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 Please list 9mm Ars that take Glock mags.
KnightofTheOldeCode  [Team Member]
10/19/2010 8:16:26 AM
Thanks gents
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GLOCKshooter  [Team Member]
10/19/2010 9:13:41 AM
Lone Wolf Dist makes a GLOCK mag lower.
http://www.lonewolfdist.com/Products.aspx?CAT=288

JR Carbine
http://www.emf-company.com/store/pc/THE-J-R-CARBINE-c268.htm

MGI Military makes left handed receivers and bolts. They also make interchangeable mag wells, including a GLOCK .45 version. They have one that takes GLOCK .40's and 9mm's, but have not yet bought it to market.

http://www.mgi-military.com/index.php?id=1
CyberIntel  [Team Member]
10/19/2010 9:28:10 AM
Originally Posted By KnightofTheOldeCode:
Do any of the AR 9mm carbines use 9mm Glock mags?

What is shooting the 9mm ARs like? Is there more smoke blown back than a DI rifle?

I have tried a couple non AR carbines and was eating brass, how do the AR 9mms work for leftys? Thanks for all the advice gents!





Some people notice more recoil with 9mm guns since they are straihght blowback, not DI. Is there more smoke? Huh? Providing you are using ammunition loaded with smokeless powder, no. Why would there be? Now, if you're shooting lead bullets in your 9mm carbine there probably would be since you're brning bullet lube.

AR15 pattern rifles have brass deflectors. It's the big hump on the side of the rifle, and the 9mm guns have one that is even more exagerated. Not a concern.
GLOCKshooter  [Team Member]
10/19/2010 9:32:51 AM
I have been waiting impatiently for one to break out from the pack and become the accepted standard before I commit. It is not an AR, but MSAR has a contender in the works. Unfortunately, like MGI, they have not brought it to market.

Other options include the Kel Tec folding carbine
http://www.keltecweapons.com/our-guns/rifles/sub-2000/

and the Mech Tech CCU.
http://www.mechtechsys.com/

Finally, you could get an SBR tax stamp from ATF and get a shell like a HERA.

http://hera-arms.com/gcc.php

http://hera-arms.com/triarii.php
Circuits  [Team Member]
10/19/2010 11:53:03 AM
Originally Posted By KnightofTheOldeCode:
Do any of the AR 9mm carbines use 9mm Glock mags?

What is shooting the 9mm ARs like? Is there more smoke blown back than a DI rifle?

I have tried a couple non AR carbines and was eating brass, how do the AR 9mms work for leftys? Thanks for all the advice gents!




Olympic has also had glock-mag lowers for at least 10 years now.
HardShell  [Life Member]
10/19/2010 1:06:54 PM

Originally Posted By Circuits:

Olympic has also had glock-mag lowers for at least 10 years now.

I believe they only sell them as complete rifles, no separate lowers (I know that used to be the case, at least). IMHO, that cost them sales to a lot of the DIY crowd here and left the market ripe for the lowers linked above.

I have two of the Oly GL-series 9mm ARs and they have been great. Not a single malfunction yet with factory Glock mags. If you can get one at a reasonable price I recommend them highly, but the last new retail price I saw was a still a bit high IMO. I willingly overpaid for my first one, because I wanted one of the first ones when they originally came out; I got a much better deal on a barely-used one the second time.

FTR, I had an older Oly 9mm AR (Sten mag/block version) for years before getting these. It was also a great and problem-free carbine out of the box, and I had Kurt Wala make it even better still. The only reason I eventually parted with that one was I never shot it anymore once I got the Glock-magged models.


Here they are, on either side of a KT SUB that also uses Glock mags (cropped from a larger pic). Neither one is still in the configuration pictured, but I don't have any more current pics...





And here's an even older pic of the first one that I took to demonstrate that all 9mm Glocks will fit and feed these ARs, even the stubby little G26 mag...



