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How long dose it take you to clean your AR.
1/27/2012 10:32:04 PM
Like the title how long do you spend cleaning your AR. Also do you where gloves if so what type.
1/27/2012 10:40:16 PM
Half hour or so? Usually watching TV or something in the background. I usually put on latex gloves once I start lubing the various parts.
1/27/2012 10:44:12 PM
You're supposed to clean them? 
1/27/2012 10:46:17 PM
Depends on what level of clean your talking about.
Field clean, 10 to 15 minutes.
Entire weapon, about an half hour.
White glove clean, about an hour.
If I'm in the work shop I usually wear surgical gloves.
Field clean, 10 to 15 minutes.
Entire weapon, about an half hour.
White glove clean, about an hour.
If I'm in the work shop I usually wear surgical gloves.
1/27/2012 10:58:18 PM
Entire weapon. When I use wolf or sliver bear it takes me about two hours but thats not just sitting there cleaning the kids dont let me have that much time but any other ammo about hour but my old lady keeps jumping my ass saying I spend to much time on it thats why i ask. I use surgical gloves when I use solvent but they get ate up from the solvent so I was seeing if there was anything better to use or that will hold up longer.
1/27/2012 11:03:34 PM
longer than any other gun I own
1/27/2012 11:03:42 PM
5-10 minutes.
Pretty much just run a bore snake through the barrel, knock off excess junk from the bcg, wipe everything down with a rag, relube and put it back together. I do this every few thousand rounds. I never do the white glove clean thing anymore. I clean the gun when it needs to be cleaned, not just because it was fired.
Pretty much just run a bore snake through the barrel, knock off excess junk from the bcg, wipe everything down with a rag, relube and put it back together. I do this every few thousand rounds. I never do the white glove clean thing anymore. I clean the gun when it needs to be cleaned, not just because it was fired.
1/27/2012 11:07:14 PM
If i'm trying to get it really clean such as its going to be put into storage for a few months or a year it can take me over an hour.
If i'm going shooting again next week then less than 10-mintes.
If i'm going shooting again next week then less than 10-mintes.
1/27/2012 11:52:30 PM
Originally Posted By five821:
Entire weapon. When I use wolf or sliver bear it takes me about two hours but thats not just sitting there cleaning the kids dont let me have that much time but any other ammo about hour but my old lady keeps jumping my ass saying I spend to much time on it thats why i ask. I use surgical gloves when I use solvent but they get ate up from the solvent so I was seeing if there was anything better to use or that will hold up longer.
Entire weapon. When I use wolf or sliver bear it takes me about two hours but thats not just sitting there cleaning the kids dont let me have that much time but any other ammo about hour but my old lady keeps jumping my ass saying I spend to much time on it thats why i ask. I use surgical gloves when I use solvent but they get ate up from the solvent so I was seeing if there was anything better to use or that will hold up longer.
That is some dirty ass ammo. I wouldn't fire that through my DI AR, I can see why it's taking you so long to clean. If you want to shoot that crap on a regular basis get a piston driven AR. I only have one DI AR left the rest are pistons. I've gotten spoiled cleaning them, soooo much easier.
1/30/2012 10:32:13 PM
Ya i have an adams arms and pretty much pulling out the piston and wiping it off is good so a quick clean 2 minutes but usually 5 or 10.
1/31/2012 10:57:19 AM
I spend about an hour, not because I think I need to (I don't), but because I like to. I usually don't wear gloves, but I use Slip 2000 for most cleaning. If I'm sing something stronger like Hoppes #9 I will use Mr. Clean Nitrile gloves, they hold up well to solvents.
1/31/2012 11:07:15 AM
Hoppes #9 is strong? typical after range cleaning time for me is about 20 minutes. Thats barrel, BCG, break, and inside the upper, relube and reassemble. A good rod, Patches, Hoppes, dental picks, and Q-tips. Oil the bore, lube the BCG, and done.
1/31/2012 11:15:12 AM
Originally Posted By five821:
Entire weapon. When I use wolf or sliver bear it takes me about two hours but thats not just sitting there cleaning the kids dont let me have that much time but any other ammo about hour but my old lady keeps jumping my ass saying I spend to much time on it thats why i ask. I use surgical gloves when I use solvent but they get ate up from the solvent so I was seeing if there was anything better to use or that will hold up longer.
