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New Generation Primary Arms Micro Dot
10/7/2010 10:32:18 AM
ALL BACK IN STOCK!!!
All have extended battry life, smaller more precise dot and relocated LED for better cowitness.
Link to Primary Arms Red Dot Store
Fixed base $79.99 (The perfect AK optic)
Removable low base $89.99 (AR riser add $29)
Removable low base and extended front for included Killflash $109.99 (AR riser add $29)
A big thanks to Oleg Volk for the great pics!!
LED on the side for better cowitness
Removable base on the left in riser Fixed base on the right
Fixed base on Ultimak rail
Killflash version in riser
All have extended battry life, smaller more precise dot and relocated LED for better cowitness.
Link to Primary Arms Red Dot Store
Fixed base $79.99 (The perfect AK optic)
Removable low base $89.99 (AR riser add $29)
Removable low base and extended front for included Killflash $109.99 (AR riser add $29)
A big thanks to Oleg Volk for the great pics!!
LED on the side for better cowitness
Removable base on the left in riser Fixed base on the right
Fixed base on Ultimak rail
Killflash version in riser
10/7/2010 11:27:04 AM
I have your gen2 or 3 red dot on an Ultimak AK gas tube rail, but it doesn't cowitness with my Arsenal SGL-31. The rear sight doesn't make it up to the height of the tube. Do these new versions fix that?
10/7/2010 11:43:12 AM
Thanks! Just ordered mine.
10/7/2010 12:43:47 PM
Originally Posted By MARSH1:
Gen 8 in riser
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/marsh2001/Web%20photos/OlegGen3-1.jpg
Gen 8 in riser
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/marsh2001/Web%20photos/OlegGen3-1.jpg
very similar to my rifle............
the rise of the dissy is upon us!
10/7/2010 3:02:54 PM
I wonder if PA is planning some new M3/M4 Red Dot releases as well? 
10/7/2010 3:48:26 PM
so are these filled with an inert gas to prevent fogging or do the mount screws go through the body of these as well?
10/7/2010 4:58:53 PM
Originally Posted By crackedcornish:
so are these filled with an inert gas to prevent fogging or do the mount screws go through the body of these as well?
so are these filled with an inert gas to prevent fogging or do the mount screws go through the body of these as well?
They are not Nitrogen purged. The holes are plugged fron the inside to prevent moisture from entering when changing the mounts. Fogging has never been a issue. We did have a shipment that did not have the plugs one time and those were sold with full disclosure as blems. They did not have any fogging issues either as long as thread sealer was used on the screws as we instructed. You don't have a lot of air volume and they are assembled in a low moisture environment.
Here are two posts with feedback about our Micros
LINK
LINK 2
The biggest complaint about the previous versions was the LED position interfering with cowitness. That is no longer a issue.
Aimpoints are Nitrogen purged and the seals in the elevation and Windage adjustments are a engineering work of art. That one of the things that makes a Aimpoint superior for extreme use or just better if the budget allows. That is why we stock T-1s and H-1s.
Thanks
Marshall
10/7/2010 6:38:00 PM
Originally Posted By MARSH1:
They are not Nitrogen purged. The holes are plugged fron the inside to prevent moisture from entering when changing the mounts. Fogging has never been a issue. We did have a shipment that did not have the plugs one time and those were sold with full disclosure as blems. They did not have any fogging issues either as long as thread sealer was used on the screws as we instructed. You don't have a lot of air volume and they are assembled in a low moisture environment.
Here are two posts with feedback about our Micros
LINK
LINK 2
The biggest complaint about the previous versions was the LED position interfering with cowitness. That is no longer a issue.
Aimpoints are Nitrogen purged and the seals in the elevation and Windage adjustments are a engineering work of art. That one of the things that makes a Aimpoint superior for extreme use or just better if the budget allows. That is why we stock T-1s and H-1s.
Thanks
Marshall
Originally Posted By crackedcornish:
so are these filled with an inert gas to prevent fogging or do the mount screws go through the body of these as well?
so are these filled with an inert gas to prevent fogging or do the mount screws go through the body of these as well?
They are not Nitrogen purged. The holes are plugged fron the inside to prevent moisture from entering when changing the mounts. Fogging has never been a issue. We did have a shipment that did not have the plugs one time and those were sold with full disclosure as blems. They did not have any fogging issues either as long as thread sealer was used on the screws as we instructed. You don't have a lot of air volume and they are assembled in a low moisture environment.
Here are two posts with feedback about our Micros
LINK
LINK 2
The biggest complaint about the previous versions was the LED position interfering with cowitness. That is no longer a issue.
Aimpoints are Nitrogen purged and the seals in the elevation and Windage adjustments are a engineering work of art. That one of the things that makes a Aimpoint superior for extreme use or just better if the budget allows. That is why we stock T-1s and H-1s.
