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TOMR67  [Member]
1/11/2010 8:40:56 PM
not sure if anyone here has seen or discussed this but there is a company on ebay that sells clone eotechs and other than they don't say eotech on em they look identicle, for $65 shipped i got one and put it on my m4 and I can't tell the difference need to get time to go shoot with it but heck if it works well I just saved myself $300 +/-

here is a link to the ebay store they also sell aimpoint clones and i found another guy that sells the eotech hood with laser clone cheap all made in china of corse

http://cgi.ebay.com/New-G-P-Red-Green-Dot-Tactical-552-Type-Sight-552_W0QQitemZ220536863356QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3359057a7c
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Spookfish  [Member]
1/11/2010 8:48:52 PM
Haha wow, those are sad sacks of shit, believe me I had one a while ago for an airsoft gun for simulations. It died randomly, its not actually a holosight, its a red dot. Its not nearly bright enough, and I would never put that on my colt when I take it to the range. I doubt it could handle the recoil, much less hold zero.
Mccray  [Member]
1/11/2010 8:50:08 PM
It's probably got an exploding chip hidden in there that they can detonate from The Peoples red war satellite. good luck. post back how the thing works out for you. don't let your children play with it they may get lead poisoning
demusn1979  [Team Member]
1/11/2010 8:53:24 PM
Originally Posted By TOMR67:
not sure if anyone here has seen or discussed this but there is a company on ebay that sells clone eotechs and other than they don't say eotech on em they look identicle, for $65 shipped i got one and put it on my m4 and I can't tell the difference need to get time to go shoot with it but heck if it works well I just saved myself $300 +/-

here is a link to the ebay store they also sell aimpoint clones and i found another guy that sells the eotech hood with laser clone cheap all made in china of corse

http://cgi.ebay.com/New-G-P-Red-Green-Dot-Tactical-552-Type-Sight-552_W0QQitemZ220536863356QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3359057a7c

Good luck.

scottrh2  [Team Member]
1/11/2010 9:20:08 PM
Looks like this could be a long one..
TOMR67  [Member]
1/11/2010 10:25:45 PM
ehh figured i would give it a try it was cheap and i have some real cheap optics on other rifles that work just fine, waiting on some other upgrades to come in before I drive 2 hours to the range to site in
Claybrook  [Team Member]
1/11/2010 11:31:26 PM
I usually have to learn the hard way too.
fuzzy03cls  [Member]
1/12/2010 11:46:08 AM
2 problems you WILL have...

1 - The sight will not be bright enough
2 - It will go off after each shot because the battery compartment is not shock proof like a real Eotech & can't handle the recoil of the AR.
TOMR67  [Member]
1/12/2010 2:00:06 PM
well i found it to be to bright and had to turn it waaay down, it also does the red and green, i have dropped it turned on several times from a height of 6' no problems stays on and when placed back on gun still had it's zero, this weapon does not have much vibration unlike a 50 cal sniper rifle, like i said when i get out to the range i will let you all know how well it does or does not work, thing with items made in china is they seem to be constantly improving designs/manufacturing to fix problems with their products, i would attach a pic but it looks like this site makes you host elsewhere and post a link here
cevtv  [Member]
1/12/2010 6:22:06 PM
Originally Posted By TOMR67:
it also does the red and green like the brand name[/img]


Ummm.....Real EOTech's don't have green........ Good luck with your toy.

TOMR67  [Member]
1/12/2010 8:30:20 PM
if you hit the N/V button on these the reticle turns green
scottrh2  [Team Member]
1/12/2010 8:56:39 PM
Nothing to add.
Zack3g  [Life Member]
1/12/2010 9:01:39 PM
Originally Posted By TOMR67:
um if you hit the N/V button the reticle turns green for use with nitevision


uh...no it doesn't.


have you EVER seen a real Eotech?

the NV button simply dims the reticle beyond the limits of normal vision, to prevent burning an image onto your NV device.


