Would Center Industries or OKAY Industries sell me 1,000 30rnd magazines direct?
Just trying to cut out the middle man and buy a bunch of mags. I figure if the big outfits can sell them for $8-$10 NIW and shipped, they must be getting the mags somewhere for around $4-$4.50 each. And I figure they must get them straight from the manufacture. So what's to stop me from placing an order with OKAY or Center? Would they let me?
call them up and ask worse they will say is no
Not sure if that would be a big enough order. Try 44Mag first.
Tag. I'd love to know as well.

I seroulsy dought they are selling the magazines for 100% mark-up.
Originally Posted By GraniteClimber:
Just trying to cut out the middle man and buy a bunch of mags. I figure if the big outfits can sell them for $8-$10 NIW and shipped, they must be getting the mags somewhere for around $4-$4.50 each. And I figure they must get them straight from the manufacture. So what's to stop me from placing an order with OKAY or Center? Would they let me?
Besides random guy at the gun show or online, I know of no legitimate businesses selling either Center or Okay mags. (Some actual businesses that stock NHMTG will occasionally have Okay branded mags) This indicates that they are not available to the public.
Your wholesale cost estimate is low by about half.
You should absolutely call them and ask, and post the results.
Your best option, IMO, for would be calling D&H.
I would like to see pictures of that magazine fort.