Thanks
Marshall
thanks for the info...I have heard nothing but good about these, and want to try one of the new generation on an aimpoint goose neck carry handle mount, will a generation 6 absolute co-witness with the standard removable base?
10/7/2010 11:14:15 PM
I would like to see a pic of the dot. I really like this optic. my brother has a gen 2 micro red dot and it looks great but the dot is a little blurry. I prefer the nice sharp 2moa dot of the vortex micro dot but your body and build looks better. Mind you theirs cost more than 2X more... but still I can hope 
10/8/2010 12:36:32 AM
Originally Posted By slappomatt:
I would like to see a pic of the dot. I really like this optic. my brother has a gen 2 micro red dot and it looks great but the dot is a little blurry. I prefer the nice sharp 2moa dot of the vortex micro dot but your body and build looks better. Mind you theirs cost more than 2X more... but still I can hope
I would like to see a pic of the dot. I really like this optic. my brother has a gen 2 micro red dot and it looks great but the dot is a little blurry. I prefer the nice sharp 2moa dot of the vortex micro dot but your body and build looks better. Mind you theirs cost more than 2X more... but still I can hope
I can't get get a picture that accurately shows it. Oleg Volk took these for me so I will ask if he can capture it. He is one of the best in the business. In the mean time the dot is much tighter and on par with the best of breed. if you want to try one I will eat the return shipping if it does not meat your expectations.
10/8/2010 12:37:33 AM
Originally Posted By crackedcornish:
thanks for the info...I have heard nothing but good about these, and want to try one of the new generation on an aimpoint goose neck carry handle mount, will a generation 6 absolute co-witness with the standard removable base?
Originally Posted By MARSH1:
They are not Nitrogen purged. The holes are plugged fron the inside to prevent moisture from entering when changing the mounts. Fogging has never been a issue. We did have a shipment that did not have the plugs one time and those were sold with full disclosure as blems. They did not have any fogging issues either as long as thread sealer was used on the screws as we instructed. You don't have a lot of air volume and they are assembled in a low moisture environment.
Here are two posts with feedback about our Micros
LINK
LINK 2
The biggest complaint about the previous versions was the LED position interfering with cowitness. That is no longer a issue.
Aimpoints are Nitrogen purged and the seals in the elevation and Windage adjustments are a engineering work of art. That one of the things that makes a Aimpoint superior for extreme use or just better if the budget allows. That is why we stock T-1s and H-1s.
Thanks
Marshall
Originally Posted By crackedcornish:
so are these filled with an inert gas to prevent fogging or do the mount screws go through the body of these as well?
so are these filled with an inert gas to prevent fogging or do the mount screws go through the body of these as well?
They are not Nitrogen purged. The holes are plugged fron the inside to prevent moisture from entering when changing the mounts. Fogging has never been a issue. We did have a shipment that did not have the plugs one time and those were sold with full disclosure as blems. They did not have any fogging issues either as long as thread sealer was used on the screws as we instructed. You don't have a lot of air volume and they are assembled in a low moisture environment.
Here are two posts with feedback about our Micros
LINK
LINK 2
The biggest complaint about the previous versions was the LED position interfering with cowitness. That is no longer a issue.
Aimpoints are Nitrogen purged and the seals in the elevation and Windage adjustments are a engineering work of art. That one of the things that makes a Aimpoint superior for extreme use or just better if the budget allows. That is why we stock T-1s and H-1s.
Thanks
Marshall
thanks for the info...I have heard nothing but good about these, and want to try one of the new generation on an aimpoint goose neck carry handle mount, will a generation 6 absolute co-witness with the standard removable base?
It does with the standard see through goose neck we have in the shop.
10/8/2010 1:15:33 AM
Originally Posted By Beltfedleadhead:
I have your gen2 or 3 red dot on an Ultimak AK gas tube rail, but it doesn't cowitness with my Arsenal SGL-31. The rear sight doesn't make it up to the height of the tube. Do these new versions fix that?
I have your gen2 or 3 red dot on an Ultimak AK gas tube rail, but it doesn't cowitness with my Arsenal SGL-31. The rear sight doesn't make it up to the height of the tube. Do these new versions fix that?
The Gen 7 will. It sits lower than the removable base Micros and the relocated LED opens up more area to see the irons.
10/8/2010 2:19:21 AM
Will the Gen 6 cowitness on an Ultimak? I like the side adjustment on it a lot better, and it also advertises 1k hr battery life...
10/8/2010 9:26:09 AM
Originally Posted By SickMAK90:
Will the Gen 6 cowitness on an Ultimak? I like the side adjustment on it a lot better, and it also advertises 1k hr battery life...