GLOCKshooter  [Team Member]
10/22/2010 8:57:41 AM
No promises, but positive rumblings from MGI...

Stay tuned!
KnightofTheOldeCode  [Team Member]
10/22/2010 10:10:13 AM
Thanks for the post gents. MGI is offering a left hand eject model? Didn't see it on their site..
GLOCKshooter  [Team Member]
10/22/2010 6:32:00 PM
http://www.mgimilitary.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6_7_9&products_id=30

Complete bolt carrier (including bolt) for our left-handed upper receiver. Available in semiautomatic only at this time.
rjrivero  [Member]
10/22/2010 9:00:27 PM
This is my Lone Wolf Lower in 9mm.



It's smooth, and accurate. No smoke to speak of. I don't shoot lefty so I can't help you there.
GLOCKshooter  [Team Member]
10/23/2010 7:49:33 AM
That's pretty sexy. I may not be able to hold out much longer. How does it do with hollowpoints?
slickbt  [Team Member]
11/1/2010 3:20:56 PM
i haven't heard any complaints from left-handed shooters using my 9mm, even when using a can. same goes for the AR-45.

If you are near Columbus, I believe that Aim Hi has a Colt 9mm you can rent, or you can catch me at Deer Creek or the Powder Room to try one of mine.

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rjrivero  [Member]
11/1/2010 3:52:30 PM
Originally Posted By GLOCKshooter:
That's pretty sexy. I may not be able to hold out much longer. How does it do with hollowpoints?


Sorry for the late reply. I haven't shot any hollow point through it. Maybe I can load some up and see how it goes........
HK_DUDE  [Team Member]
11/2/2010 12:20:55 AM
Originally Posted By GLOCKshooter:
That's pretty sexy. I may not be able to hold out much longer. How does it do with hollowpoints?


I have been running my LW glock lower equiped 9mm AR lately. Last time I was out, I grabbed a bag in my safe that had a mixed lot of my old 9mm reloads, mixed from 115gr FMJ and 147gr HPs.....it ran them all without a hiccup. I think this thing will feed everything, becuse the round goes pretty much right from the mag into the chamber.

Hope this helps.
GLOCKshooter  [Team Member]
11/2/2010 8:47:16 AM
Are you running an Olympic bolt and barrel (cone shaped bolt, better feeding geometry, but weaker ejector) or Colt pattern (pretty much anything but Oly)?
HK_DUDE  [Team Member]
11/2/2010 9:55:40 AM
RRA bolt assembly and barrel (Colt style of course) I had ADCO narrow the bottom of the bolt for the single feed glock mag lips.

I am on the way out again now to run another 100 rounds through it and get it sighted with the MBUS sights I have on it.
Onslaught  [Team Member]
11/2/2010 10:31:27 AM
I am left handed and my 9mm ARs are my favorite to shoot. I switched all my 5.56 uppers to lefty because of the gas blowback from the carbine gas system, but no such issue with the 9mm.
Uofaspyder  [Member]
11/3/2010 12:30:25 AM
A new Glock dedicated lower is set to come to the market before the next SHOT show.

Brazos_Jack  [Member]
11/3/2010 2:45:45 AM
Originally Posted By GLOCKshooter:
No promises, but positive rumblings from MGI...

Stay tuned!


Glock Shooter,

Please keep me in the loop on this. I have 2 AR's on MGI modular uppers and lowers. I have a 9mm barrel, bolt, and MGI mag well for Colt mags. I've been waiting on MGI to release the long promised Glock 9mm Mag Well for a couple of years now.

