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 FAB-Defense New PTK
FAB-Defense  [Industry Partner]
12/3/2012 1:46:16 AM EDT
Joining our line of Foregrips is the brand-new PTK

The PTK (Ergonomic Pointing Grip) conceptualizes within its design a unique Special Forces combat proven instinctive shooting method
incorporating natural pointing positioning which enhances accuracy, speed and overall tactical performance.

May be used alongside the VTS (Versatile Tactical Support) for optimal support as presented on the AK.


Provides Natural Grip Positioning for Point and Shoot Techniques

Innovative State of the Art Design

Allows Optimal Tactical Support Prevents Fatigue, Increases Long Term Accuracy

Maintains Natural Body Stance

Allows Versatile Positioning for Optimal Comfort

Made of a Single Extremely Durable Polymer Composite Piece

Provides an Additional Compartment for Cleaning Kit or Spare Battery

Fits on all 1913 Picatinny Rails.

For availability and purchase information please contact our relevant distributor in your area at our DEALER LOCATOR
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cochraneap  [Team Member]
12/3/2012 5:25:35 AM EDT
Introducing the new FAB AFG. Never been done before.
HunterKiller86  [Member]
12/3/2012 5:34:24 AM EDT
Could you supply more info for the small handstop at the bottom of your post? Id like to know more.
mikepiet  [Member]
12/3/2012 8:49:04 AM EDT
That AFG looks nice. Is it shipping now?
uxo2  [Team Member]
12/3/2012 9:06:07 AM EDT
FAB-Defense  [Industry Partner]
12/3/2012 10:00:09 PM EDT
Let me clear out the confusion.

The AFG is a differently utilized product made by MAGPUL which you can find at the attached link:

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FAB-Defense  [Industry Partner]
12/3/2012 10:20:42 PM EDT
What you were referring to as the "small handstop" is our new VTS

The VTS (Versatile Tactical Support) provides versatile solutions for various forward grip positioning
enhancing comfort and increasing accuracy.
This ergonomic support may be set to accommodate a wide variety of tactical locations
for ideal operational superiority taking in mind ideal compact configuration.


Allows Optimal Personal Configuration of Your Rifle

Fits on All 1913 Picatinny Rails

Improves Weapon Control and Ergonomics

Permits Safe and Efficient use in Extreme Operational Scenarios

Can be used Complimentary to the PTK as a Thumb Support

Supplied with Configurable Rail Covers for Optimal Comfort

Both VTS and PTK (Ergonomic Pointing Grip) are already shipping

GlassHalfFull  [Member]
12/4/2012 10:22:50 PM EDT
Honestly it looks like it feels a hell of a lot better than an AFG does. I will be ordering one to give it a shot. Looks nice...
FAB-Defense  [Industry Partner]
12/5/2012 9:47:39 PM EDT
Thanks for the feedback; the leading concept behind the design of the PTK was to create a grip which would maintain natural body stance,
while implementing the combat proven "point and shoot" technique.

Therefore the index finger is rested on its own as close as possible to the hand-guards,
while the rest of the hand maintains natural angle to prevent wrist fatigue.

Personally, I like combining it with our VTS on the side of the hand-guards as a completing thumb support.

Purchase information in the US is available at TheMAKOgroup.

For global distributor information go to our Dealer Locator.


OlSarge2K  [Member]
12/8/2012 5:18:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By cochraneap:
Introducing the new FAB AFG. Never been done before.

The AFG concept is not new. And Magpul certainly wasn't the first....

Terrax  [Team Member]
12/8/2012 8:04:25 PM EDT
hahaha ew, well it seems magpul and FAB have surely improved upon that design. nice looking product FAB
FAB-Defense  [Industry Partner]
12/8/2012 8:30:01 PM EDT
Thanks for the feedback OISarge2K, as you might know the MIKI is one of our earlier products as well

mikepiet  [Member]
12/9/2012 10:24:06 AM EDT
EDIT; Found this helpful video on the PTK...

So does my index finger rest on that front most piece with the rest of the hand on the curved portion or is that supposed to be a handstop with the user having the choice between handstop or grabbing the back section of the PTK?

Would love to see pics of the product with a hand on it for demonstration.

FAB-Defense  [Industry Partner]
12/14/2012 3:04:38 AM EDT
Here is a presentation of the PTK on a Remington;
Personally it's one of my favorite configurations, keeping it natural while making the cocking action much more comfortable,
providing the shooter with a highly ergonomic & solid grip even better used alongside the VTS on the side rail as thumb lock / rest.

FAB-Defense  [Industry Partner]
12/14/2012 4:49:25 AM EDT
Come and visit us at Shot Show 2013
With The MAKO Group, Front - Line and Meprolight at booth 20138
MakoDefense  [Industry Partner]
12/17/2012 12:15:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By OlSarge2K:

The AFG concept is not new. And Magpul certainly wasn't the first....

The MIKI is a very comfortable, very effective grip, but there were many requests for a similar grip that fit the same role without a light mount.The PTK was designed to fit that role. It is much different than the AFG, which is designed is designed for a much different shooting stance.
Sketti  [Team Member]
1/7/2013 12:54:57 PM EDT
Would this be to bulky for an AR 15 Pistol? How is the profile (height) of this compared to the Magpul AFG?
FAB-Defense  [Industry Partner]
1/7/2013 11:34:41 PM EDT
The overall height of the PTK is 2.04", 0.1" more than the MAGPUL AFG.
Should have no problem using either one on an AR 15 Pistol.

Best Regards

Bretshooter  [Member]
1/8/2013 7:57:56 AM EDT
It looks like a natural to add a small flash light switch in that index finger rest, momentary light press and full press (click) for on. Wire travels through to the back and on the the flashlight.

Edit to add: Is it me, or does it look like a Star Trek type space ship?
Camaro822  [Member]
1/8/2013 12:41:08 PM EDT
Originally Posted By cochraneap:
Introducing the new FAB AFG. Never been done before.

Competition pushes innovation
FAB-Defense  [Industry Partner]
1/14/2013 5:44:27 AM EDT
4/13/2013 6:18:59 PM EDT
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