TOMR67  [Member]
1/12/2010 9:17:20 PM
well I like my toy and don't use nite vision for work, but on my salary eotech is waaaaay overpriced imo
cgrubb1  [Member]
1/12/2010 9:41:47 PM
There are so many pricks here who feel the need to harass and belittle people who don't throw money at the coolest most expensive thing and justifying it as self defense. I guess not many people know what it's like to be on a budget and try to get a quality item without paying for name brands. If it turns out well, let me know. I'm looking for a reasonable holographic sight too. Thanks.
demusn1979  [Team Member]
1/12/2010 10:00:43 PM
Originally Posted By TOMR67:
well I like my toy and don't use nite vision for work, but on my salary eotech is waaaaay overpriced imo, especily for poor cops like me that need em our dept. can't afford patrol rifles but policy says we can buy and use our own


Those don't belong on any duty rifle..

gjohnson  [Member]
1/12/2010 10:08:53 PM
Originally Posted By cgrubb1:
There are so many pricks here who feel the need to harass and belittle people who don't throw money at the coolest most expensive thing and justifying it as self defense. I guess not many people know what it's like to be on a budget and try to get a quality item without paying for name brands. If it turns out well, let me know. I'm looking for a reasonable holographic sight too. Thanks.


Normally good sir, I'd agree with you. Hell if this is just a self defense gun, or plinker I'd be all in with you. And I was ok with this until he said he is a cop and this is going on his duty weapon. There is no way on gods green earth, or hell for that matter that I would take a cheap watered down clone into harms way unless it was the most absolute last solution. And even then I better have the drop on the bad guy and a good set of iron sights to back it up. Better yet I'd probably make do with those.

Albeit if this does to be proved reliable with many many many hours and rounds while on the range, it may be acceptable. Being a cop and on a budget is something I completely understand, but would you bet that $ 300 you save on the life of one of your citizens (well I know I would take that bet with some of our frequent flyers), or the life of one of your co-workers, or your own for that matter? As stated being on a cop and on a budget is hard, but spending needless rounds trying to make sure your sight will hold zero, or worse yet slaping that bad boy on your rifle to find it is garbage is a step in a wrong direction. Poor training leads to bad tactics and bad decisions, but poor equipment can do the same thing. A plinker.... fine great put that thing on there, a defense gun... well maybe, but only after I seriously used it.... a battle rifle that may be entered into harms way... it would take an act of god. Unless however it proves itself as a useful tool. But the cheap clones coming out of china have a horrible reputation for being just what they are... A cheap alternative that is high accuracy in the asthetics department but not on the range.

Just my two cents on the matter.
TOMR67  [Member]
1/13/2010 12:56:23 AM
I have an expensive mil spec flip up rear site and fixed front, i saw someone had a thread for aimpoint clones and thought i would let guys know you can get these as "clones" to, now i remember why i stopped being admin on another gun site tired of jackholes that want to run there mouth and speculate on something they have no knowledge of or experience with just to get their post count up, hell if you can afford 2k for a gun then 2k worth of crap to go on it just to sit in your house or go plink more power to ya like i said i need the gun and have a low budget, if you would like to buy me a $300+ site I will take it and use it
bdawg998  [Team Member]
1/13/2010 2:02:29 AM

Originally Posted By TOMR67:
well my vest is also expired so that no big deal lets throw away $300+ on a site to me is better invested in a new vest since the vest will save my life more than an expensive holographic site, I have an expensive mil spec flip up rear site and fixed front, i saw someone had a thread for aimpoint clones and thought i would let guys know you can get these as clones to, now i remember why i stopped being admin on another gun site tired of jackholes that want to run there mouth and speculate on something they have no knowledge of or experience with, hell if you can afford 2k for a gun then 2k worth of crap to go on it just to sit in your house or go plink more power to ya like i said i need the gun and have a low budget, if you would like to buy me a $300+ site I will take it and use it for work otherwise shut yer yap, i will test it out and i will learn for myself if it was worth while
Do you really think you're the first person thats ever bought one of these and then come here to talk about it? It happens often, and 99 times out of 100, the cheap clone ends up being a piece of garbage. Now, if you wanted to buy an inexpensive red dot, you should of come here first and asked for recommendations and you would have gotten some. There is a company, that pays money to be on this board, called Vortex Optics that makes a red dot that is styled similar to an Aimpoint. I think it would of been a much better use of your money. And you can get them for about $150. Hopefully, your EoFake will work out for you, and I hope it does, but chances are that its going to be a piece of crap. If I had to carry a rifle, for any reason, I would either spend money on a good quality optic or work harder at becoming very good with irons and not worrying about an optic.

