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ROADFLARE  [Member]
4/2/2011 8:22:25 PM EST
This is a pentax red dot. Seems to be well made and does the job for around $60.





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yzryl556  [Member]
4/2/2011 8:31:03 PM EST
cool ...... does'nt need to be expensive for plinking..... may i ask where u got it.........
Ecarl4100  [Team Member]
4/2/2011 8:32:56 PM EST
It looks on backwards. Maybe its just the design.
beequewl  [Member]
4/2/2011 9:26:34 PM EST
Originally Posted By Ecarl4100:
It looks on backwards. Maybe its just the design.


i was just thinking the same thing.
phurba  [Life Member]
4/2/2011 9:38:57 PM EST
Why did you mount it on top of a detachable carry handle?
ROADFLARE  [Member]
4/2/2011 9:48:39 PM EST
Hard to see it through the front sight if it is mounted on the flat top. The sight is mounted correctly.
Effenpig  [Team Member]
4/2/2011 9:49:40 PM EST
That setup seems strange
phurba  [Life Member]
4/2/2011 9:51:23 PM EST
Originally Posted By ROADFLARE:
Hard to see it through the front sight if it is mounted on the flat top. The sight is mounted correctly.


Shouldn't be visible if you're focused on the target, which is how you use a red dot. It looks difficult to impossible to get a cheek weld with the current setup.
ROADFLARE  [Member]
4/2/2011 10:40:19 PM EST
just got this sight so still experimenting with it.

Mr45auto  [Team Member]
4/3/2011 12:17:08 AM EST
I assume that's a flashlight on the rear? It's right where your backup irons should be.

Try one of these

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/Midwest-Industries-MCTAR-01-p/mctar-01.htm

You can use a standard 1" scope ring to mount a flashlight.

For a good backup iron sight you may look into cutting your carry handle. It's a great way to get a good rear sight without spending any money.
M4A1bushmaster  [Member]
4/3/2011 6:33:46 AM EST
Originally Posted By Mr45auto:
I assume that's a flashlight on the rear? It's right where your backup irons should be.

Try one of these

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/Midwest-Industries-MCTAR-01-p/mctar-01.htm
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/v/vspfiles/photos/MCTAR-01-2T.jpg
You can use a standard 1" scope ring to mount a flashlight.

For a good backup iron sight you may look into cutting your carry handle. It's a great way to get a good rear sight without spending any money.


It might be a laser, but it would still be better at the FSB.
Moondog  [Member]
4/3/2011 10:55:21 AM EST
Originally Posted By ROADFLARE:
Hard to see it through the front sight if it is mounted on the flat top. The sight is mounted correctly.


My brother ran into similar problem with a tube shaped red dot. Sits too low if used alone. You'll need a riser in order to get the dot to co-witness or appear above the sight post.

How well has that sight held up? The reviews I read about it say it was built for use on airsoft guns.

rvaducks  [Member]
4/3/2011 3:30:58 PM EST
I sure it will hold up as well as any other Chinese made airsoft grade optic.
Cavitation  [Member]
4/3/2011 3:59:55 PM EST
I do not know were Pentax is made now but they have good glass in there optics. There are a lot of made in china stuff around that is made to ordered spec. There is a a lot of suppliers on this board that contract out to china and charge large amounts of money for made in china stuff. It does not make them air soft qrade optics.

All that said I love Leupold There warranty/customer service is top notch.
Mr45auto  [Team Member]
4/3/2011 7:38:32 PM EST
For an inexpensive optic I'd reccomend the Primary Optics aimpoint micro clone. I've had one for awhile on my AR45 and it's been a pretty good little optic. My 5.56 wears the real aimpoint micro and if you rely on this rifle as your go to gun then I'd suggest at least the R1.
hmaverick  [Team Member]
4/3/2011 7:44:00 PM EST
Use the carry handle till you can afford something real. There's no way I'd remove that carry handle for a pentax airsoft sight
ROADFLARE  [Member]
4/3/2011 9:14:42 PM EST
This is not an airsoft sight.