Brazos Jack
morghealbot  [Team Member]
11/3/2010 9:27:26 AM
no comment on the lefty thing, but i have noticed a lot of smoke when i rapid-fire or bump my carbon15 bushmaster 9mm..smoke comes from the hole in upper left from having no gas tube....no big problem, but if i went FA with the thing it would obscure my optics
HK_DUDE  [Team Member]
11/3/2010 9:37:51 AM
Originally Posted By morghealbot:
no comment on the lefty thing, but i have noticed a lot of smoke when i rapid-fire or bump my carbon15 bushmaster 9mm..smoke comes from the hole in upper left from having no gas tube....no big problem, but if i went FA with the thing it would obscure my optics


Are you shooting lead bullets?
morghealbot  [Team Member]
11/3/2010 10:28:46 AM
Originally Posted By HK_DUDE:
Originally Posted By morghealbot:
no comment on the lefty thing, but i have noticed a lot of smoke when i rapid-fire or bump my carbon15 bushmaster 9mm..smoke comes from the hole in upper left from having no gas tube....no big problem, but if i went FA with the thing it would obscure my optics


Are you shooting lead bullets?


i shoot anything lying around..smoke is worst with the CTD BVAC's, but even whitebox smokes a bit....it's my only 9mm ar,so i am not sure what is normal..

HK_DUDE  [Team Member]
11/3/2010 11:30:44 AM
I get a little smoke too, more then a 5.56....which seems to have no smoke.

I just know when I have shot lead bullets that the lube seems to be burning and smoking as you fire. Very noticable.

CWatson  [Member]
11/7/2010 11:49:04 PM
Originally Posted By Uofaspyder:
A new Glock dedicated lower is set to come to the market before the next SHOT show.




Who will be making it?


CW
HK_DUDE  [Team Member]
11/8/2010 12:14:39 PM
Originally Posted By CWatson:
Originally Posted By Uofaspyder:
A new Glock dedicated lower is set to come to the market before the next SHOT show.




Who will be making it?


CW


+1 ..............do tell!
autumnsong  [Team Member]
11/8/2010 12:45:07 PM
My Oly K9GL runs like a champ with any 9mm Glock mags. I SBR'd it and have a Trident 9 suppressor on a 3 lug for it. I highly recommend one if you can find a deal on one.
KnightofTheOldeCode  [Team Member]
12/7/2010 8:03:21 PM
Stag just needs to get around to making a left handed 9mm that takes Glock 9mm mags..
HardShell  [Life Member]
12/8/2010 9:59:17 AM

Originally Posted By KnightofTheOldeCode:
Stag just needs to get around to making a left handed 9mm that takes Glock 9mm mags..

I have a detective buddy who would be all over that, but in .40.

(He's a southpaw and carries a G23 with a G27 BUG... it would be perfect for him. )
Uofaspyder  [Member]
12/12/2010 3:02:49 AM
Originally Posted By HK_DUDE:
Originally Posted By CWatson:
Originally Posted By Uofaspyder:
A new Glock dedicated lower is set to come to the market before the next SHOT show.




Who will be making it?


CW


+1 ..............do tell!


Sorry for the delay, I wanted to wait until I got the "go ahead" from them that it be public. DDLES is coming out with a Billet Glock 9mm lower.

It is supposed to be out early this Spring, their goal is to have it read for SHOT. It isn't on their website or anything yet, I believe that I am probably the first one to put it out as public info, but I got an email response tonight from Jon that is all right to put it out there. I have been to their shop a few times, watched the CNC machines cut their lowers. I have said before if they made a Glock upper I would take one in a heartbeat, and I will be getting one of the first few.

rjrivero  [Member]
12/12/2010 3:04:45 AM
Originally Posted By Uofaspyder:
Originally Posted By HK_DUDE:
Originally Posted By CWatson:
Originally Posted By Uofaspyder:
A new Glock dedicated lower is set to come to the market before the next SHOT show.




Who will be making it?


CW


+1 ..............do tell!


Sorry for the delay, I wanted to wait until I got the "go ahead" from them that it be public. DDLES is coming out with a Billet Glock 9mm lower.

It is supposed to be out early this Spring, their goal is to have it read for SHOT. It isn't on their website or anything yet, I believe that I am probably the first one to put it out as public info, but I got an email response tonight from Jon that is all right to put it out there. I have been to their shop a few times, watched the CNC machines cut their lowers. I have said before if they made a Glock upper I would take one in a heartbeat, and I will be getting one of the first few.



