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 Reviving a Zastava PAP, who can do it?
JPNY23  [Member]
6/26/2009 1:29:35 PM EST
Don't have skills to do all the work, besides I want someone to weld an addition to the rear of the receiver so it can take a standard stock. Any suggestions, any reputable builders/smiths?

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Ermac  [Member]
6/26/2009 2:37:21 PM EST
Why didn't you just buy a regular Yugo then?
JPNY23  [Member]
6/26/2009 4:58:21 PM EST
Originally Posted By Ermac:
Why didn't you just buy a regular Yugo then?


Not to be a jerk but that wasn't the question.
Crowcreek  [Member]
6/27/2009 6:51:01 AM EST

It shouldn't be any trouble to find a rear receiver 'stub' from a Yugo M70 kit, cut a 'wedge' to fit, and weld it up.

The rear trunnion would still be slanted, but a little 'Accraglass Gel' would make it fit great.
bergunx  [Member]
6/28/2009 12:34:10 AM EST
JPNY23, I'm thinking about the same thing and I don't have any real info to add other than I "think" that this should be possible since I plan on using the new Zastava PAP rifle and my Century Arms Yugo rifles, a RPK and a folder, in order to have a more correct Zastava AK/military type rifle.

As for the rear-end of the PAP's receiver that has the angled cuts, I'm sure that that can be corrected since there are builder that are welding the cut receivers from the milled Yugo rifle kits back into new semi-auto receivers... If this can be done, I don't see the problem with a skilled builder fixing the rear-end of these receivers back to a more correct military style receiver.

The only serious problem I see would be the magazine area. I haven't inspected the barrel trunnion yet and I could be wrong with this information, but somebody already stated that the lower area of the trunnion isn't milled out to accept double stacked magazines. If this is true, this would take the most amount of work to correct since I'm pretty sure that part can't be swapped out since the serial number is on that part… PLEASE correct me if I’m wrong!! As for the metal side plates in the well, I'm sure that these can be removed without too much work.

Also, I’m planning on removing the side scope rail system too.

Regardless, I’m hoping to move forward with this project within the next few months... I'm not tooooo worried about any new gun bans to kick in until after the 2010/2012 elections, so I still have a little time to work on this.

To be honest, there is nothing wrong with the Century Arms rifles or the NoDak Spud/DCI receivers they used to build them, but for “MYSELF,” I feel that my current “parts kit guns” will be more correct by using a real Zastava receiver to go with the other real Zastava military styled AK parts.

Yes, I know that it will not be the same as the Yugoslavian AK rifles that came into the country back in the 80s, but this will be close enough for me!!
ATLANTIC-FIREARMS  [Industry Partner]
6/28/2009 3:54:07 AM EST
Red Jacket Firearms can work wiht just about any type of AK out there and do some real nice custom work. In the past they did several Russian Vepr Conversions for our firm .

http://www.redstick-firearms.com/


www.atlanticfirearms.com
JPNY23  [Member]
6/28/2009 8:00:47 AM EST
Originally Posted By bergunx:
,” I feel that my current “parts kit guns” will be more correct by using a real Zastava receiver to go with the other real Zastava military styled AK parts.

Yes, I know that it will not be the same as the Yugoslavian AK rifles that came into the country back in the 80s, but this will be close enough for me!!


Thats exactly where I am coming from. Getting a new barrel is also a big plus. Crowcreek mentioned it in a previous reply and I did not even think of getting a receiver stub to mate it to the receiver but that sounds like a really good idea.

I will call Red Stick and ask them if they'll take it. I want to keep the scope rail though, I would like to use it as a hunting rifle for short distances rather than my 30-30, thanks for the info Atlantic.
JIMBEAM  [Team Member]
6/28/2009 9:39:40 AM EST
I think I am just going to try to use an ACE cut the tang block.
Gone_Shootin  [Team Member]
6/28/2009 11:30:06 AM EST
From what I understand, a standard Yugo stock will bolt up anyway, even if you don't fill that cut back in.
197thSTC  [Member]
6/28/2009 11:42:19 AM EST
I am getting ready to do the first batch of 10. I will post pics when we are done.
Lumpy196  [Team Member]
6/28/2009 11:49:39 AM EST
Originally Posted By Ermac:
Why didn't you just buy a regular Yugo then?


Because he wants the quality of unissued new production parts assembled on a factory receiver AT the factory.


Liquidmetal  [Team Member]
6/28/2009 11:50:23 AM EST

Originally Posted By Gone_Shootin:
From what I understand, a standard Yugo stock will bolt up anyway, even if you don't fill that cut back in.

Photos courtesy of Fishpaw:





Personally, I would pursue a slant cut butt stock rather than mess with the receiver (just to keep it simple). That would be good enough for me.
Fishpaw  [Member]
6/28/2009 2:21:44 PM EST
Originally Posted By Gone_Shootin:
From what I understand, a standard Yugo stock will bolt up anyway, even if you don't fill that cut back in.


I posted those pics as a request to someone asking if a regular Yugo butt stock & pistol grip will work.....Ive actually put the thumb hole stock back on, as I already have a few Yugo variations with traditional furniture. Also if/when you get a PAP, try the thumb hole out...its surprisingly well done and actually quite comfortable....
JPNY23  [Member]
6/28/2009 3:30:47 PM EST
Originally Posted By Fishpaw:
Originally Posted By Gone_Shootin:
From what I understand, a standard Yugo stock will bolt up anyway, even if you don't fill that cut back in.


I posted those pics as a request to someone asking if a regular Yugo butt stock & pistol grip will work.....Ive actually put the thumb hole stock back on, as I already have a few Yugo variations with traditional furniture. Also if/when you get a PAP, try the thumb hole out...its surprisingly well done and actually quite comfortable....


Got the PAP, the stock is extremely comfortable for the scope set up. Iron sights are hard to use with it unless you put your cheek toward the rear of the stock or your nose on the dust cover, lol.
VincentYGB  [Member]
6/29/2009 9:58:48 AM EST
I've pretty much decided on the Yugo insert adapter with an Ace folder for the first one (of my two). The Choate Dragonov for a Mac 90 may be a close fit. Neither will look very authentic (I don't really care about that myself) though either stock should make it less ungainly to shoot. The factory thumb hole is nicely done but doesn't lend itself to non-scope shooting ease and another option is to do some wood work on one of them.

BUT-sometimes I hear it whining for an underfolder.

Looking forward to seeing who is going to be first to successfully mill/dremel the front trunnion as I haven't done this serious of a conversion before. I don't have concerns about doing the magwell or latch although this is going to be more involved than my Saiga 12 & 308.
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