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 AR180B Ban Model - Yay or Nay?
Blain  [Member]
12/2/2011 4:32:46 PM
Have the opportunity to purchase a used ban era AR-180b. They have always interested me, except for the fact that they have a polymer lower and no chrome lined barrel. However, I never saw many of them around and today you almost never see them.

How difficult / expensive would it be to convert it to a no ban gun? How difficult and expensive would it be to have it modified to accept a folding stock?

Anyone know of any quality gunsmiths who charge REASONABLE prices for work? The local smith near me wants to charge me $160 to cut off the permanently attached brake and thread the barrel (I checked). I could buy a new barrel for that.

B44T  [Member]
12/4/2011 12:17:47 AM
Originally Posted By Blain:
Have the opportunity to purchase a used ban era AR-180b. They have always interested me, except for the fact that they have a polymer lower and no chrome lined barrel. However, I never saw many of them around and today you almost never see them.

How difficult / expensive would it be to convert it to a no ban gun? How difficult and expensive would it be to have it modified to accept a folding stock?

Anyone know of any quality gunsmiths who charge REASONABLE prices for work? The local smith near me wants to charge me $160 to cut off the permanently attached brake and thread the barrel (I checked). I could buy a new barrel for that.



Great guns ( that's why you rarely see them for sale I think ) Light, handy,comfortable, simple, few rugged parts, boringly reliable, surprisingly accurate and a half pound lighter than an original first generation 180.

The polymer lower is no big deal just don't slam the upper open and it will be fine.

Original AR18's and AR180's had a non lined barrel. No big deal.

ADCO should be able to tun and thread the muzzle for cheap but the receiver has to be removed from the barrel to do that.
A special wrench that fits inside the barrel extension and engages the locking lugs is required in order to avoid twisting the barrel extension inside the front trunnion. Ask Josh at Stormwerkz who he would recommend or if you are above average skill with hand tools you can buy a AR15 barrel extension tool from Brownells for 35 bucks.

Folding stocks are easy with an adapter and hinge from Stormwerkz , very high quality stuff.

I hope this helps.
LARRYG  [Team Member]
12/4/2011 9:08:06 AM
What B44T said and I will also emphasize what he said about the unlined barrels and the originals not having them.

Also, I have one of the first 180Bs and have managed to never crack the lower.

Of course, I don't let any of my rifles go flying open anyway.
Blain  [Member]
12/4/2011 8:42:55 PM
Emailed the guy, will await a response. Might consider converting it to a folder depending on the cost / quality of it. I had read in the past about some of the conversions not being too sturdy / tight. And then you just add weight to the gun with the metal stock.

I know for 100% certain that I want the flash hider and bayonet lug. I have heard that you need to shim those bayonet lug adapters in order for them to fit properly. Anyone have any input on this?
LARRYG  [Team Member]
12/5/2011 6:42:30 AM
Originally Posted By Blain:
Emailed the guy, will await a response. Might consider converting it to a folder depending on the cost / quality of it. I had read in the past about some of the conversions not being too sturdy / tight. And then you just add weight to the gun with the metal stock.

I know for 100% certain that I want the flash hider and bayonet lug. I have heard that you need to shim those bayonet lug adapters in order for them to fit properly. Anyone have any input on this?


I didn't have to shim it.

B44T  [Member]
12/5/2011 6:54:42 PM
Originally Posted By LARRYG:
Originally Posted By Blain:
Emailed the guy, will await a response. Might consider converting it to a folder depending on the cost / quality of it. I had read in the past about some of the conversions not being too sturdy / tight. And then you just add weight to the gun with the metal stock.

I know for 100% certain that I want the flash hider and bayonet lug. I have heard that you need to shim those bayonet lug adapters in order for them to fit properly. Anyone have any input on this?


I didn't have to shim it.



Neither did I.



About the Stormwerkz folder mechanism; it is precision machined from aluminum billet and type 3 hard coat anodized, very strong, very light light and locks up very solid.
Add the ACE stock of your choice and you end up with a more comfortable and far more durable side folder than on the original 180.

The 180B is a half pound lighter than a 180 to start with so replacing the fixed stock with an aluminum folder should change the total weight very little.
QCMGR  [Team Member]
12/5/2011 10:10:02 PM
Originally Posted By Blain:
Emailed the guy, will await a response. Might consider converting it to a folder depending on the cost / quality of it. I had read in the past about some of the conversions not being too sturdy / tight. And then you just add weight to the gun with the metal stock.

I know for 100% certain that I want the flash hider and bayonet lug. I have heard that you need to shim those bayonet lug adapters in order for them to fit properly. Anyone have any input on this?


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