VERY nice. VERY tempting. They make NICE stuff......
BRONZ  [Team Member]
12/12/2010 7:45:58 AM
going be a short list.
Uofaspyder  [Member]
12/12/2010 12:34:10 PM
Originally Posted By rjrivero:
Originally Posted By Uofaspyder:
Originally Posted By HK_DUDE:
Originally Posted By CWatson:
Originally Posted By Uofaspyder:
A new Glock dedicated lower is set to come to the market before the next SHOT show.




Who will be making it?


CW


+1 ..............do tell!


Sorry for the delay, I wanted to wait until I got the "go ahead" from them that it be public. DDLES is coming out with a Billet Glock 9mm lower.

It is supposed to be out early this Spring, their goal is to have it read for SHOT. It isn't on their website or anything yet, I believe that I am probably the first one to put it out as public info, but I got an email response tonight from Jon that is all right to put it out there. I have been to their shop a few times, watched the CNC machines cut their lowers. I have said before if they made a Glock upper I would take one in a heartbeat, and I will be getting one of the first few.



VERY nice. VERY tempting. They make NICE stuff......


At this point they said they plan to price a stripped lower like their other 9mm lowers. They do make nice stuff, they have some new selection markings too, a modification of the HK style, I like them alot. I have ADCO building up a custom 7" barreled upper for mine. I am very excited. I hope that with tax stamps (going to SBR my lower) and everthing I will have it done and cleared for my B-day late March!
RedZ71  [Team Member]
12/13/2010 10:16:08 AM
i like the concept of a lower that takes glock mags. i wish doublediamonds awesomely shaped lower took glock mags.
GLOCKshooter  [Team Member]
12/13/2010 10:23:17 AM
Look one post up from yours, and you will see that they are going to do just that. DDLES is Double Diamonds.
Originally Posted By RedZ71:
i like the concept of a lower that takes glock mags. i wish doublediamonds awesomely shaped lower took glock mags.


dumbyhotshot  [Member]
12/23/2010 9:38:23 PM
I saw a 9mm AR today at a local gun shop that uses glock mags. It was stamped Mitchel(I think?) Machine Tool LLC. Had a free float rail, collapsible stock and the lower receiver magazine well was sized for glock mags(ie. didn't look anything like an AR15). Everything else looked AR15. Price was ~$700. Anyone know anything about this brand. I may be wrong on the Mitchell part, google shows nothing.
SeanC  [Team Member]
12/23/2010 10:12:34 PM
Originally Posted By dumbyhotshot:
I saw a 9mm AR today at a local gun shop that uses glock mags. It was stamped Mitchel(I think?) Machine Tool LLC. Had a free float rail, collapsible stock and the lower receiver magazine well was sized for glock mags(ie. didn't look anything like an AR15). Everything else looked AR15. Price was ~$700. Anyone know anything about this brand. I may be wrong on the Mitchell part, google shows nothing.


Did it look like this?

EMF
CapeBretoner  [Team Member]
12/23/2010 10:35:23 PM
I have been running an OLY K9GL for a few years, pushing it hard in 2-gun, in all kinds of weather and shooting positions,etc. with absolute reliability. They also have a 40 SW model.

Only issue was that I was running it so much that I developed a bit of a "training scar" in that I would sometimes find myself trying to stuff a glock mag in a 5.56 AR if I wasn't running the K9GL.

Be careful what you wish for . . .

We are creatures of habit whether we like to admit it or not.

I had to start carrying my AR mag's in the same location regardless of the caliber (and separate from my pistol mags despite running Glock 9mm mags in both) to defeat the training scar (especially important in low-light shoots).
dumbyhotshot  [Member]
12/23/2010 10:35:56 PM
Similiar to the EMF but not quite the same. The bolt handle was a little different.
duncan  [Team Member]
12/23/2010 10:41:17 PM
Guys, Olympic Arms has been manufacturing their own dedicated 9mm and 40SW Glock lowers for almost two decades. They know what they are doing. Lots of happy shooters around here. Few haters too. We need to start reasonably including them in these discussions.

