Lancaster Arms still in business?
Are they still solvent? Doing better in QC and Customer service or did they go under?
My buddy got one of the two guns he ordered there 2 years ago. They still owe him a AK pistol. I would not chance them.
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Originally Posted By mrcuervo:
did they go under?
We can only hope.
No offense, but I am skeptical any time a brand new person logs in here and asks about Lancaster. To answer the question: Lancaster has a ruined reputation and repeatedly asking about them with extreme low post count shill accounts has made them less endearing than when they were just having QC issues.
Originally Posted By mrcuervo:
Are they still solvent? Doing better in QC and Customer service or did they go under?
First post is a question about Lancaster? The next post will be one about how great the OPs experience was with them. Not suspicious at all.
I was just curious thats all gents...i found an AK-47 in russian red from Lancaster built in 2008 during my last inventory. Forgot I even had it sitting in the safes buried.
.I also own a Henderson custom made AK-74 from a bulgy kit, an Arsenal SGL 31-61, a GSG .22 AK, and finallly a Golani Sporter. A Valmet is on my wish list but it's probably never gonna happen.
The last thing i can find about them was from a blog dated last year dec that they were being sued by the AG in AZ.
http://lancasterarmssucks.blogspot.com/
Lancaster sucks balls
Lancaster hasn't and will never recover. The rifle you found is probably alright just don't count on any kind of customer service or warranty work with them.
Originally Posted By gunmonkey:
No offense, but I am skeptical any time a brand new person logs in here and asks about Lancaster. To answer the question: Lancaster has a ruined reputation and repeatedly asking about them with extreme low post count shill accounts has made them less endearing than when they were just having QC issues.
Originally Posted By mrcuervo:
Are they still solvent? Doing better in QC and Customer service or did they go under?
+1.
We had
another person (?) do this in April: Come onto Arfcom with a brand spankin' new account, with three entire posts to his name, acting as if he was just asking an innocent question about Lancaster. It was probably one of the more awkward and clumsily-executed shilling attempts I've seen.
To answer your question in any regard OP, the
only thing you need to know about Lancaster Arms at this point, is that Lancaster and Chet Durda are being sued for fraud.
If that fact alone doesn't spell things out for you with the utmost clarity, then let me elaborate with an analogy...
Pretend I tell you of a restaurant that has delicious food and great service. Sounds like a place you might wanna go, right? Now, what if I tell you that I can
prove that the cooks at this restaurant routinely spit in the food, and this restaurant is being sued because of it. Do you still wanna eat there? If you're like most normal, rational people, that last fact alone would convince you that eating there is probably a really, really bad idea.
Well, Lancaster is that restaurant. Although with Lancaster, the food and service in recent years hasn't even been that good to begin with. With Lancaster you get boring food, horrible service, AND the cook might spit in your food just for good measure.
Sounds great, huh???

It's probably a good rifle you have. They went bad with about half their 74s, wrong barrels I think, then fell off a cliff. If your asking if you can sell it for anything because of the rep of the company, a good rifle is a good rifle, but the rep that company has now is a real bummer for those of us that have em, even though i never sell guns so irs no biggie for me. I suppose you could focus on the fact it's a 47, which I haven't heard of any problems but haven't had any with mine, & hopefully a young serial #, and those are good points. But if someone wants to buy it and asks about it here, after they get their ass reamed for bringing it up, they'll probably run.
thanks for all the replies...i wonder what kits they used? probably romanians i bet.
Let's put it this way. A Lancaster Rough Rider Ak -74 was/is the ONLY lemon rifle that I have ever had.
I ended up sending it to a very good gunsmith down in Tennessee (Troy Sellars) who put a new Bulgarian barrel in it and refinished it into a very nice semi-auto ak-74 clone. I did this because I did NOT trust Lancaster to make the problem right. It cost me a little money out-of-pocket but the end result was worth it.
I only had to fire about ten shots out of it when I first bought it to know that something was not right. The barrel was improperly ported.
Just FYI OP.
yeah i'm gonna test function fire my lancaster and if i have any issues i know not to send to lancaster.
i would rather pay someone else to fix it then go thru them.
The kit on mine was a romy g
Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I just noticed something...
In April, when "Jae-Hova" asked about Lancaster, he used capitalization in his first post, then stopped using it in all subsequent posts in that thread. (And as another poster in that thread predicted would happen, "Jae-Hova" never logged into Arfcom again.)
"Mrcuervo", in your first two posts in this thread you used capitalization, and then stopped using it with your remaining posts.
I suppose it could just be a coincidence, but it's certainly a strange one: Two "different" people create new Arfcom accounts, both ask about Lancaster in their first and only threads, and both have a strikingly similar pattern in their style of writing where they start a thread using capitalization at the beginning, before abandoning it as the thread moves on.

Originally Posted By mrcuervo:
yeah i'm gonna test function fire my lancaster and if i have any issues i know not to send to lancaster.
i would rather pay someone else to fix it then go thru them.
you would never see your rifle again
also they moved to a new location
I would never do business with them after my disaster with them.
I hope they will eventually be out of business
also keep in mind they no longer take credit cards - they only take a check or money order that should tell you somthing
Stephen, can you post a link to the thread by Jae-Hova? I can't seem to pull it up. Thanks.