Entire weapon. When I use wolf or sliver bear it takes me about two hours but thats not just sitting there cleaning the kids dont let me have that much time but any other ammo about hour but my old lady keeps jumping my ass saying I spend to much time on it thats why i ask. I use surgical gloves when I use solvent but they get ate up from the solvent so I was seeing if there was anything better to use or that will hold up longer.
Nitril Gloves Work very well. They hold up to the solvents and don't dissolve like latex gloves.
1/31/2012 11:35:32 AM
Originally Posted By harmanrk:
Hoppes #9 is strong?
Hoppes #9 is strong?
Strong enough that i don't want it soaking into my skin.
1/31/2012 8:16:23 PM
What doesn't kill you will make you stronger 
1/31/2012 9:35:59 PM
Originally Posted By CTbuilder1:
5-10 minutes.
Pretty much just run a bore snake through the barrel, knock off excess junk from the bcg, wipe everything down with a rag, relube and put it back together. I do this every few thousand rounds. I never do the white glove clean thing anymore. I clean the gun when it needs to be cleaned, not just because it was fired.
5-10 minutes.
Pretty much just run a bore snake through the barrel, knock off excess junk from the bcg, wipe everything down with a rag, relube and put it back together. I do this every few thousand rounds. I never do the white glove clean thing anymore. I clean the gun when it needs to be cleaned, not just because it was fired.
This.
2/3/2012 12:46:23 AM
not wearing gloves while cleaning fire arms over my lifetime is the reason i only get a cold once every 3 years.....
Originally Posted By Captains1911:
Strong enough that i don't want it soaking into my skin.
Originally Posted By harmanrk:
Hoppes #9 is strong?
Hoppes #9 is strong?
Strong enough that i don't want it soaking into my skin.
2/3/2012 2:57:35 AM
I just take my time and do other stuff, but if I were trying to get things done "fast" I could clean it rather thoroughly (not quite white-glove) in about 15 minutes. I wipe it all off with a paper-towel, and clean the bore with a brush and cotton patches. I use Froglube for everything and don't bother with gloves. I'm not sure how good of a copper-solvent FL is, but it took the brass-marks off my shell deflector very nicely, so maybe it does some, maybe not. If it doesn't, will resort back to foaming bore cleaner for that purpose, but my Noveske doesn't get copper fouling, really. Most other AR's I have owned will turn FBC blue. My Noveske doesn't. Wierd, but I like it!
2/3/2012 3:05:54 AM
takes me maybe 20 minutes, watching tv and talking to wife... not getting it spottless but pretty clean.. I use nitrile gloves also.. cuz if they can hold up to chemotherapy chems im sure they can hold up to some #9... I also use slip2000
2/3/2012 5:21:27 AM
Just tested it, Froglube does NOT remove copper in any way that I can tell. Just tried it on my P226 357SIG barrel, which is a total copper whore, and it made no difference what-so-ever in its appearance.
2/3/2012 6:39:02 AM
I wear nitrile gloves and I don't spend too much time cleaning my firearms.
2/3/2012 3:11:35 PM
Originally Posted By SureShot1313:
not wearing gloves while cleaning fire arms over my lifetime is the reason i only get a cold once every 3 years.....
not wearing gloves while cleaning fire arms over my lifetime is the reason i only get a cold once every 3 years.....
Originally Posted By Captains1911:
Strong enough that i don't want it soaking into my skin.
Originally Posted By harmanrk:
Hoppes #9 is strong?
Hoppes #9 is strong?
Strong enough that i don't want it soaking into my skin.
Not sure if I see the connection. I wear gloves and get sick even less. I also wash my hands frequently.
2/3/2012 6:48:12 PM
takes me 10 minutes or so, i usually just wipe the bolt carrier group down and run a patch or two through the bore, do a quick scrubbing of the chamber since i use wolf, and wipe down the inside the upper
2/3/2012 7:35:34 PM
I'm slow. It took me 2 hours today. 1000 round clean and lube, BCG under a magnifier.
I's gonna get it dirty again, tomorrow.
I's gonna get it dirty again, tomorrow.
2/4/2012 12:19:10 AM
10 minutes - 1 hour
Depends on what I'm doing and what kind of results I'm going for. Cleaning is done at a leisurely pace while watching TV. No gloves.