Call and let us know.
I wonder if an order like that would raise a red flag in some goverment database. Export to a unfriendly country?
Okay Industries actually called me back right away. Their minimum order is 25,000 mags but they put me in touch with their distributor. Waiting for them to return my call.
Originally Posted By Joe_Pennsy:
Originally Posted By GraniteClimber:
Just trying to cut out the middle man and buy a bunch of mags. I figure if the big outfits can sell them for $8-$10 NIW and shipped, they must be getting the mags somewhere for around $4-$4.50 each. And I figure they must get them straight from the manufacture. So what's to stop me from placing an order with OKAY or Center? Would they let me?
Besides random guy at the gun show or online, I know of no legitimate businesses selling either Center or Okay mags. (Some actual businesses that stock NHMTG will occasionally have Okay branded mags) This indicates that they are not available to the public.
Your wholesale cost estimate is low by about half.
You should absolutely call them and ask, and post the results.
Your best option, IMO, for would be calling D&H.
I don't think my wholesale cost is all that far off. There is no pay people are paying $8-$9 for magazines, plus freight, and then selling them for $9-$11 each, usually including shipping. They would be losing money.
I'm thinking $5-6 @ 25,000
Unless the ones i have bought on the EE were stolen. As I have gotten 10 brand new tan follower mags in the wrapper for $60 shipped already on the EE
Those mags came from an expired storage unit, and were mostly all profit.
Well the distributor just sent me the pricing sheet for 20 and 30rnd NHMTG mags. And something can't be right. Because their 20,000 unit price is more than what the mags are going for in the EE.
How would this be possible?
Originally Posted By GraniteClimber:
Well the distributor just sent me the pricing sheet for 20 and 30rnd NHMTG mags. And something can't be right. Because their 20,000 unit price is more than what the mags are going for in the EE.
How would this be possible?
Why?
Bob steals a case of USGI mags from some government depot, or the trucking company, or whatever.
Bob sells them to Jim for $200
Jim sells them off to gunshop dude, gunshow dude, or arfcommer dude for $400.
And they get sold for as low as $6ea new.
That's where the smokin' deals for NIB military mags come from. Gunshop, gunshow, or arfcom dudes are not intentionally or knowingly selling stolen property. As far as they know they just got a great deal and are passing it on.
So what is the wholesale cost?
If a purchaser buys an expired storage unit with said mags, they are not stolen. Haven't you ever seen that discovery channel show?
I hope you are not serious. Those storage locker shows are about a real as WWF wrestling. People that can afford valuable things can pay to store them.
The Gov. pays around $7 each. If you buy a million you can probably get the same price.
Ask and see if any will supply you mags with the new design follower and spring. I would like to here itf they are available for commercial sale.
FWIW...C-products offered Law Enforcment and Military discounts on their mags that priced them in the $4.00-$4.50 a mag for standard USGI milspec green follower aluminum body mags back in 2007/8 When the big O got elected the prices started going up. The cost of gas and the raw materials used to make these mags has all gone up since 2007 as well.
Most of the cheaper mags you see on the market today are not stolen or from a "lucky storage unit" buy. Several Dealers, distributors and even average joes, including members here, bought 30rd USGI mags up by the case left and right as the writing was on the wall when Obama was pulling ahead in polls. They bought with the risk that he wouldn't get elected by hoped that he would and that the "Hi-Cap ban and AWB" would come back. In the post election fear people were buying mags up at higher prices and had an AWB/high cap ban gone through like we saw in the 90's, the mags that those sepculators bought would have trippled in value/cost or more over night.
What you are seeing now are people letting go of the large cases they bought back then.
Wes
I would call DSG
http://dsginc.com/armsproducts_dsgmag.htm
Originally Posted By Wangstang:
Most of the cheaper mags you see on the market today are not stolen or from a "lucky storage unit" buy. Several Dealers, distributors and even average joes, including members here, bought 30rd USGI mags up by the case left and right as the writing was on the wall when Obama was pulling ahead in polls.
I'm interested in knowing who the distributors (not retailers) are that are selling USGI BROWN follower mags made by Brownells, Okay Industries, or Center Industries.
Originally Posted By Joe_Pennsy:
Originally Posted By Wangstang:
Most of the cheaper mags you see on the market today are not stolen or from a "lucky storage unit" buy. Several Dealers, distributors and even average joes, including members here, bought 30rd USGI mags up by the case left and right as the writing was on the wall when Obama was pulling ahead in polls.
I'm interested in knowing who the distributors (not retailers) are that are selling USGI BROWN follower mags made by Brownells, Okay Industries, or Center Industries.
In the last year, I have seen two online stores selling the new USGI brown/tan follower style magazines.
Both online retailers were not well-known to me (ie I had never seen them before). I don't remember their site addresses, but do remember that they wanted $11 or $12 each for the new mags.
Originally Posted By maleante:
Originally Posted By Joe_Pennsy:
Originally Posted By Wangstang:
Most of the cheaper mags you see on the market today are not stolen or from a "lucky storage unit" buy. Several Dealers, distributors and even average joes, including members here, bought 30rd USGI mags up by the case left and right as the writing was on the wall when Obama was pulling ahead in polls.
I'm interested in knowing who the distributors (not retailers) are that are selling USGI BROWN follower mags made by Brownells, Okay Industries, or Center Industries.
In the last year, I have seen two online stores selling the new USGI brown/tan follower style magazines.
Both online retailers were not well-known to me (ie I had never seen them before). I don't remember their site addresses, but do remember that they wanted $11 or $12 each for the new mags.
I'm looking for the distributor that is selling them, not retailer. If they're legitimate, some business entity is supplying the gun shows, gun shops, and individuals that are selling these.
One thing to keep in mind about distributors. If your a new low volume customer, they give you the crappiest prices. If you've ordered a certain amount from them then you get into new pricing tiers.
Nobody is making any worthwhile profit on mags. If they want to flip some they will have more money then they started. But it's nothing compared to selling crap women piss money away on all day every day
Originally Posted By Joe_Pennsy:
Originally Posted By GraniteClimber:
Well the distributor just sent me the pricing sheet for 20 and 30rnd NHMTG mags. And something can't be right. Because their 20,000 unit price is more than what the mags are going for in the EE.
How would this be possible?
Why?
Bob steals a case of USGI mags from some government depot, or the trucking company, or whatever.
Bob sells them to Jim for $200
Jim sells them off to gunshop dude, gunshow dude, or arfcommer dude for $400.
And they get sold for as low as $6ea new.
That's where the smokin' deals for NIB military mags come from. Gunshop, gunshow, or arfcom dudes are not intentionally or knowingly selling stolen property. As far as they know they just got a great deal and are passing it on.
So what is the wholesale cost?
I actually saw a dealer at a show buy a box of 100 magazines for $200. They are the same Center mags with the tan follower. So your not too far off. Yes I asked the dude with the mags if he had anymore to sell and he didn't.
Originally Posted By GraniteClimber:
Well the distributor just sent me the pricing sheet for 20 and 30rnd NHMTG mags. And something can't be right. Because their 20,000 unit price is more than what the mags are going for in the EE.
How would this be possible?
You havent negotiated, you just asked for a price.
Have your tried Brownells? I was issued NIW Brownells mags before my last deployment.
Also, mags are not tracked in the Army. Its like pens walking off.
Originally Posted By Stottman:
Have your tried Brownells? I was issued NIW Brownells mags before my last deployment.
Also, mags are not tracked in the Army. Its like pens walking off.
Funny thing when I went through CRC at Ft. Benning in 2009 they wanted basically everthing back except magazines. We tried to turn them in and they said "we don't want them back". Funny how I frequently read posts on this forum of someone claiming have a deployed relative that never got issued magazines. Then the sponsors would line up to offer to send them some magazines for free
I will sell you some mags, but i don't have those brands
I will address the deployed mags thing . My brother deployed to Iraq he was issued 3 mags and only enough ammo for 1 in the Air Force
Originally Posted By whiskerz:
in the Air Force
That explains it all.
Originally Posted By Stottman:
Also, mags are not tracked in the Army. Its like pens walking off.

yup...
lol
we had CRATES of them..

most of them still had iraqi sand in them from deployments.. lol
first time i saw the crate open it was like seeing the holy grail.
I just left Shank and we had more mags and ammo than we knew what to do with.... If someone doesn't have mags it is a unit problem, not an Army problem...
10 cases is only like a 1/3 of a pallet, not much at all to a mfg. The 25 cases sounds more like it though.
Originally Posted By KurtVF:
I just left Shank and we had more mags and ammo than we knew what to do with.... If someone doesn't have mags it is a unit problem, not an Army problem...
Yup. But try and get a few bullets and it's like signing over your first born.
Heh yea, wish we could get the deals on ammo like that. especially some m885A1 ;)
Originally Posted By SS109:
I wonder if an order like that would raise a red flag in some goverment database. Export to a unfriendly country?
Doubt it. 1k is small potatoes in the grand scheme of things.