Will the Gen 6 cowitness on an Ultimak? I like the side adjustment on it a lot better, and it also advertises 1k hr battery life...
It does on our demo AK. There is some variation in AKs but with the relocated LED you should not have any issues.
Marshall
10/8/2010 7:30:56 PM
Originally Posted By MARSH1:
I can't get get a picture that accurately shows it. Oleg Volk took these for me so I will ask if he can capture it. He is one of the best in the business. In the mean time the dot is much tighter and on par with the best of breed. if you want to try one I will eat the return shipping if it does not meat your expectations.
Some of that right there is why I have done biz in the past with PA, why I'm doing it now (just picked up the 8 with riser and 3x mag mounted on a flip to side) and why I'll continue doing biz with Marshall in the future. Thanks Marsh
Originally Posted By slappomatt:
I would like to see a pic of the dot. I really like this optic. my brother has a gen 2 micro red dot and it looks great but the dot is a little blurry. I prefer the nice sharp 2moa dot of the vortex micro dot but your body and build looks better. Mind you theirs cost more than 2X more... but still I can hope
I would like to see a pic of the dot. I really like this optic. my brother has a gen 2 micro red dot and it looks great but the dot is a little blurry. I prefer the nice sharp 2moa dot of the vortex micro dot but your body and build looks better. Mind you theirs cost more than 2X more... but still I can hope
I can't get get a picture that accurately shows it. Oleg Volk took these for me so I will ask if he can capture it. He is one of the best in the business. In the mean time the dot is much tighter and on par with the best of breed. if you want to try one I will eat the return shipping if it does not meat your expectations.
p.s. Got anymore hats? LoL! 
10/8/2010 9:12:03 PM
Originally Posted By chapperjoe:
very similar to my rifle............
the rise of the dissy is upon us!
Originally Posted By MARSH1:
Gen 8 in riser
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/marsh2001/Web%20photos/OlegGen3-1.jpg
Gen 8 in riser
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/marsh2001/Web%20photos/OlegGen3-1.jpg
very similar to my rifle............
the rise of the dissy is upon us!
The Dissy has risen. Those are CY6 guns from Defensive Edge. They sell a lot of them.
10/9/2010 9:55:21 AM
Do the new models have lower 1/3 co-witness with the standard Larue T-1 mount?
10/9/2010 11:16:38 AM
Originally Posted By Top_Secret:
Do the new models have lower 1/3 co-witness with the standard Larue T-1 mount?
Do the new models have lower 1/3 co-witness with the standard Larue T-1 mount?
No. They still sit 1/8' higher than a T-1. The new LaRue LT-751 would be the one to go with.
10/9/2010 11:36:48 AM
Originally Posted By MARSH1:
No. They still sit 1/8' higher than a T-1. The new LaRue LT-751 would be the one to go with.
Originally Posted By Top_Secret:
Do the new models have lower 1/3 co-witness with the standard Larue T-1 mount?
Do the new models have lower 1/3 co-witness with the standard Larue T-1 mount?
No. They still sit 1/8' higher than a T-1. The new LaRue LT-751 would be the one to go with.
Ordered Gen8/3x combo. Looking forward to it.
Will definitely be picking up a Gen7 whenever Midwest Industries releases their new AK top rail.
10/10/2010 4:04:54 AM
To anyone with doubts about these optics, don't hesitate to try one out because they will satisfy. If for some wild reason they don't PA has the BEST service in the business. I have about 500 rounds on my Gen2 and it's held zero as well as held up to me abusing it in the desert. It even surprised my shooting buddy that opted to go with a $500 eotech. It was almost like a slap in the face for him. I would love one of the newer models but I don't think my wife would understand ordering a new optic so soon 
I would love one of the newer models but I don't think my wife would understand ordering a new optic so soon
10/10/2010 12:06:32 PM
@ Marshall
Are you taking international orders, or US shipping only?
Are you taking international orders, or US shipping only?
10/12/2010 9:58:40 PM
I've been reading in the forums about your products for some time and it is always good to see someone market a good product at a reasonable price coupled with good service. Congrats!
I've got a couple of questions:
1. I have a Draco Pistol (AK-47 pistol) with an Ultimak. You mentioned that the Gen 7 model would be appropriate for an AK, but I prefer the side controls of the Gen 6 or the Gen 8. I'm not sure if this type of sight is appropriate for the Draco, but if it is, which model would fit. And is there a QD base I could purchase at a later time (La Rue, Arms, Etc.)? I usually buy Trijicon and EOTech, but I'm trying to keep the cost down on the fun guns Vs. the SHTF rifles I keep.
2. I also have a Mini-14 Tactical trunk/fun gun. I purchased a GG&G mount for a mini red-dot (Fastfire or whatever), but haven't purchased the red-dot sight itself. Do you have a solution for the Mini-14 that might be a good alternative (does not use the GG&G mount)? I know Ultimak makes a rail, but I'd like to use the Ruger scope mount location as a starting point if possible.
