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 VZ58 as one and only 7.62x39mm AK type rifle?
Steve_Canyon  [Member]
7/1/2009 6:16:28 AM
I have thinned out my arsenal considerably. Essentially, if it isn't a Glock 9mm, AR Carbine or Benelli 12 gauge I don't own it any more. The only exception to this is my SLR107CR. Everyone should own an AK, we all know the reasons why I so I won't go into it.

However, I have been considering selling my Arsenal and getting a VZ58 folder instead. I am quite familiar with this weapon and fully understand it has only caliber in common with an AK. It does, however fill the same general role as the AK and I feel like my 7.62x39 duty could be served just fine with such a weapon.

One downside I see of having a VZ58 as my only AK type weapon is the obscurity of parts/components. If I went forward, I would try to purchase 16-20, 30 round magazines and a spare carrier group. I feel this would be a near life-time supply of components.

What do you guys think about this? In terms of quality, how would you compare a VZ58 to my SLR107CR. I know its not apples to apples, but I would be interested in hearing your opinions. I think the VZ58 is a very cool and great performing rifle. I am especially impressed with its long and favorable international military service. To me, it says alot when an AKM armed nation chooses the VZ58 for their elite soldiers.

Sell the SLR107CR and have a VZ58 as my "one and only" x39mm AK type rifle?
strat81  [Team Member]
7/1/2009 10:07:02 AM
Originally Posted By Steve_Canyon:
I have thinned out my arsenal considerably. Essentially, if it isn't a Glock 9mm, AR Carbine or Benelli 12 gauge I don't own it any more. The only exception to this is my SLR107CR. Everyone should own an AK, we all know the reasons why I so I won't go into it.

However, I have been considering selling my Arsenal and getting a VZ58 folder instead. I am quite familiar with this weapon and fully understand it has only caliber in common with an AK. It does, however fill the same general role as the AK and I feel like my 7.62x39 duty could be served just fine with such a weapon.

One downside I see of having a VZ58 as my only AK type weapon is the obscurity of parts/components. If I went forward, I would try to purchase 16-20, 30 round magazines and a spare carrier group. I feel this would be a near life-time supply of components.


What role would that be?

Hunting? Plinking? Competition? HD? Bug out? Collecting? Other?
nictra  [Team Member]
7/1/2009 10:15:42 AM
While I own a 107CR also, and it happens to be my absolute favorite gun, the VZ58 has caught my eye also. While I won't sell my 107CR, I am tempted to pick one of these up. I have heard nothing but good things about these rifles. If you do trade, you already know about mags not being interchangeable etc. I would buy a ton of mags like you stated, a ton of ammo, and go ahead and buy a parts kit, they're relatively cheap and will contain all the spare parts you will need. Good luck and post pics when you get em!
TVLL62CAL  [Team Member]
7/1/2009 12:09:34 PM
very intriguing rifle, however until they start to produce them with metal triggers and safety's that are 922r compliant...i would pass.....
Emegbers  [Member]
7/1/2009 12:45:14 PM
I wanted a VZ58 very badly. I was very interested in them, and thought they looked fun. Then I fondled one at a gunshow, and said no thanks. For me, it was uncomfortable even to hold. It just felt small and weird when I shouldered it, I can't quite describe it. I've heard they are amazing weapons, but they just aren't for me.
buckmeister  [Team Member]
7/1/2009 1:18:37 PM
Originally Posted By TVLL62CAL:
very intriguing rifle, however until they start to produce them with metal triggers and safety's that are 922r compliant...i would pass.....


Bingo!

buckmeister
Mal_means_bad  [Member]
7/1/2009 1:42:25 PM
I love mine. The only problem I had was that the plastic butt plate on the fixed stock would slide off my shoulder after a few rounds. I threw a limbsaver on there and now it shoulders and feels great. Parts are available and very reasonable.
Farmer-Ted  [Member]
7/1/2009 6:50:52 PM
Originally Posted By Mal_means_bad:
I love mine. The only problem I had was that the plastic butt plate on the fixed stock would slide off my shoulder after a few rounds. I threw a limbsaver on there and now it shoulders and feels great. Parts are available and very reasonable.


