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 Surefire fury p2x?
lowonair  [Team Member]
12/19/2011 3:37:38 AM
Anyone have one? Any reason i wouldn't be able to throw it on a rifle for hog hunting?
turp_dog  [Team Member]
12/19/2011 11:06:34 AM
Dont have one, but I immediately put it on my short list when I saw it on DSG Arms. Would like to see some pictures of the beam, and see how far it throws the light.
AR_Shorty  [Team Member]
12/19/2011 11:24:01 AM
I have one on order - should have it by the end of the week. For a weapon mounted light, the dual output may not make it the best option. Some of these lights (6PX and G2X) will change from low to high output under weapon recoil. Personally, that would bother the hell out of me.

As far as the Fury as a handheld light, it should throw pretty well. It was designed with a deeper reflector than the 6PX/G2X and they throw pretty well. 500 lumens baby!!!
lowonair  [Team Member]
12/19/2011 12:57:35 PM
Originally Posted By AR_Shorty:
I have one on order - should have it by the end of the week. For a weapon mounted light, the dual output may not make it the best option. Some of these lights (6PX and G2X) will change from low to high output under weapon recoil. Personally, that would bother the hell out of me.

As far as the Fury as a handheld light, it should throw pretty well. It was designed with a deeper reflector than the 6PX/G2X and they throw pretty well. 500 lumens baby!!!


The whole switching under recoil thing is what i'm worried about. If anything i do need a new hand held light since i lost my lx2.
Switchh  [Member]
12/19/2011 1:52:59 PM
I can tell you the E2DL will switch from high to low under recoil, but not from low to high.
lowonair  [Team Member]
12/19/2011 2:08:23 PM
Originally Posted By Switchh:
I can tell you the E2DL will switch from high to low under recoil, but not from low to high.


I guess i'll just have to try one out. I'm guessing they don't make a similar one with a single output head?
AR_Shorty  [Team Member]
12/19/2011 2:26:57 PM
Originally Posted By lowonair:
Originally Posted By Switchh:
I can tell you the E2DL will switch from high to low under recoil, but not from low to high.


I guess i'll just have to try one out. I'm guessing they don't make a similar one with a single output head?


No such luck.
Harv24  [Team Member]
12/19/2011 2:37:23 PM
Dual power kills it for me. Plus 500 lumens is over kill.
I suspect it would be fine on a varmint/hunting rig.

I don't use dual output on a weapon light.
lowonair  [Team Member]
12/19/2011 2:52:50 PM
Originally Posted By Harv24:
Dual power kills it for me. Plus 500 lumens is over kill.
I suspect it would be fine on a varmint/hunting rig.

I don't use dual output on a weapon light.


Where i work and where i hunt it still might not be enough.
Tack__Driver  [Member]
12/19/2011 3:15:45 PM
I suspect it's circuitry is unprotected from the batteries like the G2x and the 6Px. If that is the case, and considering the aforementioned dual mode, I would never use it as a weapon mounted light.

Otherwise, it has the makings of a badass handheld.
Switchh  [Member]
12/19/2011 11:17:18 PM
Originally Posted By lowonair:
Originally Posted By Switchh:
I can tell you the E2DL will switch from high to low under recoil, but not from low to high.


I guess i'll just have to try one out. I'm guessing they don't make a similar one with a single output head?


The scout lights use a TIR optic, IIRC, and they are single stage and designed for a rifle. But obviously they're much more expensive.
lowonair  [Team Member]
12/19/2011 11:40:09 PM
Originally Posted By Switchh:
Originally Posted By lowonair:
Originally Posted By Switchh:
I can tell you the E2DL will switch from high to low under recoil, but not from low to high.


I guess i'll just have to try one out. I'm guessing they don't make a similar one with a single output head?


The scout lights use a TIR optic, IIRC, and they are single stage and designed for a rifle. But obviously they're much more expensive.


I'd love to get a scout light but how far do they reach? I need something that reaches out to 150-200 yards.
NorthPolar  [Team Member]
12/20/2011 5:46:19 AM
Originally Posted By Tack__Driver:
I suspect it's circuitry is unprotected from the batteries like the G2x and the 6Px. If that is the case, and considering the aforementioned dual mode, I would never use it as a weapon mounted light.

Otherwise, it has the makings of a badass handheld.


The way it was explained to me by the surefire rep is the X series of lights are not firearm rated, and should be marked as such on the back of the package. I know the ones I have at work are. I have yet to see the one OP is talking about though.
Switchh  [Member]
12/20/2011 8:19:50 PM
Originally Posted By lowonair:
Originally Posted By Switchh:
Originally Posted By lowonair:
Originally Posted By Switchh:
I can tell you the E2DL will switch from high to low under recoil, but not from low to high.


I guess i'll just have to try one out. I'm guessing they don't make a similar one with a single output head?


The scout lights use a TIR optic, IIRC, and they are single stage and designed for a rifle. But obviously they're much more expensive.


I'd love to get a scout light but how far do they reach? I need something that reaches out to 150-200 yards.