3. I'm building another AR-15 that needs to be rugged, I have an old EOTech 3X magnifier and LaRue LT-670EO for it. Is there a Gen 6 or 8 solution to align the sight with the magnifier? Or is there another you might recommend? And how much beating will your sights take, I'm thinking of testing it out on this rifle LOL?
Any recommendations or ideas you have will be appreciated.
Cheers
Scott
I've got a couple of questions:
1. I have a Draco Pistol (AK-47 pistol) with an Ultimak. You mentioned that the Gen 7 model would be appropriate for an AK, but I prefer the side controls of the Gen 6 or the Gen 8. I'm not sure if this type of sight is appropriate for the Draco, but if it is, which model would fit. And is there a QD base I could purchase at a later time (La Rue, Arms, Etc.)? I usually buy Trijicon and EOTech, but I'm trying to keep the cost down on the fun guns Vs. the SHTF rifles I keep.
2. I also have a Mini-14 Tactical trunk/fun gun. I purchased a GG&G mount for a mini red-dot (Fastfire or whatever), but haven't purchased the red-dot sight itself. Do you have a solution for the Mini-14 that might be a good alternative (does not use the GG&G mount)? I know Ultimak makes a rail, but I'd like to use the Ruger scope mount location as a starting point if possible.
3. I'm building another AR-15 that needs to be rugged, I have an old EOTech 3X magnifier and LaRue LT-670EO for it. Is there a Gen 6 or 8 solution to align the sight with the magnifier? Or is there another you might recommend? And how much beating will your sights take, I'm thinking of testing it out on this rifle LOL?
Any recommendations or ideas you have will be appreciated.
Cheers
Scott
10/12/2010 10:12:25 PM
Originally Posted By Knekt:
@ Marshall
Are you taking international orders, or US shipping only?
@ Marshall
Are you taking international orders, or US shipping only?
US only at this time.
Marshall
10/13/2010 10:08:22 AM
Originally Posted By ScottsBad:
I've been reading in the forums about your products for some time and it is always good to see someone market a good product at a reasonable price coupled with good service. Congrats!
I've got a couple of questions:
1. I have a Draco Pistol (AK-47 pistol) with an Ultimak. You mentioned that the Gen 7 model would be appropriate for an AK, but I prefer the side controls of the Gen 6 or the Gen 8. I'm not sure if this type of sight is appropriate for the Draco, but if it is, which model would fit. And is there a QD base I could purchase at a later time (La Rue, Arms, Etc.)? I usually buy Trijicon and EOTech, but I'm trying to keep the cost down on the fun guns Vs. the SHTF rifles I keep.
2. I also have a Mini-14 Tactical trunk/fun gun. I purchased a GG&G mount for a mini red-dot (Fastfire or whatever), but haven't purchased the red-dot sight itself. Do you have a solution for the Mini-14 that might be a good alternative (does not use the GG&G mount)? I know Ultimak makes a rail, but I'd like to use the Ruger scope mount location as a starting point if possible.
3. I'm building another AR-15 that needs to be rugged, I have an old EOTech 3X magnifier and LaRue LT-670EO for it. Is there a Gen 6 or 8 solution to align the sight with the magnifier? Or is there another you might recommend? And how much beating will your sights take, I'm thinking of testing it out on this rifle LOL?
Any recommendations or ideas you have will be appreciated.
Cheers
Scott
I've been reading in the forums about your products for some time and it is always good to see someone market a good product at a reasonable price coupled with good service. Congrats!
I've got a couple of questions:
1. I have a Draco Pistol (AK-47 pistol) with an Ultimak. You mentioned that the Gen 7 model would be appropriate for an AK, but I prefer the side controls of the Gen 6 or the Gen 8. I'm not sure if this type of sight is appropriate for the Draco, but if it is, which model would fit. And is there a QD base I could purchase at a later time (La Rue, Arms, Etc.)? I usually buy Trijicon and EOTech, but I'm trying to keep the cost down on the fun guns Vs. the SHTF rifles I keep.
2. I also have a Mini-14 Tactical trunk/fun gun. I purchased a GG&G mount for a mini red-dot (Fastfire or whatever), but haven't purchased the red-dot sight itself. Do you have a solution for the Mini-14 that might be a good alternative (does not use the GG&G mount)? I know Ultimak makes a rail, but I'd like to use the Ruger scope mount location as a starting point if possible.
3. I'm building another AR-15 that needs to be rugged, I have an old EOTech 3X magnifier and LaRue LT-670EO for it. Is there a Gen 6 or 8 solution to align the sight with the magnifier? Or is there another you might recommend? And how much beating will your sights take, I'm thinking of testing it out on this rifle LOL?
