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 New CMMG 5.7x28 M4 Carbine and Drop In Conversion
CMMG  [Industry Partner]
1/13/2011 1:12:36 PM
All new 5.7x28 M4 carbine and patent pending .22 drop in conversion. Here is a sneak peak at our latest offering for 2011.






SHRIKERAAR  [Industry Partner]
1/13/2011 1:22:14 PM
COOL I smell a new SBR
ThRob  [Member]
1/13/2011 2:26:41 PM
VERY INTERESTING!!!!!
quijanos  [Team Member]
1/13/2011 2:45:41 PM
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Mrmaigo  [Member]
1/13/2011 2:55:33 PM
Only 30 rounds? If they can put 20 in the FiveSeven, you should be able to get 90 in there.

Also: Shocked, Amazed, Awestruck and so on.
doubleajaybrock  [Team Member]
1/13/2011 4:54:38 PM
hmmm!
slappomatt  [Team Member]
1/13/2011 5:41:28 PM

Originally Posted By Mrmaigo:
Only 30 rounds? If they can put 20 in the FiveSeven, you should be able to get 90 in there.

Also: Shocked, Amazed, Awestruck and so on.

looks like its single stack.

ETA Is this a barrel/bolt/mag conversion that you also make a .22 conversion for? Thats pretty neat. will you sell barrel/bolt/mag only?
CMMG  [Industry Partner]
1/13/2011 6:09:42 PM

Originally Posted By slappomatt:

Originally Posted By Mrmaigo:
Only 30 rounds? If they can put 20 in the FiveSeven, you should be able to get 90 in there.

Also: Shocked, Amazed, Awestruck and so on.

looks like its single stack.

ETA Is this a barrel/bolt/mag conversion that you also make a .22 conversion for? Thats pretty neat. will you sell barrel/bolt/mag only?

The .22 conversion is just a bolt and mag replacement. 30 seconds to convert.
andrasik  [Team Member]
1/13/2011 6:15:01 PM
DO WANT!

Now I just need the new Silencero Sparrow...
charliez  [Team Member]
1/14/2011 3:53:08 AM
Beta magazine for 5.7 coming when?
kapnkrunch  [Team Member]
1/14/2011 3:57:11 AM
My wallet hates me right now.
AR-fan  [Team Member]
1/14/2011 5:33:53 AM
With a 1:9 twist barrel I wonder how well the Aguila 2lr SSS ammo would do in that conversion.
PAPERBOY  [Member]
1/14/2011 3:09:51 PM
Very interested! When can we find out more details???
HUCK70  [Team Member]
1/14/2011 4:50:14 PM
Can I set up somekind of monthly payment plan? You guys are killing me
slappomatt  [Team Member]
1/14/2011 8:28:19 PM

Originally Posted By CMMG:

Originally Posted By slappomatt:

Originally Posted By Mrmaigo:
Only 30 rounds? If they can put 20 in the FiveSeven, you should be able to get 90 in there.

Also: Shocked, Amazed, Awestruck and so on.

looks like its single stack.

ETA Is this a barrel/bolt/mag conversion that you also make a .22 conversion for? Thats pretty neat. will you sell barrel/bolt/mag only?

The .22 conversion is just a bolt and mag replacement. 30 seconds to convert.

sorry I guess it was late when I posted. I was trying to ask if you will be selling the 5.7 conversion parts or only in complete uppers. I was thinking this would be a cool round to chamber my new AR pistol build in.
CMMG  [Industry Partner]
1/14/2011 8:35:59 PM
Originally Posted By slappomatt:

Originally Posted By CMMG:

Originally Posted By slappomatt:

Originally Posted By Mrmaigo:
Only 30 rounds? If they can put 20 in the FiveSeven, you should be able to get 90 in there.

Also: Shocked, Amazed, Awestruck and so on.

looks like its single stack.

ETA Is this a barrel/bolt/mag conversion that you also make a .22 conversion for? Thats pretty neat. will you sell barrel/bolt/mag only?

The .22 conversion is just a bolt and mag replacement. 30 seconds to convert.

sorry I guess it was late when I posted. I was trying to ask if you will be selling the 5.7 conversion parts or only in complete uppers. I was thinking this would be a cool round to chamber my new AR pistol build in.


Sure. We will have the bolt, barrel and mag all available for individual purchase.



