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FNFalGuy  [Member]
9/19/2011 12:06:17 AM
I just picked up a few PMAGs and when I got home I found that they worked nicely in my Bushmaster but not in my Armalite.

Why won't my Armalite use these magazines?
UncivilEngineer  [Team Member]
9/19/2011 12:16:33 AM
are they Rev M (foliage green follower)? if not, try shaving the little nubs about 1/3 of the way down on the back with a utility knife.
WShifflett  [Team Member]
9/19/2011 12:27:26 AM
Originally Posted By UncivilEngineer:
are they Rev M (foliage green follower)? if not, try shaving the little nubs about 1/3 of the way down on the back with a utility knife.


If you alter them you void the warranty.
UncivilEngineer  [Team Member]
9/19/2011 12:59:19 AM

Originally Posted By WShifflett:
Originally Posted By UncivilEngineer:
are they Rev M (foliage green follower)? if not, try shaving the little nubs about 1/3 of the way down on the back with a utility knife.


If you alter them you void the warranty.

I'd rather have a mag that fits in any lower than possibly save $12 if I crack it someday.
WShifflett  [Team Member]
9/19/2011 1:50:29 AM
Originally Posted By UncivilEngineer:

Originally Posted By WShifflett:
Originally Posted By UncivilEngineer:
are they Rev M (foliage green follower)? if not, try shaving the little nubs about 1/3 of the way down on the back with a utility knife.


If you alter them you void the warranty.

I'd rather have a mag that fits in any lower than possibly save $12 if I crack it someday.


What if you screw up? No mag or $12.
Norinco982lover  [Member]
9/19/2011 3:22:06 AM
Originally Posted By WShifflett:
Originally Posted By UncivilEngineer:

Originally Posted By WShifflett:
Originally Posted By UncivilEngineer:
are they Rev M (foliage green follower)? if not, try shaving the little nubs about 1/3 of the way down on the back with a utility knife.


If you alter them you void the warranty.

I'd rather have a mag that fits in any lower than possibly save $12 if I crack it someday.


What if you screw up? No mag or $12.


Are you kidding me?

If you don't mod it...no mag and no $12. Pmags don't need a silly warranty...and aren't worth anything if they don't fit in my gun.
UncivilEngineer  [Team Member]
9/19/2011 6:10:23 AM

Originally Posted By WShifflett:
Originally Posted By UncivilEngineer:

Originally Posted By WShifflett:
Originally Posted By UncivilEngineer:
are they Rev M (foliage green follower)? if not, try shaving the little nubs about 1/3 of the way down on the back with a utility knife.


If you alter them you void the warranty.

I'd rather have a mag that fits in any lower than possibly save $12 if I crack it someday.


What if you screw up? No mag or $12.

I don't think you understand what I'm describing. You basically shave off two small bumps that kept the mag tight in the magwell (and have been deleted on the latest version). Pretty hard to ruin the mag unless you insist on using an angle grinder or some other power tool.
WarLord31  [Team Member]
9/19/2011 8:27:32 AM
Originally Posted By UncivilEngineer:
are they Rev M (foliage green follower)? if not, try shaving the little nubs about 1/3 of the way down on the back with a utility knife.


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WShifflett  [Team Member]
9/19/2011 8:34:15 AM
Originally Posted By Norinco982lover:
Originally Posted By WShifflett:
Originally Posted By UncivilEngineer:

Originally Posted By WShifflett:
Originally Posted By UncivilEngineer:
are they Rev M (foliage green follower)? if not, try shaving the little nubs about 1/3 of the way down on the back with a utility knife.


If you alter them you void the warranty.

I'd rather have a mag that fits in any lower than possibly save $12 if I crack it someday.


What if you screw up? No mag or $12.


Are you kidding me?

If you don't mod it...no mag and no $12. Pmags don't need a silly warranty...and aren't worth anything if they don't fit in my gun.


I dont own a Pmag anymore and dont really care what you do with yours. I just know that if I had one that wasnt working for whatever reason Id call Magpul before I did any alterations to it.

WI57  [Team Member]
9/19/2011 9:39:16 AM
Originally Posted By WShifflett:
Originally Posted By Norinco982lover:
Originally Posted By WShifflett:
Originally Posted By UncivilEngineer:

Originally Posted By WShifflett:
Originally Posted By UncivilEngineer:
are they Rev M (foliage green follower)? if not, try shaving the little nubs about 1/3 of the way down on the back with a utility knife.


If you alter them you void the warranty.

I'd rather have a mag that fits in any lower than possibly save $12 if I crack it someday.


What if you screw up? No mag or $12.