Any recommendations or ideas you have will be appreciated.
Cheers
Scott
1: The Gen 7 sits a little lower giving better cowitness. Gen 6 will work. If you add a QD base it will sit too high to cowitness on a AK.
2: If you have a Weaver or PIC rail any Micro will work. We have other Mini -14 rail options.
3: I don't have a LT-670EO in the shop anymore. Measure the height of the center of the magnifier from the rail and shoot me a email.
Marshall
10/13/2010 4:16:08 PM
Is there a guesstimated battery life available? Original micro dots were given ~a week battery life.
Edit, never mind, website says 1000 hours. That's nearly a 5x improvement in battery life!
10/13/2010 4:19:56 PM
is the difference between the new ones only in regards to mounts and acessories? e.g. performance is the same on all?
I need one in a tall mount, no killflash needed. what do I go with?
I need one in a tall mount, no killflash needed. what do I go with?
10/13/2010 4:31:15 PM
Cool deal!
10/13/2010 5:31:26 PM
Originally Posted By chapperjoe:
is the difference between the new ones only in regards to mounts and acessories? e.g. performance is the same on all?
I need one in a tall mount, no killflash needed. what do I go with?
is the difference between the new ones only in regards to mounts and acessories? e.g. performance is the same on all?
I need one in a tall mount, no killflash needed. what do I go with?
Longer battery life, smaller dot, LED moved to side for better cowitness
10/13/2010 9:35:30 PM
Originally Posted By MARSH1:
Longer battery life, smaller dot, LED moved to side for better cowitness
Originally Posted By chapperjoe:
is the difference between the new ones only in regards to mounts and acessories? e.g. performance is the same on all?
I need one in a tall mount, no killflash needed. what do I go with?
is the difference between the new ones only in regards to mounts and acessories? e.g. performance is the same on all?
I need one in a tall mount, no killflash needed. what do I go with?
Longer battery life, smaller dot, LED moved to side for better cowitness
only gen 8? or gen 6 7 and 8?
10/13/2010 10:37:03 PM
Originally Posted By chapperjoe:
only gen 8? or gen 6 7 and 8?
Originally Posted By MARSH1:
Longer battery life, smaller dot, LED moved to side for better cowitness
Originally Posted By chapperjoe:
is the difference between the new ones only in regards to mounts and acessories? e.g. performance is the same on all?
I need one in a tall mount, no killflash needed. what do I go with?
is the difference between the new ones only in regards to mounts and acessories? e.g. performance is the same on all?
I need one in a tall mount, no killflash needed. what do I go with?
Longer battery life, smaller dot, LED moved to side for better cowitness
only gen 8? or gen 6 7 and 8?
6, 7 and 8 all have the upgrades
10/13/2010 11:31:57 PM
Hey Marshall....do you have a storefront yet? I work in Houston (Channelview) during the week and I'd like to bring my GSG-5 by to match one of these up. It has that claw rail that is so common on those rifles. What say you?
10/13/2010 11:41:49 PM
Originally Posted By icemann0:
Hey Marshall....do you have a storefront yet? I work in Houston (Channelview) during the week and I'd like to bring my GSG-5 by to match one of these up. It has that claw rail that is so common on those rifles. What say you?
Hey Marshall....do you have a storefront yet? I work in Houston (Channelview) during the week and I'd like to bring my GSG-5 by to match one of these up. It has that claw rail that is so common on those rifles. What say you?
We have for amost a year.
2837 Miller Ranch road Suite 117, Pearland, TX 77584 M-F 9-5
Thanks
Marshall
10/15/2010 1:18:42 AM
Guys Marshall was good enough to let me t&e one of these sights before they were released. They are awsome.
Here is what I found.
8-29-10
I mounted the sight you sent me on my Larue Stealth in an off set mount. I took the micro that was on it and put it on my Benelli. The new sight you sent has a smaller sharper dot and it made more sense to me to put it on a rifle.
What I like.
The dot is very sharp and intense. (seems brighter than previous generation sights)
The adjustments were not nearly as course and sighting in was easy as cake.
Marhsall has a real winner with this new sight. As far as function (shooting) it seems every bit the equal of my T1.
Here are some groups I fired with it on my Larue at 50 yards during sight in.
Date 9-6-10
Took the micro out again today and compared it with a Aimpoint R1 and an older 2nd gen micro. The dot is as bright as the aimpoints much better than the earlier generation of your sight. It was a very sunny day today and the new sight was much brighter than the older model and equal to the aimpoint. You are making me want to replace my older blem models with this new generation. What is the price going to be on this new Gen.
I accidently left the sight on one day and checked my rifle 8 days later and the sight was still on and working.