Just my .o2 and my opinion, which is worth exactly what you paid for it.

Spookfish  [Member]
1/13/2010 2:07:47 AM
I put the magnifier behind the China crap one I had in storage (made from the same facility you got yours) and when I looked through the magnifier... Lo and behold the reticle was so blurred that I couldn't even find the dot... I can take pictures if you desire, but there are really much better RD's out there for the price of the fake.
OlCrow  [Team Member]
1/13/2010 6:44:45 AM
To the OP,

You didn't save money, you wasted money on that POS sight. I hope it doesn't get you killed because it is a failure waiting to happen.
Aimless  [Site Staff]
1/13/2010 6:55:47 AM
Airsoft eotech knock off on a duty rifle?
TurboniumOxide  [Team Member]
1/13/2010 7:06:05 AM
It is junk.
Aimless  [Site Staff]
1/13/2010 7:18:31 AM

Originally Posted By cgrubb1:
There are so many pricks here who feel the need to harass and belittle people who don't throw money at the coolest most expensive thing and justifying it as self defense. I guess not many people know what it's like to be on a budget and try to get a quality item without paying for name brands. If it turns out well, let me know. I'm looking for a reasonable holographic sight too. Thanks.

Telling someone that buying an airsoft scope for a duty rifle is a bad idea is not being a prick.
bytor94  [Team Member]
1/13/2010 7:27:53 AM

Originally Posted By cgrubb1:
There are so many pricks here who feel the need to harass and belittle people who don't throw money at the coolest most expensive thing and justifying it as self defense. I guess not many people know what it's like to be on a budget and try to get a quality item without paying for name brands. If it turns out well, let me know. I'm looking for a reasonable holographic sight too. Thanks.

Buying an off-brand of shoe is a little different than buying an optic for a duty rifle.
OlCrow  [Team Member]
1/13/2010 8:28:18 AM

Originally Posted By cgrubb1:
There are so many pricks here who feel the need to harass and belittle people who don't throw money at the coolest most expensive thing and justifying it as self defense. I guess not many people know what it's like to be on a budget and try to get a quality item without paying for name brands. If it turns out well, let me know. I'm looking for a reasonable holographic sight too. Thanks.

The sight in question here, the clone crap chinese made "looks-like" EOTech is a DOT sight, not a holographic sight.
fuzzy03cls  [Member]
1/13/2010 10:26:38 AM
Originally Posted By TOMR67:
well my vest is also expired so that no big deal lets throw away $300+ on a site to me is better invested in a new vest since the vest will save my life more than an expensive holographic site, I have an expensive mil spec flip up rear site and fixed front, i saw someone had a thread for aimpoint clones and thought i would let guys know you can get these as clones to, now i remember why i stopped being admin on another gun site tired of jackholes that want to run there mouth and speculate on something they have no knowledge of or experience with, hell if you can afford 2k for a gun then 2k worth of crap to go on it just to sit in your house or go plink more power to ya like i said i need the gun and have a low budget, if you would like to buy me a $300+ site I will take it and use it for work otherwise shut yer yap, i will test it out and i will learn for myself if it was worth while