My E2DL is very, very bright. 100 yards is good for the light, 150 maybe, I would say 200 is pushing it, but I'd wait to get a report from someone who has more experience with the 200 lumen lights. I have the first gen E2DL, which is 120 lumens.
Tack__Driver  [Member]
12/21/2011 11:07:25 AM
Originally Posted By lowonair:
Originally Posted By Switchh:
Originally Posted By lowonair:
Originally Posted By Switchh:
I can tell you the E2DL will switch from high to low under recoil, but not from low to high.


I guess i'll just have to try one out. I'm guessing they don't make a similar one with a single output head?


The scout lights use a TIR optic, IIRC, and they are single stage and designed for a rifle. But obviously they're much more expensive.


I'd love to get a scout light but how far do they reach? I need something that reaches out to 150-200 yards.


The scout will do what you want to do. 200 yards is pushing it for sure, but enough to get a sight picture and identify the target.

LarryLove  [Member]
12/22/2011 9:17:00 PM
I've got one on order. Anyone have one in hand? Post pics, people. The exterior, the reflector, the LED...
lowonair  [Team Member]
12/22/2011 9:46:36 PM
Originally Posted By LarryLove:
I've got one on order. Anyone have one in hand? Post pics, people. The exterior, the reflector, the LED...


I handled one today when i picked up my desert warrior and it seems pretty bright. Of course i was in a well lit store so i didn't get the full effect. It does say on the back that it's not intended for weapon use. I may pick one up after christmas to test out.
JSir  [Member]
12/23/2011 11:00:19 AM
I ordered 2 and they shipped but won't be here until next Friday. If no one beats me to it I'll take some pics and post them up here of the flashlight and beam\throw
UncivilEngineer  [Team Member]
12/23/2011 11:09:24 AM
looks nice, hopefully they start making a weapons suitable version soon.
AR_Shorty  [Team Member]
12/23/2011 11:44:06 AM
Mine is scheduled to be here today, but the wife wants to put it in my stocking to open on Xmas day. I'll post a review afterwards.
oohsnapss  [Member]
12/24/2011 5:37:32 PM
i got mine the other day for my birthday and its pretty impressive
but instead of P2X its called fury?

LA police gear had them
it was 15%off + came with 4 extra surefire batteries
and i picked it up locally so my total was $141.63




jperry69  [Team Member]
12/26/2011 2:52:40 PM
Originally Posted By oohsnapss:
i got mine the other day for my birthday and its pretty impressive
but instead of P2X its called fury?

LA police gear had them
it was 15%off + came with 4 extra surefire batteries
and i picked it up locally so my total was $141.63

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a18/LeeHank/_MG_1951.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a18/LeeHank/_MG_1953.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a18/LeeHank/_MG_1952.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a18/LeeHank/_MG_1954.jpg


That's it? No pics of it on in the dark? No review? No comparison? Thanks for letting us know you got one
lambo  [Member]
12/26/2011 8:06:17 PM
Originally Posted By lowonair:
Originally Posted By Switchh:
Originally Posted By lowonair:
Originally Posted By Switchh:
I can tell you the E2DL will switch from high to low under recoil, but not from low to high.


I guess i'll just have to try one out. I'm guessing they don't make a similar one with a single output head?


The scout lights use a TIR optic, IIRC, and they are single stage and designed for a rifle. But obviously they're much more expensive.


I'd love to get a scout light but how far do they reach? I need something that reaches out to 150-200 yards.


Throw won't be a problem with the KX2C Scout head. It's a thrower for sure. It has a very tight beam with little spill. In my opinion a scout body using a Valiant Concepts head with a Malkoff M61 drop in would be the best set up. It will throw almost as far with 10x better spill. It would allow you to see everything in front of you not just a small piece of it.
M4-AK  [Team Member]
12/29/2011 9:49:51 AM
How about an update. It looks really good.
lowonair  [Team Member]
12/29/2011 9:34:30 PM
Originally Posted By M4-AK:
How about an update. It looks really good.


This. I'm waiting for a review before i make my decision.
DanTSX  [Team Member]
12/29/2011 11:19:20 PM
Holy shit! Where did this come from?!?!

Anyone want to buy a lightly used SF LX2?
DanTSX  [Team Member]
12/29/2011 11:21:43 PM
Originally Posted By lowonair:
Originally Posted By M4-AK:
How about an update. It looks really good.


This. I'm waiting for a review before i make my decision.


I'm sure that candlepower forums.com has at least one in-depth analysis of this light already. Take a look!

edit: Found one http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?325761-The-SureFire-P2X-B-quot-Fury-quot-500lu-flashlight-thread
wyager  [Member]
12/30/2011 2:27:49 AM
Looks like it might be partially made in China. Hmm...

ETA:
As I read the CPF thread, there is some stuff not to like.
No one is sure what is/is not made in China.
Plastic lens.
Unrealistic/misleading brightness/runtime specifications.