The biggest single improvement as I see it over older generations is the dot brightness. It can be seen even on the brightest days. On the older models they were harder to see on bright days.
Here is what I found.
8-29-10
I mounted the sight you sent me on my Larue Stealth in an off set mount. I took the micro that was on it and put it on my Benelli. The new sight you sent has a smaller sharper dot and it made more sense to me to put it on a rifle.
What I like.
The dot is very sharp and intense. (seems brighter than previous generation sights)
The adjustments were not nearly as course and sighting in was easy as cake.
Marhsall has a real winner with this new sight. As far as function (shooting) it seems every bit the equal of my T1.
Here are some groups I fired with it on my Larue at 50 yards during sight in.
Date 9-6-10
Took the micro out again today and compared it with a Aimpoint R1 and an older 2nd gen micro. The dot is as bright as the aimpoints much better than the earlier generation of your sight. It was a very sunny day today and the new sight was much brighter than the older model and equal to the aimpoint. You are making me want to replace my older blem models with this new generation. What is the price going to be on this new Gen.
I accidently left the sight on one day and checked my rifle 8 days later and the sight was still on and working.
The biggest single improvement as I see it over older generations is the dot brightness. It can be seen even on the brightest days. On the older models they were harder to see on bright days.
10/15/2010 1:23:30 AM
The new sight also has much better adjustments. The clicks seem consistent and repeatable. I will try to post some pictures of some in the scope shots with the new generation micro vs my T1.
I really like this new sight and I plan on purchasing 2 more. 1 for my new Noveske three gun rifle (in a larue off set mount as well.) and another for my AK or for my Spikes 22 LR steel rifle. I can't say enough good about this new generation from Marshall. A lot of good things have come together on this sight. If anyone has any questions about performance of this new sight shoot me a PM.
Pat
I really like this new sight and I plan on purchasing 2 more. 1 for my new Noveske three gun rifle (in a larue off set mount as well.) and another for my AK or for my Spikes 22 LR steel rifle. I can't say enough good about this new generation from Marshall. A lot of good things have come together on this sight. If anyone has any questions about performance of this new sight shoot me a PM.
Pat
10/15/2010 5:13:09 PM
10/16/2010 9:20:16 PM
Originally Posted By MARSH1:
1: The Gen 7 sits a little lower giving better cowitness. Gen 6 will work. If you add a QD base it will sit too high to cowitness on a AK.
2: If you have a Weaver or PIC rail any Micro will work. We have other Mini -14 rail options.
3: I don't have a LT670EO in the shop anymore. Measure the height of the center of the magnifier from the rail and shoot me a email.
Marshall
Originally Posted By ScottsBad:
I've been reading in the forums about your products for some time and it is always good to see someone market a good product at a reasonable price coupled with good service. Congrats!
I've got a couple of questions:
1. I have a Draco Pistol (AK-47 pistol) with an Ultimak. You mentioned that the Gen 7 model would be appropriate for an AK, but I prefer the side controls of the Gen 6 or the Gen 8. I'm not sure if this type of sight is appropriate for the Draco, but if it is, which model would fit. And is there a QD base I could purchase at a later time (La Rue, Arms, Etc.)? I usually buy Trijicon and EOTech, but I'm trying to keep the cost down on the fun guns Vs. the SHTF rifles I keep.
2. I also have a Mini-14 Tactical trunk/fun gun. I purchased a GG&G mount for a mini red-dot (Fastfire or whatever), but haven't purchased the red-dot sight itself. Do you have a solution for the Mini-14 that might be a good alternative (does not use the GG&G mount)? I know Ultimak makes a rail, but I'd like to use the Ruger scope mount location as a starting point if possible.
3. I'm building another AR-15 that needs to be rugged, I have an old EOTech 3X magnifier and LaRue LT-670EO for it. Is there a Gen 6 or 8 solution to align the sight with the magnifier? Or is there another you might recommend? And how much beating will your sights take, I'm thinking of testing it out on this rifle LOL?
Any recommendations or ideas you have will be appreciated.
Cheers
Scott
I've been reading in the forums about your products for some time and it is always good to see someone market a good product at a reasonable price coupled with good service. Congrats!
I've got a couple of questions:
1. I have a Draco Pistol (AK-47 pistol) with an Ultimak. You mentioned that the Gen 7 model would be appropriate for an AK, but I prefer the side controls of the Gen 6 or the Gen 8. I'm not sure if this type of sight is appropriate for the Draco, but if it is, which model would fit. And is there a QD base I could purchase at a later time (La Rue, Arms, Etc.)? I usually buy Trijicon and EOTech, but I'm trying to keep the cost down on the fun guns Vs. the SHTF rifles I keep.
