is intermittantly riding around the ejector.
you have the same issue i had. ejector needs to be built up.
Originally Posted By Yesca:
It's having problems ejecting during rapid fire. So I'm thinking that the extractor claw is not gripping the case hard enough to slam it into the ejector.
It's having problems ejecting during rapid fire. So I'm thinking that the extractor claw is not gripping the case hard enough to slam it into the ejector.
if it's extracting from the chamber that isn't the issue. it takes more force to extract than it does to hold the case in place in the bolt. the extractor doesn't slam anything. the bolt is intermittantly riding around the ejector.
you have the same issue i had. ejector needs to be built up.
Can you show me a pic of where you built up the ejector?
4/8/2011 7:56:25 AM
it'll take me a few days to get one snapped.
if you look at how the bolt rides rearward and the ejector rides in the notch on the left side of the bolt you will likely see that the bolt is being allowed to "ride around" the ejector. the ejector should positivly engage the inside of that groove which places it in contact with the back of the round. the rearward motion of the bolt causes the force needed to kick the round out once they make contact.
in my case my ejector was either too "short" or not correctly positioned. 9/10 times the bolt would have enough slop in movement that the ejector would only ride deep enought to barely catch the edge of the bolt face.
what i did was take my welder and build up the front leading edge enough to ensure that it was in the correct position 100% of the time. it took some trial and error and some light filling when done <and my welding ain't pretty to begin with> but the gun runs 100% now.
not my pic but a good one that shows the ejector
build up the area the arrow is pointing to. specifically the right most edge to the inside of the reciever. you want to make it "wide" to better engage the bolt.
i have seen a few of the these gp's that did this. all were fixed by century but i just hated mailing mine back for something i could fix in about 30 min or less.
i have a local guy here that is a wizard with ak's, he showed me how to fix this and it's a very easy fix if you have access to a welder.
if you look at how the bolt rides rearward and the ejector rides in the notch on the left side of the bolt you will likely see that the bolt is being allowed to "ride around" the ejector. the ejector should positivly engage the inside of that groove which places it in contact with the back of the round. the rearward motion of the bolt causes the force needed to kick the round out once they make contact.
in my case my ejector was either too "short" or not correctly positioned. 9/10 times the bolt would have enough slop in movement that the ejector would only ride deep enought to barely catch the edge of the bolt face.
what i did was take my welder and build up the front leading edge enough to ensure that it was in the correct position 100% of the time. it took some trial and error and some light filling when done <and my welding ain't pretty to begin with> but the gun runs 100% now.
not my pic but a good one that shows the ejector
build up the area the arrow is pointing to. specifically the right most edge to the inside of the reciever. you want to make it "wide" to better engage the bolt.
i have seen a few of the these gp's that did this. all were fixed by century but i just hated mailing mine back for something i could fix in about 30 min or less.
i have a local guy here that is a wizard with ak's, he showed me how to fix this and it's a very easy fix if you have access to a welder.
4/9/2011 2:21:39 AM
Ok so I checked the bolt to ejector fit and i have a wobble. When I shake the rifle I can hear it rattleing around, is this normal? It does the same thing when it is in front and behind the ejector. Also I looked at where you said to build it upwith a weld and it looks like if I do that the bolt may get cocked to one side when it passes the ejector, will that be ok or no? Thanks for the help.
4/9/2011 8:25:42 AM
it should have a little wobble but the ejector should always engage the inside "ring" of the bolt face so that it always comes in contact with the back of the case. in my case the bolt generally moved in such a way that the ejector was frequently only running through the outside rin og the bolt and barely touched the case if at all. that kept the case in the bolt causing jams or if it did contact it, it was on the extreme edge causing the spent round to leave the bolt but generally stay inside the action.
you don't need to build it up much. just enough to hit the case.
just for the record i am not a gunsmith just a gun nut that like to fix his own gear.
you don't need to build it up much. just enough to hit the case.
just for the record i am not a gunsmith just a gun nut that like to fix his own gear.
4/9/2011 10:16:33 AM
Originally Posted By Yesca:
When I shake the rifle I can hear it rattleing around, is this normal? It does the same thing when it is in front and behind the ejector.
You're probably hearing the bolt hitting the bolt carrier. This is normal. The parts aren't supposed to fit together like a Swiss watch. Generous clearances contribute to reliable operation.
Also I looked at where you said to build it upwith a weld and it looks like if I do that the bolt may get cocked to one side when it passes the ejector, will that be ok or no?
As long as you don't add so much metal that the bolt binds on the ejector it will be OK. If you do add too much, file some off until the bolt will pass the ejector. The ejector should move the bolt to the right (when viewed from above) SLIGHTLY.
When I shake the rifle I can hear it rattleing around, is this normal? It does the same thing when it is in front and behind the ejector.
You're probably hearing the bolt hitting the bolt carrier. This is normal. The parts aren't supposed to fit together like a Swiss watch. Generous clearances contribute to reliable operation.
Also I looked at where you said to build it upwith a weld and it looks like if I do that the bolt may get cocked to one side when it passes the ejector, will that be ok or no?
As long as you don't add so much metal that the bolt binds on the ejector it will be OK. If you do add too much, file some off until the bolt will pass the ejector. The ejector should move the bolt to the right (when viewed from above) SLIGHTLY.
4/22/2011 7:41:18 PM
Yesca, I got my rifle back on Tues. Works great. From when rifle was received at Century, 13 days to back in my hands. Good luck to you which ever way you go.
4/23/2011 1:09:22 AM
Damn that sounds good. Did they say what they fixed on the rifle? Also do you think Century will warranty my rifle even though I polished the fcg?
4/23/2011 11:59:26 AM
Yesca, They never stated what they did. They included the shop ticket, but the only viable info was "30rds yugo fired", with alot of check boxes. My observation is maybe some addition of material and or possible "tweaking" of the extractor. Also. if you still have your white "streamer", the long strip of info in the trigger guard. This will tell you the date of manufacture/warranty. As far as the FCG. I would not disclose that and would try to paint/mask that. The Tapco G2 rides high and is not recomended in Nodak receivers, its on the Nodak site, if you want to look it up. But it wasnt the issue in my rifle. It does hang up on the BC, but I had ejector issues.
7/6/2011 2:19:31 AM
Well I finally got around to fixing and testing the rifle. Got the ejector welded up to make better contact with the bolt and test fired. Did a few mag dumps and everything works good minus a couple hang ups from sticky magazine followers. Thank you guys for all your input and suggestions.