Wow.
I do have 1st hand experience as do others. And you may want to be open minded that a lot of people on here know what they are talking about & are just trying to tell you that the road your on is a futile one.
You don't have to spend $ on a eotech but you also don't want junk. There are some good RD sights for under $150 sold by vendor's here.
Renn  [Team Member]
1/13/2010 4:48:17 PM

this on a duty gun? it will probably scare the bad guys away but don't rely on it. As I stated before there are no clones, just RIPOFFs.
I think you are better off with iron sights than sticking that thing on. Title of this thread shouldn't be EoTech Clone but rather a cheap red dot sight alternative. Even as a duty gun, you don't need a red dot sight.
There's a reason why the .gov issues REAL EoTechs, Aimpoints and ACOGs –– they work! and are not ripoffs from the motherland made by kids in a shoe factory...believe me I am Chinese and can attest to my childhood in a factory
Lakeguy  [Team Member]
1/13/2010 5:39:17 PM
Wow.
GilenusX207  [Team Member]
1/13/2010 5:50:38 PM
Le sigh.
Garandboy  [Team Member]
1/13/2010 5:53:50 PM
I'm not the type to judge people or trying out a more affordable sight. I own a couple of Primary Arms M3s but I also own a few real EOtechs and a Bushnell Halo. The more affordable options work fine for their use of punching holes in paper and teaching new shooters.

But you lost me with the duty rifle, I would never use that optic for that. And as others have said, if you where looking for a budget optic they could have steered you to some known products that have been used by members and have the support of the company that sells them.
Aimless  [Site Staff]
1/13/2010 6:08:09 PM

Originally Posted By Garandboy:
I'm not the type to judge people or trying out a more affordable sight. I own a couple of Primary Arms M3s but I also own a few real EOtechs and a Bushnell Halo. The more affordable options work fine for their use of punching holes in paper and teaching new shooters.

But you lost me with the duty rifle, I would never use that optic for that. And as others have said, if you where looking for a budget optic they could have steered you to some known products that have been used by members and have the support of the company that sells them.

Yeah I don't care what someone puts on their fungun, or for that matter what they put on their at home gun, if they don't want to listen, so be it. But what happens if this carbine is involved in a shooting? Bad enough in the criminal case, but in a resulting civil case?

"Officer what equipment, if any, did your firearm have on it that did not come with it orginally?"
"Um a scope"
"Was that a scope your department issued and inspected?"
"Well, no..."
"What type of scope was it?"
"It was a toy scope I bought off the internet."
"Excuse, are you saying this was a scope intended for use on children's toys?'
"Well yeah, but ya know I tested it out.."
"Tested it?"
"Well I drove four hours one afternoon to shoot some cans at the range"
'"I see. What scopes do the state police in your area use"
"Aimpoints"
"What about your county's SWAT team?"
"Eotechs"
"Do you know of any police agency that issues toy scopes bought off ebay?"
"Well, no"
"Was this toy scope recommended by the instructor who taught your carbine proficiency course?"
"My what?"

LaserBait  [Team Member]
1/13/2010 6:43:19 PM
Wow...

Just hope the thing doesn't loose zero to the point where you go to shoot a perp, and a innocent gets hit instead.

$400 on a proven optic seems like cheap insurance against a multi-million dollar lawsuit.



If I didn't hate the ChiComs so much, I'd get one and put it on my .50 Beowulf. I betcha it'd take less than a mag full to destroy it from the recoil.


TOMR67  [Member]
1/18/2010 11:36:31 AM
500 rds held zero works well in conjunction with my iron sites, even if it was a real eotech i still would not use it without iron sites, it is my gun not my depts. they can afford them so whatever is on it when i qual is whats on it, if I change something like optics i will need to requal
Tomislav  [Team Member]
1/18/2010 12:05:01 PM
Originally Posted By TOMR67:
500 rds held zero works well in conjunction with my iron sites, even if it was a real eotech i still would not use it without iron sites, it is my gun not my depts. they can afford them so whatever is on it when i qual is whats on it, if I change something like optics i will need to requal


Wow, it managed to hold zero for 500 whole rounds? That is obviously a high-speed piece of kit!
fuzzy03cls  [Member]
1/18/2010 3:37:12 PM
And it didn't blank out due to the recoil? I'd have to see that to believe it. Hey how about some pics of it & of the battery compartment?
kevins_garage  [Member]
1/18/2010 3:39:31 PM
Originally Posted By Aimless:
Airsoft eotech knock off on a duty rifle?