I think there are many reasons that this light is so cheap for a Surefire.
Size15s  [Team Member]
12/30/2011 3:08:45 PM
SureFire use the same description for all their lights.
Plenty of LEDs either aren't 'made in the USA' or sufficiently made in the USA to be 'made in the USA', and given that the LED is a major and significant component of a flashlight so even when effectively the rest of the flashlight is made and assembled in the USA from USA materials, the whole flashlight cannot be called 'made in the USA' without qualification.

SureFire machine all their own metal components at their state of the art 'turning centre' facility in SoCal where they also assemble their products.

crashbubba  [Member]
1/10/2012 11:44:31 PM
I received my Surefire Fury today in the mail. I thought I'd try and post some info on it, as I also scoured the internet for review info before purchasing and didn't really find a whole lot. Hopefully this helps.

Dimenionally, the Fury is about the same size as the 6PX (the Fury is about 1/8" longer) so I'm able to use the Fury in the same holster I use for the 6PX.

As mentioned on the CPF forums, there is very, very slight greenish tint to the beam. It wasn't noticable until I started comparing the beams of my other lights. During normal use, I'm sure I wouldn't notice the slight tint. The beam is significantly brighter than the 6PX, and it is bit more "floody". Also, without a crenelated bezel the edges of the beam are smooth, unlike the 6PX which shows shadows of the bezel.

Living in an urban area, I wasn't able to get good beamshots without driving 45 min. The dark areas suitable for taking beam shots would have someone calling the cops on me in a few minutes. The best I could do right now is a very short 35 foot space by my garage.

Hope this helps anyone on the fence about getting one. I'm definitely happy with the Fury.




crashbubba  [Member]
1/10/2012 11:47:17 PM
Comparative beamshots:

CONTROL SHOT


SUREFIRE FURY


SUREFIRE 6PX


FENIX PD31


FENIX TK35
DanTSX  [Team Member]
1/11/2012 12:24:11 AM
Sold!
M4-AK  [Team Member]
1/11/2012 9:26:56 AM
The Fury hotspot appears to be twice as large as the 6px.
storl  [Dealer]
1/13/2012 11:17:59 PM
Originally Posted By M4-AK:
The Fury hotspot appears to be twice as large as the 6px.


Yeah, it is quite a bit larger. The intensity is about the same, but you can illuminate a much larger target with the Fury.

BUZZZ  [Member]
1/30/2012 3:35:52 PM
Originally Posted By lowonair:
Anyone have one? Any reason i wouldn't be able to throw it on a rifle for hog hunting?


As per surefire this light is not intended for use on a weapon. There is a spring in the tailcap however there is no spring on the head portion to absorb the impact from recoil.


http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=yu7L2BgLL4U&vq=large#t=151
lowonair  [Team Member]
1/31/2012 1:21:57 AM
Originally Posted By BUZZZ:
Originally Posted By lowonair:
Anyone have one? Any reason i wouldn't be able to throw it on a rifle for hog hunting?


As per surefire this light is not intended for use on a weapon. There is a spring in the tailcap however there is no spring on the head portion to absorb the impact from recoil.


http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=yu7L2BgLL4U&vq=large#t=151


I've been meaning to update this. I bought one a couple of weeks ago and love it. I've been using it at work as a handheld light and it's useful to around 200 yards or so. I can't click on the link you posted but i'm planning to get something else to mount on my rifles. I may pick up a few more of these though.
M4-guy  [Member]
1/31/2012 1:48:51 AM
At least a few dealers have recently dropped the price to 108.50 + delivery.
Fooboy  [Member]
1/31/2012 7:38:11 AM
Originally Posted By BUZZZ:
Originally Posted By lowonair:
Anyone have one? Any reason i wouldn't be able to throw it on a rifle for hog hunting?


As per surefire this light is not intended for use on a weapon. There is a spring in the tailcap however there is no spring on the head portion to absorb the impact from recoil.


http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=yu7L2BgLL4U&vq=large#t=151


FYI - I don't believe the scout series lights have a recoil - just a single-stage E-series head + Z68 tailcap.
Az_Tibor  [Member]
2/4/2012 1:59:40 PM

Originally Posted By Fooboy:
Originally Posted By BUZZZ:
Originally Posted By lowonair:
Anyone have one? Any reason i wouldn't be able to throw it on a rifle for hog hunting?


As per surefire this light is not intended for use on a weapon. There is a spring in the tailcap however there is no spring on the head portion to absorb the impact from recoil.


http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=yu7L2BgLL4U&vq=large#t=151


FYI - I don't believe the scout series lights have a recoil - just a single-stage E-series head + Z68 tailcap.

The Scout and other E-series led heads do not have a contact spring at the head, you are correct. However, there is a huge difference - the metal nub on the Scout/E led heads is connected to a small plastic tower that provides almost a centimeter of separation between the battery and the driver circuit. During recoil on the Scout/E led heads, the battery may smash into the metal nub, but the metal nub and plastic piece take the beating while the driver circuit is perfectly safe and protected. With the new 6PX/G2X/P2X lights, the battery is smashing directly into the underside of the driver circuit.