Depends on what I'm doing and what kind of results I'm going for. Cleaning is done at a leisurely pace while watching TV. No gloves.
2/4/2012 10:31:07 AM
Originally Posted By CTbuilder1:
5-10 minutes.
Pretty much just run a bore snake through the barrel, knock off excess junk from the bcg, wipe everything down with a rag, relube and put it back together. I do this every few thousand rounds. I never do the white glove clean thing anymore. I clean the gun when it needs to be cleaned, not just because it was fired.
5-10 minutes.
Pretty much just run a bore snake through the barrel, knock off excess junk from the bcg, wipe everything down with a rag, relube and put it back together. I do this every few thousand rounds. I never do the white glove clean thing anymore. I clean the gun when it needs to be cleaned, not just because it was fired.
This is why I will never buy a used AR (not that you were selling).
Takes me about an hour. "Arms room clean" every time. Now if I was going to shoot it the next day or so maybe not, but that level of clean every time. I've had friends chide me about my cleaning regimen but then say they wouldn't hesitate to buy a weapon from me 'cause they know how I keep them.
YMMV.
2/4/2012 10:43:52 AM
Originally Posted By ABNAK:
This is why I will never buy a used AR (not that you were selling).
Takes me about an hour. "Arms room clean" every time. Now if I was going to shoot it the next day or so maybe not, but that level of clean every time. I've had friends chide me about my cleaning regimen but then say they wouldn't hesitate to buy a weapon from me 'cause they know how I keep them.
YMMV.
Originally Posted By CTbuilder1:
5-10 minutes.
Pretty much just run a bore snake through the barrel, knock off excess junk from the bcg, wipe everything down with a rag, relube and put it back together. I do this every few thousand rounds. I never do the white glove clean thing anymore. I clean the gun when it needs to be cleaned, not just because it was fired.
5-10 minutes.
Pretty much just run a bore snake through the barrel, knock off excess junk from the bcg, wipe everything down with a rag, relube and put it back together. I do this every few thousand rounds. I never do the white glove clean thing anymore. I clean the gun when it needs to be cleaned, not just because it was fired.
This is why I will never buy a used AR (not that you were selling).
Takes me about an hour. "Arms room clean" every time. Now if I was going to shoot it the next day or so maybe not, but that level of clean every time. I've had friends chide me about my cleaning regimen but then say they wouldn't hesitate to buy a weapon from me 'cause they know how I keep them.
YMMV.
I would just buy a new AR over one that was cleaned more than it was shot. Seriously, if you put 3 mags through your AR and then spend an hour cleaning it, you are just wasting your time. If I spent an hour to clean my AR at this point, it would look no different than yours (on the inside anyways). It's just that I didn't waste all that time cumulatively over the years.
2/4/2012 11:07:48 AM
Originally Posted By CTbuilder1:
I would just buy a new AR over one that was cleaned more than it was shot. Seriously, if you put 3 mags through your AR and then spend an hour cleaning it, you are just wasting your time. If I spent an hour to clean my AR at this point, it would look no different than yours (on the inside anyways). It's just that I didn't waste all that time cumulatively over the years.
Originally Posted By ABNAK:
This is why I will never buy a used AR (not that you were selling).
Takes me about an hour. "Arms room clean" every time. Now if I was going to shoot it the next day or so maybe not, but that level of clean every time. I've had friends chide me about my cleaning regimen but then say they wouldn't hesitate to buy a weapon from me 'cause they know how I keep them.
YMMV.
Originally Posted By CTbuilder1:
5-10 minutes.
Pretty much just run a bore snake through the barrel, knock off excess junk from the bcg, wipe everything down with a rag, relube and put it back together. I do this every few thousand rounds. I never do the white glove clean thing anymore. I clean the gun when it needs to be cleaned, not just because it was fired.
5-10 minutes.
Pretty much just run a bore snake through the barrel, knock off excess junk from the bcg, wipe everything down with a rag, relube and put it back together. I do this every few thousand rounds. I never do the white glove clean thing anymore. I clean the gun when it needs to be cleaned, not just because it was fired.
This is why I will never buy a used AR (not that you were selling).
Takes me about an hour. "Arms room clean" every time. Now if I was going to shoot it the next day or so maybe not, but that level of clean every time. I've had friends chide me about my cleaning regimen but then say they wouldn't hesitate to buy a weapon from me 'cause they know how I keep them.
