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Does Cold Weather Affect Your AR?
1/29/2012 11:17:20 PM
Took the wife shooting yesterday
and it was 35ish out. Had several 20 round mags loaded with PMC brass and had no issues. I had gotten some more Wolf for Christmas and loaded it up and both rifles failed to feed after every round. Went back to PMC and some Remington UMC and functioned fine. Mine is a Remington R15 with a 22" barrel and a rifle length stock, hers is a Delton Dissy upper on a Plum Crazy lower with the collapsible stock. I have shot Wolf and Herters ammo on and off over the last 3 years and have had no issues to date. But I couldn't think of a time that Wolf had used in the cool temps. I realize the cool temp makes lube thick but I only had spray Rem Oil in both rifles for this trip. I usually use CLP in all my guns. Short of using more expensive ammo in the cold what are the other options or suggestions? Would a lighter spring or buffer help? I would hate to do anything permanent to either rifle since they both function fine in warm weather and hotter ammo.
No need to bad mouth the PC lower it has functioned perfectly on both uppers even with a Spikes .22 adapter.
and it was 35ish out. Had several 20 round mags loaded with PMC brass and had no issues. I had gotten some more Wolf for Christmas and loaded it up and both rifles failed to feed after every round. Went back to PMC and some Remington UMC and functioned fine. Mine is a Remington R15 with a 22" barrel and a rifle length stock, hers is a Delton Dissy upper on a Plum Crazy lower with the collapsible stock. I have shot Wolf and Herters ammo on and off over the last 3 years and have had no issues to date. But I couldn't think of a time that Wolf had used in the cool temps. I realize the cool temp makes lube thick but I only had spray Rem Oil in both rifles for this trip. I usually use CLP in all my guns. Short of using more expensive ammo in the cold what are the other options or suggestions? Would a lighter spring or buffer help? I would hate to do anything permanent to either rifle since they both function fine in warm weather and hotter ammo.
No need to bad mouth the PC lower it has functioned perfectly on both uppers even with a Spikes .22 adapter.
1/30/2012 12:27:02 AM
No, and 35 is not cold.
You need to scrub your chamber, or stop using the offending ammo.
And then clean your chamber
You need to scrub your chamber, or stop using the offending ammo.
And then clean your chamber
1/30/2012 12:12:11 PM
Originally Posted By kaptinkaveman:
Took the wife shooting yesterday and it was 35ish out. Had several 20 round mags loaded with PMC brass and had no issues. I had gotten some more Wolf for Christmas and loaded it up and both rifles failed to feed after every round. Went back to PMC and some Remington UMC and functioned fine. Mine is a Remington R15 with a 22" barrel and a rifle length stock, hers is a Delton Dissy upper on a Plum Crazy lower with the collapsible stock. I have shot Wolf and Herters ammo on and off over the last 3 years and have had no issues to date. But I couldn't think of a time that Wolf had used in the cool temps. I realize the cool temp makes lube thick but I only had spray Rem Oil in both rifles for this trip. I usually use CLP in all my guns. Short of using more expensive ammo in the cold what are the other options or suggestions? Would a lighter spring or buffer help? I would hate to do anything permanent to either rifle since they both function fine in warm weather and hotter ammo.
No need to bad mouth the PC lower it has functioned perfectly on both uppers even with a Spikes .22 adapter.
Took the wife shooting yesterday
and it was 35ish out. Had several 20 round mags loaded with PMC brass and had no issues. I had gotten some more Wolf for Christmas and loaded it up and both rifles failed to feed after every round. Went back to PMC and some Remington UMC and functioned fine. Mine is a Remington R15 with a 22" barrel and a rifle length stock, hers is a Delton Dissy upper on a Plum Crazy lower with the collapsible stock. I have shot Wolf and Herters ammo on and off over the last 3 years and have had no issues to date. But I couldn't think of a time that Wolf had used in the cool temps. I realize the cool temp makes lube thick but I only had spray Rem Oil in both rifles for this trip. I usually use CLP in all my guns. Short of using more expensive ammo in the cold what are the other options or suggestions? Would a lighter spring or buffer help? I would hate to do anything permanent to either rifle since they both function fine in warm weather and hotter ammo.
No need to bad mouth the PC lower it has functioned perfectly on both uppers even with a Spikes .22 adapter.
WOLF IS THE PROBLEM !
1/30/2012 5:58:08 PM
I should have said cool, not cold. 
Cold is calling coyotes @ -10 and killing 6, not 35 above @ the range. Both guns were clean. Chamber brush with hoppies then mopped out after cleaning the barrel. If the only answer is ammo then that is what I'll do. If not I am open to suggestions. Wolf is just fine for a range day with the wife killing clay pigeons. Would I hunt with it? No. Would I trust my life with it? No. It does have a place.
Cold is calling coyotes @ -10 and killing 6, not 35 above @ the range. Both guns were clean. Chamber brush with hoppies then mopped out after cleaning the barrel. If the only answer is ammo then that is what I'll do. If not I am open to suggestions. Wolf is just fine for a range day with the wife killing clay pigeons. Would I hunt with it? No. Would I trust my life with it? No. It does have a place.1/30/2012 6:17:28 PM
I shy away from Wolfe because I don't get to the good long range to shoot my AR's as much as I'd like to and it's also a pretty long drive so I'd rather not take the chance I'd have an issue with it and I just spend my money on good factory brass to be on the safe side.
That being said, many people do shoot Wolfe without issue, one of the major problems people seem to experience is either related to cleaning and lubing of the rifle (especially the chamber) or the rifle is a tad bit undergassed due to a slightly small gas port but as long as you only use quality ammo you won't have a problem.
If it were me and I had some Wolfe I was trying to get to function I'd first ditch the Hoppes and Rem oil, get a can of CLP and clean and lube the chamber again and see what happens.
That being said, many people do shoot Wolfe without issue, one of the major problems people seem to experience is either related to cleaning and lubing of the rifle (especially the chamber) or the rifle is a tad bit undergassed due to a slightly small gas port but as long as you only use quality ammo you won't have a problem.
If it were me and I had some Wolfe I was trying to get to function I'd first ditch the Hoppes and Rem oil, get a can of CLP and clean and lube the chamber again and see what happens.
1/30/2012 8:39:47 PM
You mentioned CLP, Hoppes, and Rem Oil. Some lube combinations will gel or gum up. Cold weather and underpowered ammo won't help any.
Degrease the innards and see if plain CLP works (rem oil is way too thin for an AR, IMHO)
CLP and Wolf workin' fine here
Degrease the innards and see if plain CLP works (rem oil is way too thin for an AR, IMHO)
CLP and Wolf workin' fine here
1/30/2012 10:13:19 PM
I'll try JUST CLP tonight. Will try again Sunday and report. Thank you!!
1/30/2012 11:15:24 PM
My recommendation is to feed a rifle good quality domestically made ammunition, and use a quality lubricant that works for the conditions and firearms that your are working with. I find that CLP tends to gel in extreme cold temps, which will cause cycling issues. My preference is the SLIP2000 Extreme Weapons Lubricant "EWL", as we have run it in -34F and it worked well. Extreme cold weather can also cause some materials that guns and magazines are made of to contract and change dimensions, which may cause feeding and cycling issues.
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CY6
Greg Sullivan "Sully"
SLR15 Rifles
TheDefensiveEdge.com
(763) 712-0123