2. I also have a Mini-14 Tactical trunk/fun gun. I purchased a GG&G mount for a mini red-dot (Fastfire or whatever), but haven't purchased the red-dot sight itself. Do you have a solution for the Mini-14 that might be a good alternative (does not use the GG&G mount)? I know Ultimak makes a rail, but I'd like to use the Ruger scope mount location as a starting point if possible.
3. I'm building another AR-15 that needs to be rugged, I have an old EOTech 3X magnifier and LaRue LT-670EO for it. Is there a Gen 6 or 8 solution to align the sight with the magnifier? Or is there another you might recommend? And how much beating will your sights take, I'm thinking of testing it out on this rifle LOL?
Any recommendations or ideas you have will be appreciated.
Cheers
Scott
1: The Gen 7 sits a little lower giving better cowitness. Gen 6 will work. If you add a QD base it will sit too high to cowitness on a AK.
2: If you have a Weaver or PIC rail any Micro will work. We have other Mini -14 rail options.
3: I don't have a LT670EO in the shop anymore. Measure the height of the center of the magnifier from the rail and shoot me a email.
Marshall
Thanks Marshall,
1. So does the Gen 6 come with a low picanny mount adapter? I don't need a QD for the DRACO.
2. I'll take a look at your web site again to see what you have that might work on the Mini-14 scope mount points.
3. You probably have the centerline measurement for the LT670-EO, it is the same as the centerline of the XPS or the 512. -OR- if you have a magnifier that works with the XPS or 512 it would be the same centerline.
Scott
10/16/2010 9:44:24 PM
Hey Marshall how does the brightness level compair to the Vortex Strikefire red dot only version?
10/16/2010 11:20:56 PM
Originally Posted By Pointman1605:
Hey Marshall how does the brightness level compair to the Vortex Strikefire red dot only version?
Hey Marshall how does the brightness level compair to the Vortex Strikefire red dot only version?
I have never comped them side by side but neither will wash out in normal use.
10/16/2010 11:26:26 PM
Originally Posted By ScottsBad:
Thanks Marshall,
1. So does the Gen 6 come with a low picanny mount adapter? I don't need a QD for the DRACO.
2. I'll take a look at your web site again to see what you have that might work on the Mini-14 scope mount points.
3. You probably have the centerline measurement for the LT670-EO, it is the same as the centerline of the XPS or the 512. -OR- if you have a magnifier that works with the XPS or 512 it would be the same centerline.
Scott
Originally Posted By MARSH1:
1: The Gen 7 sits a little lower giving better cowitness. Gen 6 will work. If you add a QD base it will sit too high to cowitness on a AK.
2: If you have a Weaver or PIC rail any Micro will work. We have other Mini -14 rail options.
3: I don't have a LT670EO in the shop anymore. Measure the height of the center of the magnifier from the rail and shoot me a email.
Marshall
Originally Posted By ScottsBad:
I've been reading in the forums about your products for some time and it is always good to see someone market a good product at a reasonable price coupled with good service. Congrats!
I've got a couple of questions:
1. I have a Draco Pistol (AK-47 pistol) with an Ultimak. You mentioned that the Gen 7 model would be appropriate for an AK, but I prefer the side controls of the Gen 6 or the Gen 8. I'm not sure if this type of sight is appropriate for the Draco, but if it is, which model would fit. And is there a QD base I could purchase at a later time (La Rue, Arms, Etc.)? I usually buy Trijicon and EOTech, but I'm trying to keep the cost down on the fun guns Vs. the SHTF rifles I keep.
2. I also have a Mini-14 Tactical trunk/fun gun. I purchased a GG&G mount for a mini red-dot (Fastfire or whatever), but haven't purchased the red-dot sight itself. Do you have a solution for the Mini-14 that might be a good alternative (does not use the GG&G mount)? I know Ultimak makes a rail, but I'd like to use the Ruger scope mount location as a starting point if possible.
3. I'm building another AR-15 that needs to be rugged, I have an old EOTech 3X magnifier and LaRue LT-670EO for it. Is there a Gen 6 or 8 solution to align the sight with the magnifier? Or is there another you might recommend? And how much beating will your sights take, I'm thinking of testing it out on this rifle LOL?
Any recommendations or ideas you have will be appreciated.
Cheers
Scott
I've been reading in the forums about your products for some time and it is always good to see someone market a good product at a reasonable price coupled with good service. Congrats!
I've got a couple of questions:
1. I have a Draco Pistol (AK-47 pistol) with an Ultimak. You mentioned that the Gen 7 model would be appropriate for an AK, but I prefer the side controls of the Gen 6 or the Gen 8. I'm not sure if this type of sight is appropriate for the Draco, but if it is, which model would fit. And is there a QD base I could purchase at a later time (La Rue, Arms, Etc.)? I usually buy Trijicon and EOTech, but I'm trying to keep the cost down on the fun guns Vs. the SHTF rifles I keep.