Originally Posted By BigAKFan:
Stephen, can you post a link to the thread by Jae-Hova? I can't seem to pull it up. Thanks.
There's a link to it in my first post in this thread.
Like I said, it could just be a coincidence. But I doubt that it is.
Jesus Christ, relax guys....I know Mr. Cuervo, he's not a shill for Lancaster and he's not Jae-Hova.
Originally Posted By gs430:
Jesus Christ, relax guys....I know Mr. Cuervo, he's not a shill for Lancaster and he's not Jae-Hova.
Yeah, you're probably right.
Lots of people with brand new Arfcom accounts start Lancaster threads for their very first post, then oddly stop using any capitalization in the middle of their own threads, and then never show up on Arfcom again.
Mrcuervo and Jae-Hova's personas are complete and total coincidences, I'm sure.
I'm detecting some sarcasm there Stephen. Did you catch the part where I said "
I know Mr. Cuervo"? Because if you did, are you now calling me a liar?
And if you read both of their posts, you'll see they're quite different.
Originally Posted By StephenNW:
Originally Posted By gs430:
Jesus Christ, relax guys....I know Mr. Cuervo, he's not a shill for Lancaster and he's not Jae-Hova.
Yeah, you're probably right.
Lots of people with brand new Arfcom accounts start Lancaster threads for their very first post, then oddly stop using any capitalization in the middle of their own threads, and then never show up on Arfcom again.
Mrcuervo and Jae-Hova's personas are complete and total coincidences, I'm sure.
Stephen has a history of trying to call people out. He did it to me when I had questions about lancaster
I'd rather just give the benefit of the doubt to the person here asking the original questions, that they aren't a secret mole spying for the company. The reason I do that is because I can't possibly see any benefit in asking questions as to whether a company might be in business, followed by questions regarding what he has, other than helping a guy figure out what he has and if it's worth anything, or if he can trust the company that built it. It's a contextual thing. Even if these people are secret moles who capitalize sometimes and then not other times, in this case, I see no benefit to the spy in receiving honest, responsive answers. I'm confidant that even if the owner of Lancaster or a representative spy working on his behalf, gained secret missile codes and all the lists of all the agents who ever served in the CIA, and the formula to coca cola, through some nefarious posting on an internet forum, he'd still never be able to reestablish himself again in what appears to me to be an extremely careful group of gun owners, who go to great lengths to confirm the quality of AK builders for all of us. So I'm sure a little info on a company and it's rifles will only benefit an honest OP, and not help a secret mole one bit. Now I have seen guys here catch moles in the act of trying to push their products and I love it, but in this case, I see no reason for caution and frankly, it's a little off-putting to see a vocal minority be so suspicious of someone who just asked a question about a rifle company. Trust first, and as the conversation develops, if you see some red flags, go for it. But what I see over the years also causes me to not want to post, is this questioning of the motives of the questioner to a fault. It only leads to people on the other end shaking their heads and saying a loud "f*** it, why bother asking?" After all, most of us aren't doing this stuff for a living and most of us can't possibly know all the little details and nuances of every AK builder and most of us are just reading stuff here during a break in our lives because it's the only time we can read about what we'd rather be doing rather than what we have to do. The worst thing you could possibly create in a forum like this is hesitation to ask questions.
Originally Posted By Dr-Rosenfetus:
It only leads to people on the other end shaking their heads and saying a loud "f*** it, why bother asking?"
It's funny that you mention this...I emailed my buddy (the OP) and told him "Well one thing you'll learn is NOT to post on AR15.com".
Just check their status with the BBB and their "F" rating they hold.
Yup, there's a company to do business with.
Originally Posted By gs430:
I'm detecting some sarcasm there Stephen. Did you catch the part where I said "
I know Mr. Cuervo"? Because if you did, are you now calling me a liar?
And if you read both of their posts, you'll see they're quite different.
Originally Posted By StephenNW:
Originally Posted By gs430:
Jesus Christ, relax guys....I know Mr. Cuervo, he's not a shill for Lancaster and he's not Jae-Hova.
Yeah, you're probably right.
Lots of people with brand new Arfcom accounts start Lancaster threads for their very first post, then oddly stop using any capitalization in the middle of their own threads, and then never show up on Arfcom again.
Mrcuervo and Jae-Hova's personas are complete and total coincidences, I'm sure.
No, I didn't call you a liar. All I did was point out a pattern of things that struck me as being unusual. And yes, I will say it again: Two people opening brand new Arfcom accounts within one month, both asking about Lancaster as their first and only posts, and both sharing a unique and unusual writing style where they abandon using any capital letters as the thread evolves, strikes me as odd.
As you no doubt noticed, some other people thought this was strange too. If you don't agree that these similarities are odd, so be it. People can, and will, arrive at their own conclusions.
I just think you have too much time on your hands.
relax
thanks to the other members who give me the benefit of the doubt.
would you like me to email you my LAV AK operaters course certificate?
how about having LAV say yes this is so and so and he's doesn't represent Lancaster Arms.
how do i know you don't work for Lancaster Arms?