There are cops in my city that use cheap Fobus paddle holsters for detective/plain clothes duties. I seem to recall reading about one or more PD's not that long ago that authorized and/or issued Hi-Point 9mm carbines. I find myself not getting as surprised by stuff like this as I used to...
4A15  [Member]
1/18/2010 4:22:11 PM


500 rounds?
Sorry, but I can't stand to read any more without saying something. You could only afford the toy, but you were able to purchase 500 rounds of 556 for testing purposes? I do not think anyone believes the toy could handle 500 rounds on a rifle. Does the package have any disclaimer in regards to being used on real firearms. It your optic waterproof or fogproof? What if you drop your gun, will it hold up? Green for the night vision? I thought you were making a joke!

The toy is a very real liability you would be taking personally. Your department (hopefully) will not authorize what you have. If you use it anyway, you will be personally liable in a civil suit for operating outside of department policy. Back up irons are great - and in fact required because batteries can go dead. But the purpose of electronic sights is for fast targeting. Using irons with your electronic proves you don't trust your optics.

I have an EOTEC on my AR. It's a working gun. It goes from trunk to closet (or dropped next to the dresser after long shifts) daily. Due to a forward pistol grip, my rifle sits upside down in a soft case, directly on top of the optic. I have never had it loose zero or come loose. I have taken it to the range several times, once in the rain just to say I did - no problems. Before you show up for qual, ask your armor about your optic. Don't tell him you have one. Tell him you saw one and then ask what he thinks.

Sorry brother, if you think it's been tough in here, wait until you find yourself in court.
TheRealBluedog  [Member]
1/18/2010 5:52:08 PM
I don't know the OP, but he started out saying he could not tell the copy from the real thing, then latter said it had red/green reticule, like the real thing. Well, the real thing does not have such a feature, which leads me to suspect he cant' tell the difference because he has never seen or used the real thing.

Second, he has a low post count, links to an Ebay store, and writes a review that sounds a lot like a sales pitch.

Finally, he burns up $250 in ammo to "test" a $60 sight?

I could be off by a mile, but I will not be trusting this review. I'm not a gear queer, but I am an ethical person, and I would never do business with an Ebay seller that pitched it wares through a fake review, if that's what's going on here. (hint)

To the OP, if you are for real, then I apologize for my suspicions. I'm not saying you are hocking the sight, only that it kinda looks that way.
SilentType  [Team Member]
1/18/2010 6:20:48 PM
Originally Posted By Aimless:

Originally Posted By Garandboy:
I'm not the type to judge people or trying out a more affordable sight. I own a couple of Primary Arms M3s but I also own a few real EOtechs and a Bushnell Halo. The more affordable options work fine for their use of punching holes in paper and teaching new shooters.

But you lost me with the duty rifle, I would never use that optic for that. And as others have said, if you where looking for a budget optic they could have steered you to some known products that have been used by members and have the support of the company that sells them.

Yeah I don't care what someone puts on their fungun, or for that matter what they put on their at home gun, if they don't want to listen, so be it. But what happens if this carbine is involved in a shooting? Bad enough in the criminal case, but in a resulting civil case?

"Officer what equipment, if any, did your firearm have on it that did not come with it orginally?"
"Um a scope"
"Was that a scope your department issued and inspected?"
"Well, no..."
"What type of scope was it?"
"It was a toy scope I bought off the internet."
"Excuse, are you saying this was a scope intended for use on children's toys?'
"Well yeah, but ya know I tested it out.."
"Tested it?"
"Well I drove four hours one afternoon to shoot some cans at the range"
'"I see. What scopes do the state police in your area use"
"Aimpoints"
"What about your county's SWAT team?"
"Eotechs"
"Do you know of any police agency that issues toy scopes bought off ebay?"
"Well, no"
"Was this toy scope recommended by the instructor who taught your carbine proficiency course?"
"My what?"