Other than Colt and Olympic Arms, the rest of these guys have others manufacture their lowers and uppers with the customers logos and markings under contract. Or they do one-offs but not mass production level.

My Oly Arms 9mm AR15 carbine has been plugging holes for a decade like a Timex. Round count unknown but in multiples of 10,000 as I reload a case of 9mm in less than two hours.

1, Oly just 10 months ago came out with their own polymer 9mm, 40SW, 10mm and 45 ACP mags - no one else has made that investment in the pistol cal AR business; All of them; 40SW and 10mm which no one else is touching; AND

2. Really important, with an Olympic Arms K9GL 9mm AR15 carbine, you can swap on an Oly K40GL 40SW upper for another $600 and have a setup that shoots 9mm and 40SW using the same Oly Glock lower. Just use the right Glock mags.

If you want a Colt/RRA 9mm AR15 fine. Colt spent their money on rejuvenating the Colt Delta Elite and licensing the .22lr carbine to UMAX apparently. RRA is working on some 40SW AR15 carbines for the FBI. Otherwise, they are not investing in the pistol caliber AR15 space.

Olympic Arms is. Support them.
TehGreatMutato  [Member]
12/24/2010 7:07:16 AM
Originally Posted By rjrivero:
This is my Lone Wolf Lower in 9mm.

http://www.revolverforums.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=46&pictureid=266

It's smooth, and accurate. No smoke to speak of. I don't shoot lefty so I can't help you there.


Mmmmm.

There's an empty place in my heart now.
KnightofTheOldeCode  [Team Member]
12/27/2010 12:11:35 AM

Hm, anyone know what this could be?

Originally Posted By dumbyhotshot:
Similiar to the EMF but not quite the same. The bolt handle was a little different.


d13s3l  [Team Member]
12/27/2010 12:57:47 AM
Originally Posted By Uofaspyder:
<snip>
DDLES is coming out with a Billet Glock 9mm lower.
<snip>


^^^ very interested in this

i have been following the LW lowers. would like some more info on DDLES ones
MaxxII  [Team Member]
12/27/2010 1:37:30 AM
Link to DDLES

Double Diamond Law Enforcement Sales

Nick
dumbyhotshot  [Member]
12/28/2010 12:04:20 AM
I'm going to take another look and ask some questions since google isn't showing anything.
Originally Posted By KnightofTheOldeCode:

Hm, anyone know what this could be?

Originally Posted By dumbyhotshot:
Similiar to the EMF but not quite the same. The bolt handle was a little different.




Onslaught  [Team Member]
12/28/2010 3:34:44 PM
Originally Posted By dumbyhotshot:
Similiar to the EMF but not quite the same. The bolt handle was a little different.


Not hearing ANYTHING good about the EMF other than their customer service. Check out the Vault/Pistol Caliber Carbine section. Maybe the poor guy with the malfunctioning EMF can tell you if Mitchell Machine and Tool is stamped on it anywhere.
KnightofTheOldeCode  [Team Member]
1/1/2011 9:20:22 AM

I think this is the one you are thinking of.

Thureon Defense Carbine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7O21DZ6Sto&feature=related


Originally Posted By Onslaught:
Originally Posted By dumbyhotshot:
Similiar to the EMF but not quite the same. The bolt handle was a little different.


Not hearing ANYTHING good about the EMF other than their customer service. Check out the Vault/Pistol Caliber Carbine section. Maybe the poor guy with the malfunctioning EMF can tell you if Mitchell Machine and Tool is stamped on it anywhere.


mylt1  [Member]
1/2/2011 10:05:52 PM
Originally Posted By KnightofTheOldeCode:

I think this is the one you are thinking of.