YMMV.
I would just buy a new AR over one that was cleaned more than it was shot. Seriously, if you put 3 mags through your AR and then spend an hour cleaning it, you are just wasting your time. If I spent an hour to clean my AR at this point, it would look no different than yours (on the inside anyways). It's just that I didn't waste all that time cumulatively over the years.
I'll give you a "for instance": a guy here I know and have met, Peasant, was at a buddy's shop one day and we were talking about maintenance. He was talking about the bolt tail area and how so many sites claim it's "self limiting" and you don't need to worry about it. So, he left it go for quite a while. When he finally got around to cleaning it there was pitting underneath all that carbon.
Now, would pitting affect the weapon's operation? Unlikely. However, I personally have a problem with allowing such "breakdown" (if you will) on a weapon I paid good $$$ for and is mine. It ain't Uncle Sugar's and I can't get an armorer to just swap out my bolt someday....it's on me to do so and pay for it too.
I am very careful when cleaning. Dewey's coated rod, one of those bore guide thingys that slide into the upper receiver and lock into the lugs, etc. If a chrome lined bore (which is on all of my AR's) can't take a scrubbing with a brass brush there's a problem. Chrome > brass as far as hardness goes. I think the "damage" from over-cleaning you hear about comes from retards doing so like a caveman. Just as I protect my investment by cleaning, I protect it while cleaning.
2/4/2012 4:53:40 PM
No gloves, 10 minutes. Hoppes 9, Breakfree CLP.
2/4/2012 5:20:24 PM
Originally Posted By ABNAK:
I'll give you a "for instance": a guy here I know and have met, Peasant, was at a buddy's shop one day and we were talking about maintenance. He was talking about the bolt tail area and how so many sites claim it's "self limiting" and you don't need to worry about it. So, he left it go for quite a while. When he finally got around to cleaning it there was pitting underneath all that carbon.
Now, would pitting affect the weapon's operation? Unlikely. However, I personally have a problem with allowing such "breakdown" (if you will) on a weapon I paid good $$$ for and is mine. It ain't Uncle Sugar's and I can't get an armorer to just swap out my bolt someday....it's on me to do so and pay for it too.
I am very careful when cleaning. Dewey's coated rod, one of those bore guide thingys that slide into the upper receiver and lock into the lugs, etc. If a chrome lined bore (which is on all of my AR's) can't take a scrubbing with a brass brush there's a problem. Chrome > brass as far as hardness goes. I think the "damage" from over-cleaning you hear about comes from retards doing so like a caveman. Just as I protect my investment by cleaning, I protect it while cleaning.
Originally Posted By CTbuilder1:
I would just buy a new AR over one that was cleaned more than it was shot. Seriously, if you put 3 mags through your AR and then spend an hour cleaning it, you are just wasting your time. If I spent an hour to clean my AR at this point, it would look no different than yours (on the inside anyways). It's just that I didn't waste all that time cumulatively over the years.
Originally Posted By ABNAK:
This is why I will never buy a used AR (not that you were selling).
Takes me about an hour. "Arms room clean" every time. Now if I was going to shoot it the next day or so maybe not, but that level of clean every time. I've had friends chide me about my cleaning regimen but then say they wouldn't hesitate to buy a weapon from me 'cause they know how I keep them.
YMMV.
Originally Posted By CTbuilder1:
5-10 minutes.
Pretty much just run a bore snake through the barrel, knock off excess junk from the bcg, wipe everything down with a rag, relube and put it back together. I do this every few thousand rounds. I never do the white glove clean thing anymore. I clean the gun when it needs to be cleaned, not just because it was fired.
5-10 minutes.
Pretty much just run a bore snake through the barrel, knock off excess junk from the bcg, wipe everything down with a rag, relube and put it back together. I do this every few thousand rounds. I never do the white glove clean thing anymore. I clean the gun when it needs to be cleaned, not just because it was fired.
This is why I will never buy a used AR (not that you were selling).
Takes me about an hour. "Arms room clean" every time. Now if I was going to shoot it the next day or so maybe not, but that level of clean every time. I've had friends chide me about my cleaning regimen but then say they wouldn't hesitate to buy a weapon from me 'cause they know how I keep them.
