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Sucess I fixed it!!!! Wasr 10 cant
6/4/2010 6:15:08 PM
So I finally got around to shooting my new wasr 10. Originally from looking at it I couldnt see any cant, but after firing the shots were about 4-7 inches to the right, and after pressing the front sight over in the field it shot straight.
This is what I ended up with when I got home. Surprisingly it came this way but before I shot it I pushed it into the center thinking they just got lazy when building it. Now im wondering if they test fired it and set it.
I could of left it alone but it drove me crazy. So at home I punched out the pins, one came out easy the other took some beating but nothing got ruined. After fiddling around for a while I got it straight, used a laser line and laser bore sight. I didnt have the correct drill bit after all this so I slowly pounded them back in. I did see the cant earlier BTW and now when I look at it it looks straight. So I centered the front post and checked with my laser bore sight, and up to 25 yards in my backyard the laser is to the left about 1/2 inch or less, if I spin my laser to different spots it could be almost dead on, so I figure the laser isnt exactly straight its a cheap one.
I have another ak and that one shoots straight, and the laser in that on is almost the same 1/2 inch or less off to the left so im hoping its better now.
My question is, is there enough slop in the barrel notches to do what I did without redrilling the holes, or from pounding maybe I shifted another area just a hair to make everything work. Or is it necessary to redrill after taking out the cant. Of course I cant confirm what I did until I shoot it again, but visually I dont see the amount of cant it had earlier. I even used a laser line that self levels along the whole ak, centering on the stock screw, along the barrel to the sight, and it looked to be off 1/8 or less just like the laser bore sight shows. I should of done this before I started but I forgot.
It did feed and shot hp's, and 4 brands of ak ammo, not one dud or anything. Im very happy.
This is what I ended up with when I got home. Surprisingly it came this way but before I shot it I pushed it into the center thinking they just got lazy when building it. Now im wondering if they test fired it and set it.
I could of left it alone but it drove me crazy. So at home I punched out the pins, one came out easy the other took some beating but nothing got ruined. After fiddling around for a while I got it straight, used a laser line and laser bore sight. I didnt have the correct drill bit after all this so I slowly pounded them back in. I did see the cant earlier BTW and now when I look at it it looks straight. So I centered the front post and checked with my laser bore sight, and up to 25 yards in my backyard the laser is to the left about 1/2 inch or less, if I spin my laser to different spots it could be almost dead on, so I figure the laser isnt exactly straight its a cheap one.
I have another ak and that one shoots straight, and the laser in that on is almost the same 1/2 inch or less off to the left so im hoping its better now.
My question is, is there enough slop in the barrel notches to do what I did without redrilling the holes, or from pounding maybe I shifted another area just a hair to make everything work. Or is it necessary to redrill after taking out the cant. Of course I cant confirm what I did until I shoot it again, but visually I dont see the amount of cant it had earlier. I even used a laser line that self levels along the whole ak, centering on the stock screw, along the barrel to the sight, and it looked to be off 1/8 or less just like the laser bore sight shows. I should of done this before I started but I forgot.
It did feed and shot hp's, and 4 brands of ak ammo, not one dud or anything. Im very happy.
6/8/2010 11:02:45 AM
Originally Posted By Mikegigabyte:
My question is, is there enough slop in the barrel notches to do what I did without redrilling the holes, or from pounding maybe I shifted another area just a hair to make everything work. Or is it necessary to redrill after taking out the cant.
My question is, is there enough slop in the barrel notches to do what I did without redrilling the holes, or from pounding maybe I shifted another area just a hair to make everything work. Or is it necessary to redrill after taking out the cant.
You can try tapered pins. Others have posted that they have had success using them.
6/8/2010 6:37:24 PM
Well what I did worked!!!
As my laser bore sight showed me I do now shoot a hair to the left which is acceptable as my front sight is centered. I could drift it over to the left a touch but I have to have it centered, OCD type thing.
Here is 25 yards with ak sight at 100, trying to keep about 1 inch low at 25 yards.
Before it was off the target to the right, between 4- 7 inches not even on the target paper. So just taking out the front sight pins, beating the sight over and installing the pins, no redrilling the holes at all it all worked out. Im sure if I could have gotten the sight perfectly straight it would be dead on but its really hard getting it straight because its so tight on the barrel. I was hitting clay targets at 100 yards, took between 2-3 shots to hit though, but I could barely see them.
Im very happy now. I can live with it to the left a touch.
As my laser bore sight showed me I do now shoot a hair to the left which is acceptable as my front sight is centered. I could drift it over to the left a touch but I have to have it centered, OCD type thing.
Here is 25 yards with ak sight at 100, trying to keep about 1 inch low at 25 yards.
Before it was off the target to the right, between 4- 7 inches not even on the target paper. So just taking out the front sight pins, beating the sight over and installing the pins, no redrilling the holes at all it all worked out. Im sure if I could have gotten the sight perfectly straight it would be dead on but its really hard getting it straight because its so tight on the barrel. I was hitting clay targets at 100 yards, took between 2-3 shots to hit though, but I could barely see them.
Im very happy now. I can live with it to the left a touch.
6/11/2010 8:21:56 PM
Is it on the paper at 100yd's now, if so congrat's.
6/11/2010 8:44:01 PM
No I said 25 yards in the post above. I was hitting clay targets at 100. I was to lazy to go walk out to 100 yards, someone left the clays there.
Actually I did more sight work, I beat over the sight even more but with the pins still in and according to my laser bore its now 100% straight, checked 6 different times to make sure laser was in correctly. I had drawn a line on the barrel and sight and it was moved over a hair, and that was too much so it doenst take much to fix. Didnt know you can fine tune with the pins in. Havent verified it yet but I trust the laser, its been correct everytime.
Actually I did more sight work, I beat over the sight even more but with the pins still in and according to my laser bore its now 100% straight, checked 6 different times to make sure laser was in correctly. I had drawn a line on the barrel and sight and it was moved over a hair, and that was too much so it doenst take much to fix. Didnt know you can fine tune with the pins in. Havent verified it yet but I trust the laser, its been correct everytime.