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greybear  [Team Member]
1/14/2011 8:55:12 PM

Originally Posted By CMMG:
Originally Posted By slappomatt:

Originally Posted By CMMG:

Originally Posted By slappomatt:

Originally Posted By Mrmaigo:
Only 30 rounds? If they can put 20 in the FiveSeven, you should be able to get 90 in there.

Also: Shocked, Amazed, Awestruck and so on.

looks like its single stack.

ETA Is this a barrel/bolt/mag conversion that you also make a .22 conversion for? Thats pretty neat. will you sell barrel/bolt/mag only?

The .22 conversion is just a bolt and mag replacement. 30 seconds to convert.

sorry I guess it was late when I posted. I was trying to ask if you will be selling the 5.7 conversion parts or only in complete uppers. I was thinking this would be a cool round to chamber my new AR pistol build in.


Sure. We will have the bolt, barrel and mag all available for individual purchase.



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Looks like it is too new for your site. I was hoping to get some pricing on the individual parts too.
westford86  [Member]
1/14/2011 9:49:48 PM
Looks awesome! I love my 5.7, but I'm not sure why I'd want it for my AR when it cost as much as .223?
kennp  [Member]
1/16/2011 5:30:13 PM
CMMG, PLEASE DO A .22WMR VERSION THAT WE CAN HAVE IN THE UK
PLEASE TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT YOUR .22WMR PROTOTYPE THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE
5.7X28 IS A GREAT ROUND BUT NOT UK LEGAL AS IT'S A CENTERFIRE
m4envy  [Member]
1/17/2011 2:37:46 AM
what kind of velocity are you getting out of these?
223Rem  [Member]
1/17/2011 8:45:05 AM
Originally Posted By AR-fan:
With a 1:9 twist barrel I wonder how well the Aguila 2lr SSS ammo would do in that conversion.


Wondering why CMMG went with the 1/9 twist instead of a slower twist better suited for both rounds.

Wouldn't the 40 gr. load of the 5.7x28 stabilize in a 1/16 twist?

Does not appear you can convert the 5.7x28 upper to a .223 by changing bolts.
CMMGinc  [Industry Partner]
1/17/2011 11:46:48 AM

Originally Posted By 223Rem:
Originally Posted By AR-fan:
With a 1:9 twist barrel I wonder how well the Aguila 2lr SSS ammo would do in that conversion.


Wondering why CMMG went with the 1/9 twist instead of a slower twist better suited for both rounds.

Wouldn't the 40 gr. load of the 5.7x28 stabilize in a 1/16 twist?

Does not appear you can convert the 5.7x28 upper to a .223 by changing bolts.


John worded the title kind of weird, its a 5.7 upper/rifle and a .22LR conversion for the 5.7 upper.

FN has always used the 1:9 on there 5.7 products, so fix what is not broke.

The 5.7 is a entirely different barrel and bolt assembly than what is used on the .223

peligro113  [Team Member]
1/17/2011 12:12:34 PM
Do you have a ballpark cost for the 5.7 kit? I was just thinking about what I want to build next, now I know
CMMGinc  [Industry Partner]
1/17/2011 1:00:59 PM

Originally Posted By peligro113:
Do you have a ballpark cost for the 5.7 kit? I was just thinking about what I want to build next, now I know

My best guess based on our current 9mm parts(the 5.7 bolt is basically a reworked 9mm bolt) would be :

~$200 For the 5.7 Bolt
~$210 for the 5.7 Barrel

I have no idea on the Magazine

VarmitSniper  [Team Member]
1/17/2011 1:08:55 PM
Originally Posted By CMMGinc:

Originally Posted By peligro113:
Do you have a ballpark cost for the 5.7 kit? I was just thinking about what I want to build next, now I know

My best guess based on our current 9mm parts(the 5.7 bolt is basically a reworked 9mm bolt) would be :

~$200 For the 5.7 Bolt
~$210 for the 5.7 Barrel

I have no idea on the Magazine



Got a 5.7 upper and mag that I can flog the hell out of?

MrEvoMan  [Member]
1/17/2011 3:34:38 PM
Not being up too much on this caliber, can someone explain me the pros/cons of this, vs the 5.56?

Are you able to put this conversion in a normal AR? (For example one that varies currently between a .22 CMMG kit and 5.56)?