YMMV.
I would just buy a new AR over one that was cleaned more than it was shot. Seriously, if you put 3 mags through your AR and then spend an hour cleaning it, you are just wasting your time. If I spent an hour to clean my AR at this point, it would look no different than yours (on the inside anyways). It's just that I didn't waste all that time cumulatively over the years.
I'll give you a "for instance": a guy here I know and have met, Peasant, was at a buddy's shop one day and we were talking about maintenance. He was talking about the bolt tail area and how so many sites claim it's "self limiting" and you don't need to worry about it. So, he left it go for quite a while. When he finally got around to cleaning it there was pitting underneath all that carbon.
Now, would pitting affect the weapon's operation? Unlikely. However, I personally have a problem with allowing such "breakdown" (if you will) on a weapon I paid good $$$ for and is mine. It ain't Uncle Sugar's and I can't get an armorer to just swap out my bolt someday....it's on me to do so and pay for it too.
I am very careful when cleaning. Dewey's coated rod, one of those bore guide thingys that slide into the upper receiver and lock into the lugs, etc. If a chrome lined bore (which is on all of my AR's) can't take a scrubbing with a brass brush there's a problem. Chrome > brass as far as hardness goes. I think the "damage" from over-cleaning you hear about comes from retards doing so like a caveman. Just as I protect my investment by cleaning, I protect it while cleaning.
a cleaning every 1k rounds will not leave any pitting on the bolt tail
2/6/2012 10:37:39 PM
Alright so now I know I'm cleaning it to much but I dont know when I will go shooting again thats why I make sure it so clean. In thanks for the info about the gloves I will pick some new ones up this weekend.
2/7/2012 12:45:41 AM
Originally Posted By Captains1911:
Not sure if I see the connection. I wear gloves and get sick even less. I also wash my hands frequently.
Originally Posted By SureShot1313:
not wearing gloves while cleaning fire arms over my lifetime is the reason i only get a cold once every 3 years.....
not wearing gloves while cleaning fire arms over my lifetime is the reason i only get a cold once every 3 years.....
Originally Posted By Captains1911:
Strong enough that i don't want it soaking into my skin.
Originally Posted By harmanrk:
Hoppes #9 is strong?
Hoppes #9 is strong?
Strong enough that i don't want it soaking into my skin.
Not sure if I see the connection. I wear gloves and get sick even less. I also wash my hands frequently.
if your having trouble seeing, you should invest in some glasses. poor vision while handling fire arms could result in unwanted injury or death....as far as gloves, my hands are so calloused and full of motor oil, water beads up and germs die instantly! the ones that do get threw once every 3 years keeps my immune system up to par!
2/7/2012 11:00:13 AM
No gloves...are you suppose to wear them?
Slip three pack...725 degreaser, 2000 bore solvent & 2000 ewl.
About 40 to 60 mintues...depends how OCD i am that day.
Slip three pack...725 degreaser, 2000 bore solvent & 2000 ewl.
About 40 to 60 mintues...depends how OCD i am that day.
2/7/2012 11:18:35 AM
Similar to above. No gloves, all slip2000 products... 725, carbon killer, and gun lube.
30 minutes to 1 hour depending on how much shooting I have done/ cleaning required, varies a bit too based on what I am doing (watching tv in the background or something).
30 minutes to 1 hour depending on how much shooting I have done/ cleaning required, varies a bit too based on what I am doing (watching tv in the background or something).
2/7/2012 1:11:42 PM
10-15 minutes. I use SLIP 2000 EWL to clean and lube with. Pull out BCG quick scrub with toothbrush in upper and BCG, wipe, couple patches down the barrel, lube it all up, assemble and done. Its very fast and easy. No gloves, I use my fingers to spread the lube.
ETA: Only clean about every 1500 rounds or so.
ETA: Only clean about every 1500 rounds or so.
2/7/2012 4:26:08 PM
Originally Posted By sinlessorrow:
a cleaning every 1k rounds will not leave any pitting on the bolt tail
a cleaning every 1k rounds will not leave any pitting on the bolt tail
Guess that depends on how short a period of time you put those thousand downrange. If you shoot frequently and reach that mark in a month or so that may be true. If it takes you 6 months or a year to do so then it may be different. The longer the carbon sits on there the more it has a chance (coupled with humidity if that's the case in your area) to eat into the underlying steel. As far as my friend's bolt I do not know how long he let it sit nor how many rounds total he had fired between cleanings.
