m&p 15-22p fake buffer tube
has anyone made a fake buffer tube for one of these pistols. Is it a no-no? have the machinary to do it, but don't know if i should. if it is allowed is there a max length i can make it. can i make it detachable? would like a place to set my cheek on the gun. thanks also posted this on ar pistol forum
Wondered about this myself.
AR 'pistols' have the naked buffer tube sticking out the back, but there is no compelling reason it couldn't be used as a 'stock', considering the mild recoil of the 5.56 cartridge.
Curious what the hive has to say.
Pistol fan 5,
I'm in the process of building an AR pistol myself and as of today, I was wondering the same thing. I'm using the ACE .22 receiver plug that's threaded on both ends and I would love if somebody, like ACE, to make an exstended end-cap for their receiver plug that it can simply be screwed on, to help reference the cheek to the rear sight.
For the various tastes, I feel that if a product was made, it should come in several sizes like;
As for me, I would buy all 3 sizes so I can swap them out as needed in the future... I think that the above sizes protects anybody from somebody stating that you are building or using an illegal stock on a non-SBR pistol. Also, I would prefer for the end-cap NOT to have a sling mounting point since (IMHO) that one's like MagPul's ASAP Ambidextrous Sling Attachment Point would be pretty cool.
If anybody out there with a machine/tooling shop, would this be an expensive project? To be honest, I don't really know, but my guts tell me that it wouldn't cost an arm and a leg.
With the cost of ammo sky rocketing, I feel that the "military styled" .22 LR weapon's market will only grow larger and with the AR system being big with American shooters, so money can be made
bergunx, i agree with you in that it would not take too much to internally thread a tube to mount on an ar pistol. the thing that gets me is what the atf thinks about it. in a non rimfire ar the buffer tube is needed to make the gun function. in my case an S&W mp 15-22p it is not needed to let the gun function.
On the surface you think all is just a simple matter of parts, but it goes well beyond that legally.
The M&P15-22 Pistol met ATF approval in the configuration as sold to you. You own a pistol
in the eyes of the law. But you reason, it could be so much better if I did it my way. The result
could put a legal hurting on you.
What confronts you is the question of making an illegal combination of parts. Your pistol was
approved for sale NEVER having a stock or a stock type buffer tube. Thus they can argue that
your gun was never meant to have a stock, and the addition of any stock other than the original now
places it in the SBR category.
Under BATFE, FFL, you as a consumer, have no legal right to make a Federally recognized and
legally transfered pistol into a rifle, nor do you have the right to make a legally transfered rifle
into a pistol - without the permission of ATF.
Lets say you own the M&P 15-22 Pistol and an M&P 15-22 Carbine, if you could swap the pistol
upper with the carbine lower (as you can with real AR's), would that be O.K.? No. You would've made
an SBR using an illegal combination of parts. How about putting a pistol buffer tube on your carbine?
Again, this is an illegal combination of parts as ONLY a carbine or rifle buffer/stock belongs on those types.
Just because you have the ability to make combinations of guns/parts into something you like, doesn't make
it right. But don't take my word for it. Let's say I'm full of shit and you go do what you want because YOU know
better, and besides, who'll know or care? Here is some sobering insight for you: ATF has the right to arrest you
and confiscate your gun if they feel ANYTHING is questionable. Then it will be up to you to defend yourself in a
Federal Court of a hostile anti-gun administration. Good luck with that.
In closing, would you get serious medical advice from some people on the WWW, or would you see a doctor? For
something this serious, why not contact BATFE? They have an e-mail service which may take a week or two to get
an answer, but it could save your ass. Just a thought.
ted thanks for the info, sound advice. this about the same advice i received from the ar pistol forms.