2. I also have a Mini-14 Tactical trunk/fun gun. I purchased a GG&G mount for a mini red-dot (Fastfire or whatever), but haven't purchased the red-dot sight itself. Do you have a solution for the Mini-14 that might be a good alternative (does not use the GG&G mount)? I know Ultimak makes a rail, but I'd like to use the Ruger scope mount location as a starting point if possible.
3. I'm building another AR-15 that needs to be rugged, I have an old EOTech 3X magnifier and LaRue LT-670EO for it. Is there a Gen 6 or 8 solution to align the sight with the magnifier? Or is there another you might recommend? And how much beating will your sights take, I'm thinking of testing it out on this rifle LOL?
Any recommendations or ideas you have will be appreciated.
Cheers
Scott
1: The Gen 7 sits a little lower giving better cowitness. Gen 6 will work. If you add a QD base it will sit too high to cowitness on a AK.
2: If you have a Weaver or PIC rail any Micro will work. We have other Mini -14 rail options.
3: I don't have a LT670EO in the shop anymore. Measure the height of the center of the magnifier from the rail and shoot me a email.
Marshall
Thanks Marshall,
1. So does the Gen 6 come with a low picanny mount adapter? I don't need a QD for the DRACO.
2. I'll take a look at your web site again to see what you have that might work on the Mini-14 scope mount points.
3. You probably have the centerline measurement for the LT670-EO, it is the same as the centerline of the XPS or the 512. -OR- if you have a magnifier that works with the XPS or 512 it would be the same centerline.
Scott
The Gen 6 does come with the low base. Our riser should work with the LT-670EO but you don't have much adjustment to center the dot if they are a little off
10/17/2010 8:02:28 PM
Will the new ones with the low base hold up to 2-3/4" shells in an autoloader like the FN SLP?
10/17/2010 8:22:00 PM
Originally Posted By MARSH1:
The Gen 6 does come with the low base. Our riser should work with the LT-670EO but you don't have much adjustment to center the dot if they are a little off
The Gen 6 does come with the low base. Our riser should work with the LT-670EO but you don't have much adjustment to center the dot if they are a little off
Thanks, I'll order a Gen 6 soon to see how it works out, then maybe more.
Thank you
Scott
10/18/2010 3:21:41 AM
Originally Posted By Bourne_Dependancy:
Will the new ones with the low base hold up to 2-3/4" shells in an autoloader like the FN SLP?
Will the new ones with the low base hold up to 2-3/4" shells in an autoloader like the FN SLP?
I have ran a older gen 2 on a Benelli M4 with everything from 3 inch slugs to trap loads with no problems.
Pat
10/19/2010 4:43:41 PM
Mine had a very clear dot. Originally Posted By slappomatt:
I would like to see a pic of the dot. I really like this optic. my brother has a gen 2 micro red dot and it looks great but the dot is a little blurry. I prefer the nice sharp 2moa dot of the vortex micro dot but your body and build looks better. Mind you theirs cost more than 2X more... but still I can hope
I would like to see a pic of the dot. I really like this optic. my brother has a gen 2 micro red dot and it looks great but the dot is a little blurry. I prefer the nice sharp 2moa dot of the vortex micro dot but your body and build looks better. Mind you theirs cost more than 2X more... but still I can hope
10/19/2010 7:23:44 PM
Ordered mine yesterday. Thanks Marshall!
10/22/2010 1:49:47 AM
Marshall, will all mounts work with this?
10/23/2010 12:19:06 PM
You really need a comparison chart or page that shows all the dots you sell and the differences. Which gen does what? Too many choices, need more answers.
10/23/2010 1:31:44 PM
Originally Posted By blackfly53:
Marshall, will all mounts work with this?
Marshall, will all mounts work with this?
They fit but our Micros sit a 1/8" higher than a T-1 so the cowitness is a little different.
10/23/2010 1:32:27 PM
Originally Posted By Lancelot:
You really need a comparison chart or page that shows all the dots you sell and the differences. Which gen does what? Too many choices, need more answers.
You really need a comparison chart or page that shows all the dots you sell and the differences. Which gen does what? Too many choices, need more answers.
That is on the looooong things to do list.
10/23/2010 4:35:47 PM
I just ordered one of the Gen 7's for my Arsenal AK.I will post pics when I am done.
Pat
Pat
10/25/2010 9:30:26 AM
*Raised hand*
How do these handle recoil from, say, a Benelli M1014/M4 Tactical? I'm looking for a low-mount optic for my Benelli.
How do these handle recoil from, say, a Benelli M1014/M4 Tactical? I'm looking for a low-mount optic for my Benelli.10/26/2010 2:44:33 PM
What sight would you recommend for an AR that has a fixed carry handle with a rail mount in it?