Hmmm... mine has a metal butt plate.
Kurush  [Member]
7/1/2009 6:57:39 PM
well they use a different (and somewhat hard to find) mag so they would be less useful than an AK in a zombie situation in that it's harder to replace parts
dtom29  [Member]
7/1/2009 10:25:26 PM
I'm not a gun seller, I wouldn't sell the AK that you have now but if you can pick up a VZ you won't be sorry. They are really nice rifles. I consider them a more refined AK. I like my AK's but I sure will have one or two more VZ's when all this panic is over.
JOHNO  [Team Member]
7/1/2009 10:42:02 PM
The VZ58 is a Great rifle, I would'nt hesitate to pick one over an AK. If the plastic trigger bothers you, there is a Guy making a steel trigger for under 30.00. Mags are readily avaliable as well as spare parts, the VZ 58 is light, fast to deploy and ergonomic.
Ky_Bob  [Team Member]
7/1/2009 11:11:10 PM
Originally Posted By JOHNO:
The VZ58 is a Great rifle, I would'nt hesitate to pick one over an AK. If the plastic trigger bothers you, there is a Guy making a steel trigger for under 30.00. Mags are readily avaliable as well as spare parts, the VZ 58 is light, fast to deploy and ergonomic.


I love my VZ58. Who is this guy who makes metal triggers?

ronin556  [Member]
7/2/2009 1:10:22 AM
Ohio rapid fire makes steel trigger parts for the VZ-58. I have the one with the plastic trigger and it is fine, it does not effect trigger pull.

My AUG, FS2000, PS90 all have plastic triggers as well, and that also does not bother me
JOHNO  [Team Member]
7/2/2009 1:24:27 PM
Here's a link to the triggers,

http://www.theakforum.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=828928&highlight=#828928

This thread reminded me that I had bought one of the steel triggers and have'nt installed it,.....so thats what I've been for the past hour. Very well made but I had to do a bit of hand fitting, now its good to go.
nickg_houston  [Team Member]
7/2/2009 5:03:25 PM
My VZ 58 is my favorite rifle. I put a FAB Defense rail on the front with an EOTech. I have put about 500 rounds through it with excellent accuracy.



I bought 10 extra mags so I am good to go. Out of my AR, my AK, and this, if I could only keep one it would be this one, but thats just my opinion.
Aimless  [Site Staff]
7/2/2009 8:04:01 PM
Eh crap, they don't take ak mags? Bleh, too much of a pia to have one in NY. Too bad as I was just looking at them
dtom29  [Member]
7/2/2009 9:43:45 PM


You can get 4 mags and a pouch from Copes for $60.00. Not that hard to find.
JOHNO  [Team Member]
7/2/2009 10:01:42 PM
Here's something to look at



Me shooting the VZ58 last Winter,

Aimless  [Site Staff]
7/2/2009 10:29:50 PM

Originally Posted By dtom29:


You can get 4 mags and a pouch from Copes for $60.00. Not that hard to find.

Copes doesn't seem to have them now, other places won't ship to NY (I assume the mags in country are pre ban...) I REALLY don't need another rifle anyway
Ky_Bob  [Team Member]
7/2/2009 11:05:02 PM
Originally Posted By Aimless:

Originally Posted By dtom29:


You can get 4 mags and a pouch from Copes for $60.00. Not that hard to find.

Copes doesn't seem to have them now, other places won't ship to NY (I assume the mags in country are pre ban...) I REALLY don't need another rifle anyway


I think you are confused. You DO need another rifle.



Tipsovr  [Team Member]
7/4/2009 12:28:10 AM
I had a few Ak's and loved them, swore by them. Bought a VZ 58 after reading a few reviews. Sold all my AK's and now own two VZ 58's, 36 mags and two parts kits. These are my SHTF rifles. They are so sweet to shoot. I find them to be more accurate than every AK I have shot.

The con to these things are that they do not have any parts in common with an AK, none. But a parts kit is not bad in price. Shoot one and I think you will not want to put it down.
NoMoAMMO  [Team Member]
7/4/2009 12:35:48 AM
The folder is uncomfortable to me, the fixed is sweet and the thumbhole is even swetter as far as comfort goes!!! (to me)
EricX  [Member]
7/4/2009 1:18:48 AM
[span style='font-weight: bold;']Originally Posted By TVLL62CAL:[/span
very intriguing rifle, however until they start to produce them with metal triggers and safety's that are 922r compliant...i would pass.....


Hmmmm... Glocks and XD's come with polymer triggers and I've never heard of a single problem with them (other than getting used to the trigger safety thing)... remember, the vz.58 is a STRIKER fired system, NOT a HAMMER or conventional AK type so whether the trigger is polymer, steel or made from paper mache is irrelevant... well, maybe not paper mache.
WesJanson  [Member]
7/4/2009 3:08:44 AM
I just went ahead and added a buttpad to my folding stock, primarily to add a little bit of length-of-pull...

If you need spare parts, just order some from Czechpoint: http://www.czechpoint-usa.com/products/spare-parts-and-accessories/vz-58-parts-and-accessories/?list=1