Cleaning - Break it down.
I know, I know... There are a thousand threads about how to do this. However somehow, I'm missing something. I am getting a bit of rust in the gas tube and the breach.
Explain it like I'm a 4 year old.
Here's what I have to work with... Century 74, CLP, bronze bore brush, rod, patches, rem oil spray, and toothbrush. I also have the loop attachment, and what I assume is a jag, although, embarrassingly, I don't know just what that is. It's a universal kit, but the loop, and the jag don't fit. To use the patches, I use a straightened clothes hanger.
Step 1 - disassemble
Step 2 - ?? Flush barrel, receiver, gas tube, bolt and gas piston with hot water? How much water? How do I know I've flushed, swished, soaked enough?
When do I use my bore bush? Do I use the brush with a dry barrel or after water, or after solvent? Patch with oil down the barrel when done?
Step 3 - ?? Lube with remoil? Entire receiver, bolt carrier, bolt, gas piston, gas tube? Do I need oil after CLP? When and what do I toothbrush. CLP doesn't really dry quite like gun scrubber does it? So is a toothbrush really effective, or needed?
Step 4 - Reassemble
Treat me like I'm stupid. Spell it out step by step. What steps am I missing. I'm thick skinned and thick headed. Help me out. It'll help out others as well.
Thanks
I got lost with the water flush. Dish washer cleaning is not recomended. This is an AR-15 or some variant, right?
Perhaps a little more information is needed.
Step 1 - disassemble. CHECK
Step 2 - ?? Flush barrel, receiver, gas tube, bolt and gas piston with hot water? How much water? How do I know I've flushed, swished, soaked enough? WTF!!!![://[://
Step 2a. Soak bolt and carrier in CLP and use wire brush (or tooth brush) to remove fouling. Clean and reassemble bolt and carrier. Lube with CLP or my favorite Slip 2000.
Step 2b. Soak a patch in CLP or Slip 2000 and using a jag (of the appropriate size) run the patch from the BREACH end NOT the muzzle (where the bullet comes out) and get the bore good and wet with the CLP or Slip 2000. Let stand for a few minutes to let the magic happen, then run a bore brush of the correct through the bore several times.
Step 2c. Take a clean patch with CLP or Slip2000 on it and using the jag push the patch through the bore from the breach end to the muzzle end (Where the bullets come out). Do not pull back through the bore but repeat until the patch comes out clean. This could take a while.
When a clean patch is seen you're done.
The tooth brush is used to clean the bolt lugs and other hard to reach areas.
Step 3 - ?? Lube with remoilCLP or Slip 2000? Entire receiver, bolt carrier, bolt, gas piston, (gas tube. Not necessary) Do I need oil after CLP? CLP is oil. When and what do I toothbrush. See step 2c.
CLP doesn't really dry quite like gun scrubber does it? (Gun Scrubber is NOT a lubricant but rather a very strong solvent. Be careful not to use the version of Gun Scrubber that is not for plastic. I learned the hard way about how easy it can dissolve plastic.
Step 4 - Reassemble CHECK.
Originally Posted By Shadeaux:
I got lost with the water flush. Dish washer cleaning is not recomended. This is an AR-15 or some variant, right?
Perhaps a little more information is needed.
No. Century AK 74, non chrome lined barrel shooting corrosive milsurp ammo. Everyone else says flush it out or let it sit in hot water to wash out the corrosive salts.
Step 1: Im sure you know how to do this
Step 2: I'm no expert but I have looked into how to clean after shooting corrosive ammo because I thought I had bought some. Here are two really helpful articles that give a lot of detail like you asked.
Article 1
Article 2 (with pictures) Since this is not for an AK just fyi, you can also spray what he is mentioning down the gas tube. I would also clean for corrosive on the rest of my ak (piston, bolt, hammer etc.) and then dry really throughly just to be safe.
Step 3: As for the regular cleaning just field strip your AK clean out all the junk out of all parts. Grease or oil all points where there is metal to metal contact. Run some clp down the bore using a patch moderately soaked in clp. Lastly make sure that the piston and gas tube are dry meaning you should NOT put oil or grease on these parts.
Step 4: Im sure you know what your doing with this also.
Originally Posted By valid_board_name:
Everyone else says flush it out or let it sit in hot water to wash out the corrosive salts.
Flush with water, don't let it sit in water.
The salts are water soluable. Flushing with water will disolve the salts and carry them away. Letting the parts sit in water MAY allow the disolved salts to redeposit on the metal. When the water evaporates, the salts are left behind to begin absorbing water and causing corrosion.
@Griffon
Step 3 - The gas tube seems to be where I have a bit of rust forming. Shouldn't I remoil or CLP? Why should those parts run dry?
Originally Posted By valid_board_name:
@Griffon
Step 3 - The gas tube seems to be where I have a bit of rust forming. Shouldn't I remoil or CLP? Why should those parts run dry?
The piston and tube are subjected to repeated blasts of gas at high temperature and pressure when fired, and oil will merely bake on and add to the fouling. Damage can also result to the gas tube, depending on the type of oil used. In my Arsenal manual it even specifically states in BOLD to make sure these parts are dry. I’m not home so I cant scan and put it up however here’s a forum link with a excerpt from an Arsenal SLR95 manual, just scroll down until you see a picture:
Manual
Now of course you want to flush both of these parts with hot water/ other methods suggested to clean out the corrosives but after your COMPLETELY done cleaning these two parts make sure they are dry and without oil. As far as getting rid of the rust that is alreadly built up heres a thread on here where someone put up some information on it.
Rust Cleaning