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Spike's Tactical 16" M4 Cold Hammer Forged upper!
6/3/2009 11:30:10 AM
Spike's Tactical 16" M4 Cold Hammer Forged upper.
-M4 Flat top upper with T-markings, our logo and M4 feed ramps.
-Barrel is Cold Hammer Forged, M4 barrel extention, 5.56mm Nato chamber, 1:7 Twist, Magnetic particle testing on every barrel, Melonite finish inside and out for excellent corrision resistance and durability without sacrificing accuracy.
-M4 profile with Carbine-length gas system.
-Barrel is Melonite finished under the F marked, A2 front site base.
-M16 Bolt carrier group with properly staked gas key.
-Bolts are all MP tested by the lot so they are not Marked MP on the bolt itself.
-Viton O-ring on the extractor
-Forged Mil-Spec charging handle.
-M4 hand guards.
-A2 Flash Hider.
-Each upper also comes with and ST-T2 buffer.
Click Here to Order.
-M4 Flat top upper with T-markings, our logo and M4 feed ramps.
-Barrel is Cold Hammer Forged, M4 barrel extention, 5.56mm Nato chamber, 1:7 Twist, Magnetic particle testing on every barrel, Melonite finish inside and out for excellent corrision resistance and durability without sacrificing accuracy.
-M4 profile with Carbine-length gas system.
-Barrel is Melonite finished under the F marked, A2 front site base.
-M16 Bolt carrier group with properly staked gas key.
-Bolts are all MP tested by the lot so they are not Marked MP on the bolt itself.
-Viton O-ring on the extractor
-Forged Mil-Spec charging handle.
-M4 hand guards.
-A2 Flash Hider.
-Each upper also comes with and ST-T2 buffer.
Click Here to Order.
6/3/2009 2:22:38 PM
Nice.
How about following it with a government profile mid-length?
How about following it with a government profile mid-length?
6/3/2009 2:28:15 PM
Who is supplying your barrels?
6/3/2009 2:36:24 PM
Is the barrel chrome lined or melonite lined or just plain?
6/3/2009 2:37:16 PM
very cool 
6/3/2009 5:27:45 PM
Originally Posted By wilezcoyote:
Is the barrel chrome lined or melonite lined or just plain?
Is the barrel chrome lined or melonite lined or just plain?
They are Melonite lined.
6/3/2009 5:28:07 PM
Originally Posted By chromeluv:
Who is supplying your barrels?
Who is supplying your barrels?
Take a wild guess.
6/3/2009 5:30:48 PM
Noveske?
6/3/2009 5:31:01 PM
Originally Posted By JFPatch:
Nice.
How about following it with a government profile mid-length?
Nice.
How about following it with a government profile mid-length?
That will be a few months out.
6/3/2009 5:31:48 PM
Originally Posted By Smitty81:
Noveske?
Noveske?
Nope, FN makes their CHF barrels.
6/3/2009 5:50:30 PM
Ruger? 
6/3/2009 6:54:06 PM
How do melonite barrels compare to chrome lined, stainless steel etc?
Approximate average lifespan of the barrel? I know there are alot of factors that contribute to barrel life but im still wondering anyway. :)
Approximate average lifespan of the barrel? I know there are alot of factors that contribute to barrel life but im still wondering anyway. :)
6/3/2009 8:03:47 PM
Originally Posted By badazzar15:
Take a wild guess.
Originally Posted By chromeluv:
Who is supplying your barrels?
Who is supplying your barrels?
Take a wild guess.
Who? DD? Centurion? KAC?
6/3/2009 10:48:12 PM
Inquiring minds want to know.
6/4/2009 4:08:45 AM
Originally Posted By badazzar15:
Take a wild guess.
Originally Posted By chromeluv:
Who is supplying your barrels?
Who is supplying your barrels?
Take a wild guess.
Cold hammer forget and Melonite finish?
Just a wild guess: LWRCI / Matech.
6/4/2009 4:37:57 AM
Originally Posted By jayhanfosho:
Ruger?
Ruger?
6/4/2009 12:13:59 PM
What is the expected accuracy on these uppers? Is there any sort of accuracy guarantee?
6/4/2009 1:20:42 PM
Originally Posted By chromeluv:
Who? DD? Centurion? KAC?
Originally Posted By badazzar15:
Take a wild guess.
Originally Posted By chromeluv:
Who is supplying your barrels?
Who is supplying your barrels?
Take a wild guess.
Who? DD? Centurion? KAC?
I have an agreement to not mention any names but they are made by a government contactor, and the quality is as good as it gets.
6/4/2009 1:21:03 PM
Originally Posted By Ares337:
Originally Posted By jayhanfosho:
Ruger?
Ruger?
Not a chance lol.
6/4/2009 1:22:27 PM
Originally Posted By Postal0311:
What is the expected accuracy on these uppers? Is there any sort of accuracy guarantee?
What is the expected accuracy on these uppers? Is there any sort of accuracy guarantee?
Accuracy is insane. Easily on par with an N4 barrel, maybe even better.
6/4/2009 1:31:41 PM
Tom, what's the deal with barrel life on a Melonite treated barrel that's not chrome lined? Any guess? Obviously defendant on firing schedule but how does it rate against a regular chrome lined barrel?