RhinelandArms  [Team Member]
2/4/2011 10:25:24 PM
I like the 5.7mm magazine, any ideas on release date or cost?
amendment  [Team Member]
2/5/2011 9:25:59 AM
Looks very interesting!
ronin70  [Member]
2/17/2011 10:54:41 AM
Does this require the use of a buffer and tube, or is it blowback like the standard 22 cal conversion. one of these with the new Nordic sliding stocks would be cool.
forever4  [Team Member]
2/17/2011 4:51:52 PM
Originally Posted By ronin70:
Does this require the use of a buffer and tube, or is it blowback like the standard 22 cal conversion. one of these with the new Nordic sliding stocks would be cool.


Since the bolt looks like a 9mm bolt it would seem it would require a buffer and spring. The .22 conversion appears to be very similar to a .223 to .22 conversion just with a chamber adapter that mirrors the round the barrel is chambered for.
CMMG  [Industry Partner]
2/17/2011 5:21:52 PM
It will use a standard buffer and spring. These can be used with different types of buffers to control rate of fire.
PAPPYO  [Team Member]
2/19/2011 1:38:14 PM
I sure hope you guy's follow through on this 5.7 upper I've wanted to work with this round for awhile. The other top fed 5.7 upper limits the owners optics choice.

This should be the perfect 150 yard groundhog plinker! I should be able to work up a good load with the little 30gr. Bergers

I'm inline for sure!
theenforcer  [Member]
2/26/2011 12:51:56 PM
Any more news so all you will need is a complete upper and mag and use ony reg ar lower, when will these be released and how much?

And will a reg evoultion 22 conversion work with it?
CMMG  [Industry Partner]
2/26/2011 1:41:38 PM
We are making a mod to the mag dies for greater capacity. You can see the pic of the kit on the original post. The only difference is the adapter itself.
Eukatae  [Team Member]
2/26/2011 5:28:34 PM
Will both bolts trip an auto sear? Have they been tested in FA?

I am sure they will and I WANT! What is the shortest barrel available?
BravoSector1  [Member]
2/28/2011 10:53:45 AM
20" barrel? Would be interested in buying a varminter. Waiting for the new Savage 5.7 bolt rifle to hit the streets...but I'd get into an upper instead.
CMMG  [Industry Partner]
2/28/2011 12:02:36 PM
These will run in full auto just fine.

No plans at the moment for anything over a 16"
PAPPYO  [Team Member]
3/2/2011 7:55:37 PM
Originally Posted By BravoSector1:
20" barrel? Would be interested in buying a varminter. Waiting for the new Savage 5.7 bolt rifle to hit the streets...but I'd get into an upper instead.


16 inches of barrel will burn all the powder this little case can offer. No need for the extra weight of a 20"

A 16" pencil barrel would fit it to a tee! These should sell well to folk's that need short range varmint control.

Simple blowback operation with a standard flattop where you can use a regular rifle scope instead of the other 5.7 uppers where the magazine is on top.

So you get a little better ballistics than a 17 HMR or 22 magnum semiauto not having to deal with a rimmed case and with the possibility to reload the case for all out accuracy.

That's a win for folk's after fur!

P.S. I would'nt get to long on that magazine or I'd offer lower capacity also.

USMCMidn  [Member]
3/3/2011 10:47:39 PM
what the range like? ? ?

150?

200?

250 meters? ? ?
diceman3  [Member]
3/14/2011 9:37:57 AM
HI, I have the gov't profile hbar 1/7 twist. Any considerations with this?


chris65  [Team Member]
3/15/2011 1:48:18 AM
I love the 5.7 magazine.

Tell me you're considering a 22-round 6.8 SPC magazine of similar design... loadable to 2.280-300".

PAPPYO  [Team Member]
4/18/2011 6:22:55 PM
Just a Bump!

gotta hold CMMG's feet to the fire on this one. Theres a bit more interest on Hunting Forums on a standard AR upper in 5.7 than here.

Mostly Fox Hunters. 223 is NOT FUR FRIENDLY on this little guy! 22 Hornet and 22 Mag. are choice. Even 223 FMJ busts them up bad depending on the shot!
HELIX_ARMS  [Member]
4/19/2011 7:36:30 PM
I've been eying a conversion for a while, how well do they sell?
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