2/7/2012 7:55:49 PM
ABNAK asked me to relate my experience with pitting on the bolt tail. I listened to the " the carbon is self limiting so don't worry about cleaning it". Finally got around to scraping that area clean and what do I see but pitting under the carbon. I live in Middle TN and all weapons are stored in the house. It is humid here but not exactly the rainforest. I probably let it go for 6 months. So that bolt is now a spare. The carbon may be "self limiting" but that carbon also seems to hold moisture.
My practice now is to pull the bolt and squirt it with Slip 2000 and reassemble. Or I just squirt Slip in the vent holes and work the bolt back and forth. I'm actually more concerned with keeping the chamber clean. But, the bolt gets lubed from now on.
My practice now is to pull the bolt and squirt it with Slip 2000 and reassemble. Or I just squirt Slip in the vent holes and work the bolt back and forth. I'm actually more concerned with keeping the chamber clean. But, the bolt gets lubed from now on.
2/7/2012 8:00:07 PM
Full tear down/cleaning(including de-coppering the bore) - 45 minutes.
Regular after shooting cleaning - about 10 minutes.
I don't normally bore clean. Usually just clean the chamber and internals.
Regular after shooting cleaning - about 10 minutes.
I don't normally bore clean. Usually just clean the chamber and internals.
2/7/2012 8:13:50 PM
10 to 15 minutes, anything more your wasting your time, the AR does not need to be spotless to run, just check out, BCM's 14.5, what like over 40,000 rounds with only quick wipedowns
it was retarded to sit in the armory all day and cleaning and scurbbing the finish off a rifle while i was in the Marines, its equally as retarded to spend an hour cleaning an AR.
it was retarded to sit in the armory all day and cleaning and scurbbing the finish off a rifle while i was in the Marines, its equally as retarded to spend an hour cleaning an AR.
2/7/2012 11:30:13 PM
Originally Posted By peasant:
ABNAK asked me to relate my experience with pitting on the bolt tail. I listened to the " the carbon is self limiting so don't worry about cleaning it". Finally got around to scraping that area clean and what do I see but pitting under the carbon. I live in Middle TN and all weapons are stored in the house. It is humid here but not exactly the rainforest. I probably let it go for 6 months. So that bolt is now a spare. The carbon may be "self limiting" but that carbon also seems to hold moisture.
My practice now is to pull the bolt and squirt it with Slip 2000 and reassemble. Or I just squirt Slip in the vent holes and work the bolt back and forth. I'm actually more concerned with keeping the chamber clean. But, the bolt gets lubed from now on.
ABNAK asked me to relate my experience with pitting on the bolt tail. I listened to the " the carbon is self limiting so don't worry about cleaning it". Finally got around to scraping that area clean and what do I see but pitting under the carbon. I live in Middle TN and all weapons are stored in the house. It is humid here but not exactly the rainforest. I probably let it go for 6 months. So that bolt is now a spare. The carbon may be "self limiting" but that carbon also seems to hold moisture.
My practice now is to pull the bolt and squirt it with Slip 2000 and reassemble. Or I just squirt Slip in the vent holes and work the bolt back and forth. I'm actually more concerned with keeping the chamber clean. But, the bolt gets lubed from now on.
Thanks.
2/7/2012 11:37:39 PM
Originally Posted By ABNAK:
Guess that depends on how short a period of time you put those thousand downrange. If you shoot frequently and reach that mark in a month or so that may be true. If it takes you 6 months or a year to do so then it may be different. The longer the carbon sits on there the more it has a chance (coupled with humidity if that's the case in your area) to eat into the underlying steel. As far as my friend's bolt I do not know how long he let it sit nor how many rounds total he had fired between cleanings.
Originally Posted By sinlessorrow:
a cleaning every 1k rounds will not leave any pitting on the bolt tail
a cleaning every 1k rounds will not leave any pitting on the bolt tail
Guess that depends on how short a period of time you put those thousand downrange. If you shoot frequently and reach that mark in a month or so that may be true. If it takes you 6 months or a year to do so then it may be different. The longer the carbon sits on there the more it has a chance (coupled with humidity if that's the case in your area) to eat into the underlying steel. As far as my friend's bolt I do not know how long he let it sit nor how many rounds total he had fired between cleanings.
