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 What are my options for bayonet lugs? ( clamp on )
atxjax  [Member]
12/6/2007 8:48:44 AM EST
I just ordered a 16" Car A4 and from what I read I wont be able to use a regular length bayonet on it. So I decided to go with the YHM flip front with no bayonet lug. What are my options besides this?

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CWDraco  [Member]
12/6/2007 9:17:36 AM EST

Originally Posted By atxjax:
I just ordered a 16" Car A4 and from what I read I wont be able to use a regular length bayonet on it. So I decided to go with the YHM flip front with no bayonet lug. What are my options besides this?

www.cheaperthandirt.com/ARR044-3325-1292.html


Let me understand you...you are getting a 16" AR-15 with YHM FSB (that has no lug). You did the proper research and found out the standard M-16 sized bayonet will not fit, And you want to mount a bayonet on this weapon also...am I hearing you correctly?

If so... you need to search for a modified bayonet...(I have seen them sold on the EE).

Most people never use the lug, some people want the lug simply because the Gov says its evil...personally I will never use my 16" AR-15 as a spear....

Now I do find myself stabbing a lot of things with my M91/30..yes it is sorta fun.

In a combat situation, if you have to use a stabbing weapon for survival, the last thing you want to do is attach a bayonet to a 16" AR-15. You will do more damage and be a lot quicker simply using a large knife.

The bayonet was a throw back from the black powder days, when it took along time to reload. The hive mind thought a bayonet was needed, when it really isnt. they figured it was a silent way to kill also..its not, want ever you stab will scream..this isnt hollywood. they remembered WW1 and the trench fighting...so JIC the wanted a lug..its still a bad idea, since the reason trench warfare was hard was due to the bayonet...it limits your movement. The hive mind also figured they could save on bullets by having the solder finish guys off with a bayonet.

bayonet lug = tits on a man...useless.
JONNYROCKO  [Member]
12/6/2007 9:36:51 AM EST
could someone explain how the bayonet is supposed to mount properly? i have seen many a bayo on 16in rifles and never thought twice. maybe a pic of an improper mounted one and a proper one or something
M4builder  [Team Member]
12/6/2007 9:56:27 AM EST

Originally Posted By JONNYROCKO:
could someone explain how the bayonet is supposed to mount properly? i have seen many a bayo on 16in rifles and never thought twice. maybe a pic of an improper mounted one and a proper one or something


You'd need a 16" with mid-length gas, or a 14.5" with extended FH, or a 14.7" may work. Mine has it sitting on the back half of the last ring on the FH.
MARSH1  [Team Member]
12/6/2007 10:29:02 AM EST

Originally Posted By JONNYROCKO:
could someone explain how the bayonet is supposed to mount properly? i have seen many a bayo on 16in rifles and never thought twice. maybe a pic of an improper mounted one and a proper one or something


Extended bayonet on a 16" rifle.

Link to thread with information about it. LINK

atxjax  [Member]
12/6/2007 10:30:19 AM EST

Originally Posted By CWDraco:

Originally Posted By atxjax:
I just ordered a 16" Car A4 and from what I read I wont be able to use a regular length bayonet on it. So I decided to go with the YHM flip front with no bayonet lug. What are my options besides this?

www.cheaperthandirt.com/ARR044-3325-1292.html


Let me understand you...you are getting a 16" AR-15 with YHM FSB (that has no lug). You did the proper research and found out the standard M-16 sized bayonet will not fit, And you want to mount a bayonet on this weapon also...am I hearing you correctly?

If so... you need to search for a modified bayonet...(I have seen them sold on the EE).

Most people never use the lug, some people want the lug simply because the Gov says its evil...personally I will never use my 16" AR-15 as a spear....

Now I do find myself stabbing a lot of things with my M91/30..yes it is sorta fun.

In a combat situation, if you have to use a stabbing weapon for survival, the last thing you want to do is attach a bayonet to a 16" AR-15. You will do more damage and be a lot quicker simply using a large knife.

The bayonet was a throw back from the black powder days, when it took along time to reload. The hive mind thought a bayonet was needed, when it really isnt. they figured it was a silent way to kill also..its not, want ever you stab will scream..this isnt hollywood. they remembered WW1 and the trench fighting...so JIC the wanted a lug..its still a bad idea, since the reason trench warfare was hard was due to the bayonet...it limits your movement. The hive mind also figured they could save on bullets by having the solder finish guys off with a bayonet.

bayonet lug = tits on a man...useless.



yeah, i thought of the baynoet just for the cool factor i guess. but as with many on this board...I dont want to pay over 100 bucks for a bayonet. Ill just get that clamp on adapter from cheaperthandirt and use a regular M9 bayonet.
edlmann  [Member]
12/7/2007 4:43:02 AM EST

Originally Posted By CWDraco:
...personally I will never use my 16" AR-15 as a spear....


Probably a pike would be a better comparison, but +1 nonetheless.


Originally Posted By CWDraco:
The bayonet was a throw back from the black powder days, when it took along time to reload.


Also, the rifles were a couple of feet longer. If I'm going to stab someone with a knife on a stick, I want a longer stick.
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