Thureon Defense Carbine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7O21DZ6Sto&feature=related


Originally Posted By Onslaught:
Originally Posted By dumbyhotshot:
Similiar to the EMF but not quite the same. The bolt handle was a little different.


Not hearing ANYTHING good about the EMF other than their customer service. Check out the Vault/Pistol Caliber Carbine section. Maybe the poor guy with the malfunctioning EMF can tell you if Mitchell Machine and Tool is stamped on it anywhere.




i have seen some ugly guns in my life time but DAMN that thing is FUGLY.
mylt1  [Member]
1/2/2011 10:13:51 PM
Originally Posted By Onslaught:
Originally Posted By dumbyhotshot:
Similiar to the EMF but not quite the same. The bolt handle was a little different.


Not hearing ANYTHING good about the EMF other than their customer service. Check out the Vault/Pistol Caliber Carbine section. Maybe the poor guy with the malfunctioning EMF can tell you if Mitchell Machine and Tool is stamped on it anywhere.


got a link? i was thinking of buying one of those.
t_kothmann  [Member]
1/18/2011 8:59:56 PM
Originally Posted By Uofaspyder:
Originally Posted By HK_DUDE:
Originally Posted By CWatson:
Originally Posted By Uofaspyder:
A new Glock dedicated lower is set to come to the market before the next SHOT show.




Who will be making it?


CW


+1 ..............do tell!


Sorry for the delay, I wanted to wait until I got the "go ahead" from them that it be public. DDLES is coming out with a Billet Glock 9mm lower.

It is supposed to be out early this Spring, their goal is to have it read for SHOT. It isn't on their website or anything yet, I believe that I am probably the first one to put it out as public info, but I got an email response tonight from Jon that is all right to put it out there. I have been to their shop a few times, watched the CNC machines cut their lowers. I have said before if they made a Glock upper I would take one in a heartbeat, and I will be getting one of the first few.



Does anyone know the status of the DDLES? Did they get a prototype to SHOT?
Badfish25  [Team Member]
1/22/2011 9:10:47 PM
Originally Posted By duncan:
Guys, Olympic Arms has been manufacturing their own dedicated 9mm and 40SW Glock lowers for almost two decades. They know what they are doing. Lots of happy shooters around here. Few haters too. We need to start reasonably including them in these discussions.

Other than Colt and Olympic Arms, the rest of these guys have others manufacture their lowers and uppers with the customers logos and markings under contract. Or they do one-offs but not mass production level.

My Oly Arms 9mm AR15 carbine has been plugging holes for a decade like a Timex. Round count unknown but in multiples of 10,000 as I reload a case of 9mm in less than two hours.

1, Oly just 10 months ago came out with their own polymer 9mm, 40SW, 10mm and 45 ACP mags - no one else has made that investment in the pistol cal AR business; All of them; 40SW and 10mm which no one else is touching; AND

2. Really important, with an Olympic Arms K9GL 9mm AR15 carbine, you can swap on an Oly K40GL 40SW upper for another $600 and have a setup that shoots 9mm and 40SW using the same Oly Glock lower. Just use the right Glock mags.

If you want a Colt/RRA 9mm AR15 fine. Colt spent their money on rejuvenating the Colt Delta Elite and licensing the .22lr carbine to UMAX apparently. RRA is working on some 40SW AR15 carbines for the FBI. Otherwise, they are not investing in the pistol caliber AR15 space.

Olympic Arms is. Support them.


Dose Olympic Arms sell a striped lower? I checked their web site but could not find one.
HardShell  [Life Member]
1/22/2011 9:20:02 PM

Originally Posted By Badfish25:

Dose Olympic Arms sell a striped lower? I checked their web site but could not find one.

I checked a few times and was always told NO, complete rifles only, but it's probably been three years since I last checked FWIW.

(Talking specifically about the GL-series lowers; of course they sell stripped std. AR lowers.)


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