I'd rather just buy a new bolt for $50 than spend an hour cleaning every time I shoot. Time = money as well.
2/7/2012 11:39:09 PM
Originally Posted By m4hk33:
10 to 15 minutes, anything more your wasting your time, the AR does not need to be spotless to run, just check out, BCM's 14.5, what like over 40,000 rounds with only quick wipedowns
it was retarded to sit in the armory all day and cleaning and scurbbing the finish off a rifle while i was in the Marines, its equally as retarded to spend an hour cleaning an AR.
10 to 15 minutes, anything more your wasting your time, the AR does not need to be spotless to run, just check out, BCM's 14.5, what like over 40,000 rounds with only quick wipedowns
it was retarded to sit in the armory all day and cleaning and scurbbing the finish off a rifle while i was in the Marines, its equally as retarded to spend an hour cleaning an AR.
That is correct. However, to store my rifle, and since it's my investment, I prefer to keep it relatively spotless. If I was shooting again the next day or two no biggie, but to be put away for any length of time it gets GI'd.
2/7/2012 11:42:18 PM
Originally Posted By CTbuilder1:
I'd rather just buy a new bolt for $50 than spend an hour cleaning every time I shoot. Time = money as well.
Originally Posted By ABNAK:
Guess that depends on how short a period of time you put those thousand downrange. If you shoot frequently and reach that mark in a month or so that may be true. If it takes you 6 months or a year to do so then it may be different. The longer the carbon sits on there the more it has a chance (coupled with humidity if that's the case in your area) to eat into the underlying steel. As far as my friend's bolt I do not know how long he let it sit nor how many rounds total he had fired between cleanings.
Originally Posted By sinlessorrow:
a cleaning every 1k rounds will not leave any pitting on the bolt tail
a cleaning every 1k rounds will not leave any pitting on the bolt tail
Guess that depends on how short a period of time you put those thousand downrange. If you shoot frequently and reach that mark in a month or so that may be true. If it takes you 6 months or a year to do so then it may be different. The longer the carbon sits on there the more it has a chance (coupled with humidity if that's the case in your area) to eat into the underlying steel. As far as my friend's bolt I do not know how long he let it sit nor how many rounds total he had fired between cleanings.
I'd rather just buy a new bolt for $50 than spend an hour cleaning every time I shoot. Time = money as well.
To each his own. I tend to think in extremes, like say no availability of spare parts for whatever reason. In that guise it would behoove me to keep maintenance up.
2/7/2012 11:47:25 PM
Originally Posted By ABNAK:
To each his own. I tend to think in extremes, like say no availability of spare parts for whatever reason. In that guise it would behoove me to keep maintenance up.
Originally Posted By CTbuilder1:
I'd rather just buy a new bolt for $50 than spend an hour cleaning every time I shoot. Time = money as well.
Originally Posted By ABNAK:
Guess that depends on how short a period of time you put those thousand downrange. If you shoot frequently and reach that mark in a month or so that may be true. If it takes you 6 months or a year to do so then it may be different. The longer the carbon sits on there the more it has a chance (coupled with humidity if that's the case in your area) to eat into the underlying steel. As far as my friend's bolt I do not know how long he let it sit nor how many rounds total he had fired between cleanings.
Originally Posted By sinlessorrow:
a cleaning every 1k rounds will not leave any pitting on the bolt tail
a cleaning every 1k rounds will not leave any pitting on the bolt tail
Guess that depends on how short a period of time you put those thousand downrange. If you shoot frequently and reach that mark in a month or so that may be true. If it takes you 6 months or a year to do so then it may be different. The longer the carbon sits on there the more it has a chance (coupled with humidity if that's the case in your area) to eat into the underlying steel. As far as my friend's bolt I do not know how long he let it sit nor how many rounds total he had fired between cleanings.
I'd rather just buy a new bolt for $50 than spend an hour cleaning every time I shoot. Time = money as well.
To each his own. I tend to think in extremes, like say no availability of spare parts for whatever reason. In that guise it would behoove me to keep maintenance up.
Then pitting on the bolt tail would be the least of my concerns. Cracking at the cam hole would be much higher on the list. All the cleaning on the world isn't going to prevent that. So keep spares around.