Pentax Gameseeker HS20 Red Dot Sight Scope 89702 Pentax Gameseeker HS20 Red Dot Sight Scope is a parallax-free red dot scope that is the perfect attachment when a traditional riflescope will not perform to preferred standards. The Pentax Red Dot Sight Scope features a 4 MOA dot which is the ideal size for most shooters, along with high quality optics with full-multi-coating on every surface. Gameseeker HS20 Red Dot Scope by Pentax is simple to use and extremely effective for turkey hunting or for quick target acquisition with a pistol. There are 11 brightness settings for various shooting conditions and feature the Pentax signature PentaBright
ROADFLARE  [Member]
4/3/2011 9:20:00 PM EST
Here's 2 links
http://www.opticsplanet.net/pentax-gameseeker-hs20-red-dot-sight-scope-89702.html

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=549247
rvaducks  [Member]
4/3/2011 10:28:06 PM EST
That’s great and I am glad you like it. Just do yourself a favor and don’t fool yourself into thinking that it is a quality optic. It’s a $60 hole in your wallet and nothing else. There is a saying: Buy once, cry once.
OlCrow  [Team Member]
4/4/2011 2:22:17 AM EST

Originally Posted By rvaducks:
That’s great and I am glad you like it. Just do yourself a favor and don’t fool yourself into thinking that it is a quality optic. It’s a $60 hole in your wallet and nothing else. There is a saying: Buy once, cry once.

Well said.

OP, report back after you have fired a thousand hundred rounds or so with that optic. Obviously you are new to this, those of us that aren't know what works and what doesn't. Don't be butt hurt when you are told the truth.
TeeRex  [Team Member]
4/4/2011 2:34:50 AM EST
I'm glad you are happy with your purchase, but the reason I have an eotech is because of the reticle. The 1moa dot with the 65moa ring can be used for ranging.


Other than looking somewhat like a backwards eotech it is just a budget red dot sight.
FreeFloater  [Member]
4/4/2011 4:51:37 AM EST
The Vortex Strikefire is the cheapest red dot that I would trust. I barely even trust it. I have one, and use it, but would feel better with an Aimpoint or EOTech.
Moondog  [Member]
4/4/2011 5:50:27 AM EST
I wasn't trying to diss the product by saying it's for airsoft, since I have no personal experience with it. Several reviews I saw on this product awhile back indicate it has a poor track record when it comes to firearms with considerable recoil, and it was on Amazon's website where I saw the user feedback concluding it was airsoft grade because of it's sensitivity to recoil. I was reporting what I had read.

If it works for you just fine without a hitch, that's what I want to know. It might be a good budget optic for light recoil applications, and the best way to find out is by asking questions.
pun  [Member]
4/4/2011 12:53:53 PM EST
what ever grade optic you use get a BUIS so you can use irons if the batterie powered optic fails.
chairforce26  [Member]
4/4/2011 1:08:25 PM EST
This is a poor man's EOTech:

ROADFLARE  [Member]
4/4/2011 3:26:24 PM EST
I was actually looking for a bushnell holosight but thought I would put My money into a couple of builds first. I may upgrade later and put the pentax on one of My target 22's.



PALADIN-hgwt  [Member]
4/4/2011 3:55:14 PM EST
Shame on you guys trying to tell a 13 post wonderboy how to spend his money. After spending only 60 dollars on a sight, he has lots of dough left over to buy some gun show reloads.

Paladin
ROADFLARE  [Member]
4/4/2011 6:37:09 PM EST
What other people think of Me is none of My business.
rvaducks  [Member]
4/4/2011 9:23:13 PM EST
Don’t get upset when you post pictures of your kit and people don’t think what you bought is squared away. You made a poor choice but it’s not the end of the world. Instead of acting butt-hurt you would be better off finding out what goes into making a good optic (or any other part for you carbine) and going from there.
LaRue556  [Team Member]
4/5/2011 4:33:28 AM EST


Seems....

People like to toss that word around like they have metallurgical and circuitry sensing vision.

I'm not speaking for it or against it but have you shot it? Taken it apart for examination? Because those oreo dog treats they seem delicious.....
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