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 Looking for a better rivet tool
handyman  [Member]
7/13/2006 10:45:21 PM
Hi Guys, I keep going to the ak builder site looking at the rivet tool that is coming soon, but it hasn't come for a while now. Is there something similar out there that can do a better job than my home made crushers, and also do the countersink. That ak builder jig looks fine and I'ld spend the money on something that does a professional looking job. My Ak's rivets look nasty. I must redo them and get the receiver reparkerized. thanks for your time
scott
wesa2  [Member]
7/15/2006 10:20:19 AM
You could try aircraft rivet tools. I have never seen one in person or used one, but they look like they would work. The only concern I would have is if the mouth would be wide enough for some of the rivets. You can find them on the net for like $120 or so and EBay for less than $100.



Just do a search on EBay for rivet squeezer and you will find some with die sets.

Hope this helps.
Scharfschutz  [Member]
7/15/2006 1:44:36 PM
I would hold up and keep an eye on ak-builder's website. I talked to Curtis this week and he is in the process of getting some done.

I have modified bolt cutters and both of Plinkers jigs (for short and long rivets) and I am eager to acquire one of the new Ak-buider rivet jigs. The Plinker jig does give nice results but every now and then it leaves a slight mark on the receiver from the rectangular bars you use to support the rivet head. Curtis' new jig should eliminate that.

Again, I would check his site daily and be ready to move on one. I doubt it'll be more than a few weeks now.
handyman  [Member]
7/15/2006 2:59:39 PM
Thanks for the info. I've checked out the aircraft squeezers and the head looks to be on the wrong side for our purposes, so I emailed Curtis yesterday. I'm hoping its not to long. I can wait, it will be worth it. I also emailed Plinker to see if he is making anymore. I guessing he is probably not. Thanks again
Scharfschutz  [Member]
7/15/2006 3:14:33 PM
FWIW, calling Curtis is a much better proposition then emailing him. In my dealings with him he prefers calls to emails, and I believe his website states so in a couple of places.

Plinker puts a few out every now and then and they usually go to Curtis or some other distributor. I got my Plinker jigs thru Curtis.

handyman  [Member]
7/16/2006 10:20:42 PM
thanks for the heads up I'll call Curtis in the am scott
rockhound66  [Member]
7/17/2006 11:40:05 AM
The aircraft hand rivet tool works great on ALUMINUM rivets, I tried standard steel AK rivets and faild to get the proper crush. I moved onto a tandem cyl HD pneumatic "c" squease and it worked great. Unfortunately you have to build about two dozen AK's to offset the $540 cost. Oh well out to the shop.
FREEFALLE7  [Team Member]
7/17/2006 9:32:34 PM
Just get a 12 ton press and make yourself a Plinker jig.



medicmandan  [Team Member]
7/17/2006 9:41:03 PM

Originally Posted By rockhound66:
The aircraft hand rivet tool works great on ALUMINUM rivets, I tried standard steel AK rivets and faild to get the proper crush. I moved onto a tandem cyl HD pneumatic "c" squease and it worked great. Unfortunately you have to build about two dozen AK's to offset the $540 cost. Oh well out to the shop.


And the negative side to this is what?
GAU5-A-A  [Member]
7/18/2006 3:26:42 AM

Originally Posted By rockhound66:
The aircraft hand rivet tool works great on ALUMINUM rivets, I tried standard steel AK rivets and faild to get the proper crush. I moved onto a tandem cyl HD pneumatic "c" squease and it worked great. Unfortunately you have to build about two dozen AK's to offset the $540 cost. Oh well out to the shop.


Quite correct.

I do aircraft structural repairs, and the hand operated rivet squeezer shown above (and varies similar models) have a limit of 1/8" diameter aluminum rivets of alloy 2117.

There is another style of hand riveter, where both handles pivot against the plunger/anvil, and these type will squeeze a 3/16 dia aluminum, or 5/32 dia steel rivet. They are made by Roper-Whitney, and sell for around $200 on ebay, although seldom seen. You would probably also need several different heads, as well as rivet sets.

You could try to find a gun-friendly aircraft sheet metal guy, like me, to solve your riveting problems. I have 17 pneumatic rivet squeezers, and about 300 other riveting/structural tools. Riveting an AK is all of 30 minutes work with the right tools.


handyman  [Member]
7/18/2006 12:24:26 PM
I just talked to Curtis yesterday in the a.m. . He said his supplies are starting to come in so it should be around the end of the month when he starts to get them together. Can't wait to clean up my AK's. They fire great but the rivets look like a rookie did them, which I am.
Stickerman  [Member]
7/18/2006 7:33:13 PM
The hardened steel came in today for the pieces that will cup the rivets as well as put the dimples into the receiver. The CNC shop said they should be done with those at the end of the month. The other pieces are waiting for me to get a custom made tapping attatchment for my CNC mill since it isn't set up to rigid tap.

The bases with the tubes are being Tig welded and should be done anytime.

Be patient and get good quality tools.

Curtis
handyman  [Member]
7/21/2006 12:09:56 AM
Thanks again Curtis scott in Salt Lake
bigbird1  [Member]
7/24/2006 7:06:09 AM

very nice picture of a rivet press, but how do you get a tap through a grade 8 bolt? not having any luck this is my second one. thanks





Originally Posted By FREEFALLE7:

Just get a 12 ton press and make yourself a Plinker jig.

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jjk308  [Member]
7/25/2006 8:30:27 PM
Made the rivet tool type of http://www.gunsgutsandgod.com/ from a 24 in harbor Freight boltcutter.
It's got more metal in it than Pookies, uses a ground out piece of metal over the rivet head to buck it. The same piece can be used on all rivet heads to avoid deforming them. I also use his trigger rivet jig.
And for the countersunk rivets I put a 1/2 in drill in the drill press, ran it against the receiver/trunion until the receiver hole got hot and countersunk into the trunion. take it easy or you'll just rout out the hole.
Then make sure you've got pressure on the rivet head, squeezing it into the receiver when you squash the rivet.
First build and the rivets look professional.