2/8/2012 12:06:49 AM
About an hour, but I really go to town.
I hate doing things halfway.
2/8/2012 4:31:02 AM
Originally Posted By CTbuilder1:
Then pitting on the bolt tail would be the least of my concerns. Cracking at the cam hole would be much higher on the list. All the cleaning on the world isn't going to prevent that. So keep spares around.
Originally Posted By ABNAK:
To each his own. I tend to think in extremes, like say no availability of spare parts for whatever reason. In that guise it would behoove me to keep maintenance up.
Originally Posted By CTbuilder1:
I'd rather just buy a new bolt for $50 than spend an hour cleaning every time I shoot. Time = money as well.
Originally Posted By ABNAK:
Guess that depends on how short a period of time you put those thousand downrange. If you shoot frequently and reach that mark in a month or so that may be true. If it takes you 6 months or a year to do so then it may be different. The longer the carbon sits on there the more it has a chance (coupled with humidity if that's the case in your area) to eat into the underlying steel. As far as my friend's bolt I do not know how long he let it sit nor how many rounds total he had fired between cleanings.
Originally Posted By sinlessorrow:
a cleaning every 1k rounds will not leave any pitting on the bolt tail
a cleaning every 1k rounds will not leave any pitting on the bolt tail
Guess that depends on how short a period of time you put those thousand downrange. If you shoot frequently and reach that mark in a month or so that may be true. If it takes you 6 months or a year to do so then it may be different. The longer the carbon sits on there the more it has a chance (coupled with humidity if that's the case in your area) to eat into the underlying steel. As far as my friend's bolt I do not know how long he let it sit nor how many rounds total he had fired between cleanings.
I'd rather just buy a new bolt for $50 than spend an hour cleaning every time I shoot. Time = money as well.
To each his own. I tend to think in extremes, like say no availability of spare parts for whatever reason. In that guise it would behoove me to keep maintenance up.
Then pitting on the bolt tail would be the least of my concerns. Cracking at the cam hole would be much higher on the list. All the cleaning on the world isn't going to prevent that. So keep spares around.
I consider part of maintenance to be a cursory inspection also, so what you mention is already included.
2/8/2012 11:24:45 AM
I only know one way to clean my AR and that's to clean every possible nook and cranny with Q-tips until they run clean, no gloves. Lightly coat everything with CLP and I'm done...45 minutes to an hour. I clean it like my life depends on it like we were taught in the service.
2/8/2012 2:42:18 PM
There is a correlation between the time spend cleaning and the time spent shooting. Its been my experience that the folks who spend hours getting their AR white glove clean don't shoot all that often and tend to be low round count shooters.
2/9/2012 11:13:45 PM
Dishwasher. Upper in the top tray, lower in the bottom tray, BCG and components in the silverware bucket, half-o-cup of cascade, hit medium wash, drink a six pack, voila! rifle clean!
2/10/2012 9:59:26 AM
I used to spend hours cleaning my guns after a shoot. It got to the point where it was making me not want to go shooting.
Now, for the most part, unless the rifle is absolutely crapped up filthy, my cleaning involves nothing more than some hoppe's on a boresnake, and wiping down the bcg. For gloves, those yellow latex kitchen gloves.
I've found that by keeping it simple, shooting is much more pleasurable :)
Now, for the most part, unless the rifle is absolutely crapped up filthy, my cleaning involves nothing more than some hoppe's on a boresnake, and wiping down the bcg. For gloves, those yellow latex kitchen gloves.
I've found that by keeping it simple, shooting is much more pleasurable :)
2/10/2012 10:02:11 AM
Originally Posted By xachary82:
takes me maybe 20 minutes, watching tv and talking to wife... not getting it spottless but pretty clean.. I use nitrile gloves also.. cuz if they can hold up to chemotherapy chems im sure they can hold up to some #9... I also use slip2000
takes me maybe 20 minutes, watching tv and talking to wife... not getting it spottless but pretty clean.. I use nitrile gloves also.. cuz if they can hold up to chemotherapy chems im sure they can hold up to some #9... I also use slip2000
I stopped using nitrile gloves because the #9 breaks them down and they just kept ripping on me. Wont go through those kitchen gloves though, and they cover the forearm as well.