HAHA...exactly. God help you if you shoot someone with a toy sight. Not going to go well for you in a negligence case. Remember as a police officer you're only immune from civil lawsuits yourself until you do something grossly negligent in most states so best not to push yourself into that category.
justin_schuyler  [Member]
1/18/2010 6:30:37 PM
Originally Posted By TheRealBluedog:
I don't know the OP, but he started out saying he could not tell the copy from the real thing, then latter said it had red/green reticule, like the real thing. Well, the real thing does not have such a feature, which leads me to suspect he cant' tell the difference because he has never seen or used the real thing.

Second, he has a low post count, links to an Ebay store, and writes a review that sounds a lot like a sales pitch.

Finally, he burns up $250 in ammo to "test" a $60 sight?

I could be off by a mile, but I will not be trusting this review. I'm not a gear queer, but I am an ethical person, and I would never do business with an Ebay seller that pitched it wares through a fake review, if that's what's going on here. (hint)

To the OP, if you are for real, then I apologize for my suspicions. I'm not saying you are hocking the sight, only that it kinda looks that way.


+1
blwallace5  [Member]
1/18/2010 7:03:33 PM
I don't believe this is a review that can be taken seriously. Too many signs that point out the OP hasn't any idea what he is talking about. Shows that he doesn't know how a real Eotech works, and is promoting this on a duty rifle!

The ad on ebay states they have tested this sight on a .22 rifle, and will not honor their own warranty if used on a .223!

Please do not support a prodct like this, the add says, "Lots of Police department are using these for training." This has fail written all over it.
ArmedPete  [Team Member]
1/19/2010 10:22:25 AM
Coming from a fellow LEO I fear for your life and the lives of others you swore to protect and serve.
I also provide my own carbine, and I saved up for a TA33. Best money I ever spent.
Please consider finding something else. Not just because of the scenario that Aimless spelled out, but to save your life.

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile
topgun40  [Team Member]
1/19/2010 10:52:58 AM
Originally Posted By justin_schuyler:
Originally Posted By TheRealBluedog:
I don't know the OP, but he started out saying he could not tell the copy from the real thing, then latter said it had red/green reticule, like the real thing. Well, the real thing does not have such a feature, which leads me to suspect he cant' tell the difference because he has never seen or used the real thing.

Second, he has a low post count, links to an Ebay store, and writes a review that sounds a lot like a sales pitch.

Finally, he burns up $250 in ammo to "test" a $60 sight?

I could be off by a mile, but I will not be trusting this review. I'm not a gear queer, but I am an ethical person, and I would never do business with an Ebay seller that pitched it wares through a fake review, if that's what's going on here. (hint)

To the OP, if you are for real, then I apologize for my suspicions. I'm not saying you are hocking the sight, only that it kinda looks that way.


+1


++1 I was thinking the same thing..
RolandofGilead  [Team Member]
1/19/2010 11:03:14 AM

Originally Posted By TOMR67:
um if you hit the N/V button the reticle turns green for use with nitevision


Actually the NV button dims the reticle significantly so the bright reticle doesn't wash out your NV goggles....it does NOT turn it green.
kevins_garage  [Member]
1/19/2010 12:31:26 PM
Originally Posted By topgun40:
Originally Posted By justin_schuyler:
Originally Posted By TheRealBluedog:
I don't know the OP, but he started out saying he could not tell the copy from the real thing, then latter said it had red/green reticule, like the real thing. Well, the real thing does not have such a feature, which leads me to suspect he cant' tell the difference because he has never seen or used the real thing.

Second, he has a low post count, links to an Ebay store, and writes a review that sounds a lot like a sales pitch.

Finally, he burns up $250 in ammo to "test" a $60 sight?

I could be off by a mile, but I will not be trusting this review. I'm not a gear queer, but I am an ethical person, and I would never do business with an Ebay seller that pitched it wares through a fake review, if that's what's going on here. (hint)

To the OP, if you are for real, then I apologize for my suspicions. I'm not saying you are hocking the sight, only that it kinda looks that way.


+1


++1 I was thinking the same thing..