Are you kidding me?

If you don't mod it...no mag and no $12. Pmags don't need a silly warranty...and aren't worth anything if they don't fit in my gun.


I dont own a Pmag anymore and dont really care what you do with yours. I just know that if I had one that wasnt working for whatever reason Id call Magpul before I did any alterations to it.
http://i971.photobucket.com/albums/ae200/wshiffett/2011-09-10214547.jpg


Contact magpul, they will try to work with you.
Most people on here will tell you its a problem with your rifle.
Funny how fitting a mag to a rifle voids the lifetime warranty.

If the mags don't work out trade them off for mags that work.

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FNFalGuy  [Member]
9/19/2011 7:04:56 PM
The mag fits perfect in the Bushy but fails to lock in place in the Armalite, even with the bolt open. The funny part is that I sold 3 Thermold mags that did nearly the same thing in order to fund these PMAGs.

WShifflett  [Team Member]
9/19/2011 7:43:03 PM
Originally Posted By FNFalGuy:
The mag fits perfect in the Bushy but fails to lock in place in the Armalite, even with the bolt open. The funny part is that I sold 3 Thermold mags that did nearly the same thing in order to fund these PMAGs.



Whats the common denominator here?
FNFalGuy  [Member]
9/19/2011 7:47:55 PM
Originally Posted By WShifflett:
Originally Posted By FNFalGuy:
The mag fits perfect in the Bushy but fails to lock in place in the Armalite, even with the bolt open. The funny part is that I sold 3 Thermold mags that did nearly the same thing in order to fund these PMAGs.



Whats the common denominator here?



None of my metal magazines have this problem but all of the plastic mags seem to have something that differs from rifle to rifle.


WI57  [Team Member]
9/19/2011 9:41:40 PM
Originally Posted By WShifflett:
Originally Posted By FNFalGuy:
The mag fits perfect in the Bushy but fails to lock in place in the Armalite, even with the bolt open. The funny part is that I sold 3 Thermold mags that did nearly the same thing in order to fund these PMAGs.



Whats the common denominator here?


Plastic magazines that fail to work?

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WShifflett  [Team Member]
9/19/2011 10:07:11 PM
Originally Posted By FNFalGuy:
Originally Posted By WShifflett:
Originally Posted By FNFalGuy:
The mag fits perfect in the Bushy but fails to lock in place in the Armalite, even with the bolt open. The funny part is that I sold 3 Thermold mags that did nearly the same thing in order to fund these PMAGs.



Whats the common denominator here?



None of my metal magazines have this problem but all of the plastic mags seem to have something that differs from rifle to rifle.




You start by telling us that mag A doesnt work right in your rifle. Then you come out with mag B that does the same thing. Sounds like a gun issue... But wait! Theres a mag C that does work so lets go with the bold font and angry face because we should know that! Yea Im done here. Find someone else to wipe your nose.

FNFalGuy  [Member]
9/20/2011 8:37:19 PM
Metal mags for me from this point forward. I wouldn't have thought that MagPul would've given me the same issue as the Thermold mags did.

...thanks so much for the adult conversation as well!?

ARS24-7  [Team Member]
9/20/2011 9:05:29 PM
Did you try turning your mag catch a turn or two on the Armalite?
WI57  [Team Member]
9/20/2011 9:07:15 PM
Originally Posted By FNFalGuy:
Metal mags for me from this point forward. I wouldn't have thought that MagPul would've given me the same issue as the Thermold mags did.

...thanks so much for the adult conversation as well!?



Did you try contacting magpul?

They will probably offer to swap mags with you in hopes the new ones are able to function in your lower.



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FNFalGuy  [Member]
9/20/2011 9:15:58 PM
I e-mailed MagPul but haven't heard back from them yet.
WI57  [Team Member]
9/20/2011 9:37:01 PM
Originally Posted By FNFalGuy:
I e-mailed MagPul but haven't heard back from them yet.


I still have unanswered emails out to magpul from this spring.
It is 100x better to just call them, they will answer their phone.
Or IM them on here, surprised they haven't contacted you yet.

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WarLord31  [Team Member]
9/21/2011 7:40:13 AM
Aimless - where art thou? Waiting to hear ya chew out posters on this thread, like my post several weeks ago... For no obvious reasons...

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Justin-Beard  [Industry Partner]
9/21/2011 11:03:10 AM
Originally Posted By FNFalGuy:
I e-mailed MagPul but haven't heard back from them yet.

To where did you happen to send that email to? Sorry, I don't see anything in techsupport@, magpul@, or orders@.