There has been a fair amount of "stealth marketing" around here of late in various forums - some of it fairly blatant actually - anything is possible and it wouldn't surprise me.
Aimless  [Site Staff]
1/19/2010 12:40:38 PM

Originally Posted By kevins_garage:


There has been a fair amount of "stealth marketing" around here of late in various forums - some of it fairly blatant actually - anything is possible and it wouldn't surprise me.

if you think that is happening let me know. That will not be tolerated.
Fields_Overseer  [Member]
1/19/2010 1:52:49 PM
a $60 toy on a duty rifle? this HAS GOT to be a joke... im w the above posters on this one... I dont need a rifle for my job and i wouldnt trust anything like that, for hd maybe a Strikefire or PA sight, but anything more demanding id get an aimpoint for a 1x sight. hell, id buy one of the bsa reflexive sights bf i bought and eotech clone.
TOMR67  [Member]
1/19/2010 2:47:25 PM
I am not marketing these I saw a thread here for aimpoint clones and simply put this on here as an information thread, btw i pay around $150 for 500 rds of wolf .223 from a vendor when the gunshow comes around, I went shooting to test out my ops systm i just installed, this "toy" just happened to be mounted at the time so I killed 2 tests at once, i will run another 500 through once my upgraded buffer purchased from a member here arrives and replace the missing j pin in my hammer, in the softcase i use the gun does not sit upside down not sure i would want to spend $$$ on optics and set the gun in my trunk in the case bouncing on the optics

i will no longer reply to this thread since it seems to just bring out people that want to make speculations, if you tried it and it didn't work fine say so the one i have so far works, i may change to something else once i shoot some more and decide if I like this style optic or not, if I don't like it I am out $65 instead of trying to resell something that cost me around $500

I have seen this same speculation and synasism in other threads here and hope it does not show the attitude of the majority of this forums members, heck even in the 20+ page thread on the osprey piston system has guys doing the same thing because they are so hung up on other established name brand setups

if you don't like things made in china you need to get over it since most things are made there now and the quality is not always that bad, look at taiwan and japan we used to say the same things about them, unfortunatly it seems like alot of american companys are pricing themselves out of the market place, when i can find and afford american made items i buy em but it's getting harder to do and alot of items are now made in china but still sold by the american co. under their est. name, some companys need to realize it is better to sell alot at a lower price then few at a high price you still make the same if not more profit

if my spelling and grammer are not up to snuff I got off a 12 this morning then had court and 2 hours off now i am back on for another 12, look on the mg42.us forum i am TOM R there used to be the admin and owners right hand man just don't have the time so i have not posted there in a long time and removed myself from the admin position, i have only been posting here because there is alot of good info here and I don't believe in going to a site like this for info without trying to contribute something, from now on guess I should just take info and not post have a good day all and be safe
ARJJ  [Team Member]
1/19/2010 5:38:14 PM
Originally Posted By TOMR67:
well I like my toy and don't use nite vision for work, but on my salary eotech is waaaaay overpriced imo, especily for poor cops like me that need em our dept. can't afford patrol rifles but policy says we can buy and use our own


I'm gonna assume from your low post count and recent join date that you haven't read all of the threads on here concerning cheap Chinese knock-off optics.

You have it right––you have a TOY––literally. The EOTech clones are designed for airsoft guns...I'd consider using one on a .22 AR clone for training purposes. EOTechs are not way overpriced; in fact you can get used ones in like-new condition here on the EE for $225 if you dare to look around a bit.

As a fellow cop, it concerns me that other officers would use crap equipment that may save their life (or the lives of others) one day. I don't believe for a second that you cannot afford quality equipment. I was able to buy a quality rifle, EOTech, and other accessories, as well as a full duty belt, spare uniforms, and some additional equipment––on $11.40 an hour wage.

Use low-grade equipment if you like, but please don't try to convince me that your $65 clone is as good as a genuine EOTech, or that you can't afford good equipment on a cop's salary.

EDIT: Here's some of what I have purchased through my own funds. It doesn't include the rest of the tac uniform, the $600 vest, patrol bag, rifle case, boots, or M&P40

pseudosuit  [Team Member]
1/19/2010 9:43:03 PM
Ah, so this is why that garbage is still on ebay, people actually buy this crap.
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