Regardless, what specific issues are you having (it sounds like they may not be locking in)? Are they not staying locked in or are they not locking in at all? Do you have a 45deg. chamfer around all four inside edges of your magwell similar to the top receiver shown below?


WI57  [Team Member]
9/21/2011 11:04:09 AM
Originally Posted By WarLord31:
Aimless - where art thou? Waiting to hear ya chew out posters on this thread, like my post several weeks ago... For no obvious reasons...

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No, this thread will just disappear.

So IBTE (In Before The Edits).

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FNFalGuy  [Member]
9/21/2011 6:20:37 PM
Justin,

I sent the e-mail to Techsupport@magpul.com on 9/19.

The mags are not locking in at all but I still have to tug on them pretty hard to get them back out of the mag well. Based on your photographs, I have the chamfered, 45 degree magwell design on my M-15 Carbine from Armalite.

FNFalGuy  [Member]
9/27/2011 10:07:09 PM
Still no word from MagPul regarding my problems with their product since Justin's last post.
Justin-Beard  [Industry Partner]
9/28/2011 11:02:03 AM
Originally Posted By FNFalGuy:
Still no word from MagPul regarding my problems with their product since Justin's last post.

Sorry man. As mentioned before, I could not find anything in techsupport@. Have you tried emailing me directly or calling us toll free at 877-4MAGPUL?
dpmmn  [Moderator]
9/28/2011 10:13:19 PM

Originally Posted By WI57:

No, this thread will just disappear.

So IBTE (In Before The Edits).


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It's posting like the one above that will get a thread locked or trashed

If you have a problem with the way I or anyone else Moderates this forum feel free to contact me at anytime

I don't edit posts because someone is getting slammed, all I ask it that you keep it polite and professional
If it turns into a slam fest I'll do the obvious it usually accompanied by a system message
dpmmn  [Moderator]
9/28/2011 10:15:28 PM

Originally Posted By Justin-Beard:
Originally Posted By FNFalGuy:
Still no word from MagPul regarding my problems with their product since Justin's last post.

Sorry man. As mentioned before, I could not find anything in techsupport@. Have you tried emailing me directly or calling us toll free at 877-4MAGPUL?


FNFalGuy  [Member]
9/28/2011 10:58:59 PM
Justin - I'll give you guys a call. I'm not sure what happened to the e-mail that I sent you.
WI57  [Team Member]
9/29/2011 12:53:20 PM
Originally Posted By dpmmn:

Originally Posted By WI57:

No, this thread will just disappear.

So IBTE (In Before The Edits).


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It's posting like the one above that will get a thread locked or trashed

If you have a problem with the way I or anyone else Moderates this forum feel free to contact me at anytime

I don't edit posts because someone is getting slammed, all I ask it that you keep it polite and professional
If it turns into a slam fest I'll do the obvious it usually accompanied by a system message

I do not have a problem with you at all.
You may not edit posts but a number of other mods will.
I am stating what usually happens when someone has a problem with a magpul product.
9 times out of 10 people gang up on the OP because "it must be a problem with your rifle."


I have tried to get the OP to contact magpul because they will work with him to get the problem fixed.
I have emailed magpul and have never gotten a reply, but 2 min on the phone solved my problem with surprisingly positive results.


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FNFalGuy  [Member]
9/29/2011 9:53:40 PM
W157,

Thanks for letting me be heard and for giving me some insight regardind working this matter with MagPul.

Vulcanator  [Member]
10/1/2011 12:50:36 AM
I just purchased a 20 round P-MAG for my Bushmaster, at the range last weekend, it would not lock open the bolt on my last shot. I called Magpul last Monday, despite the fact I did not buy it direct from them, they sent me a replacement plus an RMA for my defective mag - that's good service in my book. I got the new mag today, tried it in my rifle - same problem! I removed the lower receiver and found after careful inspection the front of the bolt release catch was rubbing against the back of the mag. I judiciously used an X-CATO knife to shave a few thou. from the affected area - problem solved. I'll be returning my defective mag with an explanation of my findings so they can fix this issue. I have 3 of their 30 round mags and they work flawlessly, so I'll be buying more in the future
Unicorn  [Industry Partner]
10/25/2011 8:12:25 AM
Your Armalite more than a year, year and a half old?

P-Mag (and other plastic mags) tight going in and coming out? Almost like they are sticking?

You'll either have to modify the mags, or just live with the fact that your Armalite doesn't like plastic mags and only use metal. The magwell in the Armalite was designed before Pmags existed, and the size and shape doesn't like the slightly larger Pmag body. Newer Armalites have fixed this.
Both are good products, they just don't play well together all the time.