6/4/2009 2:59:52 PM
Originally Posted By badazzar15:
I have an agreement to not mention any names but they are made by a government contactor, and the quality is as good as it gets.
Originally Posted By chromeluv:
Who? DD? Centurion? KAC?
Originally Posted By badazzar15:
Take a wild guess.
Originally Posted By chromeluv:
Who is supplying your barrels?
Who is supplying your barrels?
Take a wild guess.
Who? DD? Centurion? KAC?
I have an agreement to not mention any names but they are made by a government contactor, and the quality is as good as it gets.
6/4/2009 3:44:21 PM
Maybe Saber?
So Badazzar15, does "Accuracy is insane." mean I can be sure of sub 2 MOA?
Also, can we order these minus hand guards, BCG, and charging handle?
So Badazzar15, does "Accuracy is insane." mean I can be sure of sub 2 MOA?
Also, can we order these minus hand guards, BCG, and charging handle?
6/4/2009 10:27:39 PM
Originally Posted By Postal0311:
Also, can we order these minus hand guards, BCG, and charging handle?
Also, can we order these minus hand guards, BCG, and charging handle?
+1, how about a 14.5" version as well ?
6/4/2009 10:51:08 PM
If I can order one sans BCG, CH, and handguard then I'll be all over one.
6/5/2009 9:06:46 PM
Originally Posted By Magsz18:
How do melonite barrels compare to chrome lined, stainless steel etc?
How do melonite barrels compare to chrome lined, stainless steel etc?
I have a melonite treated barrel that is 5 or 6 years old (maybe even a little older), it was a prototype and didn't go into production. I have used it for heavy CQC drills, FA work, as a general training upper, and carried it as an upper on my duty weapon. Its currently loaned to another officer who is using it for his duty upper. I've never seen a barrel taken abuse like this barrel has, and still look and group this well.
This doesn't directly answer your question in regards to the Spikes barrel, but I have had solid results from mine.
6/5/2009 10:47:25 PM
Its honestly the most consistent and durable finish I have ever seen or used. By the looks of things the first batch will be sold out before the end of the weekend!
6/7/2009 6:06:11 PM
Stick,
Thanks for the insight.
I have one more question if you dont mind. I have a couple S&W M&P's and ive had some rust issues. If i recall correctly those guns are melonite coated. Have you noticed any rusting with your barrel? Do these barrels require more cleaning than say a chrome lined barrel? Any special care involved?
Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions!
Thanks for the insight.
I have one more question if you dont mind. I have a couple S&W M&P's and ive had some rust issues. If i recall correctly those guns are melonite coated. Have you noticed any rusting with your barrel? Do these barrels require more cleaning than say a chrome lined barrel? Any special care involved?
Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions!
6/7/2009 7:23:08 PM
Originally Posted By Magsz18:
Stick,
Thanks for the insight.
I have one more question if you dont mind. I have a couple S&W M&P's and ive had some rust issues. If i recall correctly those guns are melonite coated. Have you noticed any rusting with your barrel? Do these barrels require more cleaning than say a chrome lined barrel? Any special care involved?
Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions!
Stick,
Thanks for the insight.
I have one more question if you dont mind. I have a couple S&W M&P's and ive had some rust issues. If i recall correctly those guns are melonite coated. Have you noticed any rusting with your barrel? Do these barrels require more cleaning than say a chrome lined barrel? Any special care involved?
Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions!
No rust issues on my older barrel, and no rust issues on any of the Glocks (personal or various departments) that I've seen unless there is extreme abuse.
Melonite and Tennifer are both salt bath nitride finishes, and if they aren't exactly the same, are at least quite similar. You can check out the below link for a little additional info. The biggest thing to remember is that just because they are the same finish, it doesn't mean the process is the same. This is why you may see an issue with one, and not with another.
I hope this helps a little.
http://www.reference.com/browse/melonite
6/8/2009 1:21:13 AM
It does.
Thank you stick, that is some really good info.
:)
Thank you stick, that is some really good info.
:)
6/8/2009 1:24:24 PM
Glad to be of help, I talked to a few people about it yesterday, and they commented it as like painting a car. Two different shops use the same paint, but there are a lot of variables in prep and application that can produce two very different results.
My own opinion is that melonite style applications have come a long way in the past couple years.
My own opinion is that melonite style applications have come a long way in the past couple years.
6/9/2009 8:05:56 PM
I have heard that when stainless steel is treated with the Melonite process it actually reduces its corrosion resistance. Chrome moly,however, when Melonited becomes much more corrosion resistant lasting somewhere around 300 hours in a mil-spec salt spray test. M&Ps are stainless so that may be why they do get some rust.
6/9/2009 8:18:07 PM
Originally Posted By sniperfrog:
I have heard that when stainless steel is treated with the Melonite process it actually reduces its corrosion resistance. Chrome moly,however, when Melonited becomes much more corrosion resistant lasting somewhere around 300 hours in a mil-spec salt spray test. M&Ps are stainless so that may be why they do get some rust.
I have heard that when stainless steel is treated with the Melonite process it actually reduces its corrosion resistance. Chrome moly,however, when Melonited becomes much more corrosion resistant lasting somewhere around 300 hours in a mil-spec salt spray test. M&Ps are stainless so that may be why they do get some rust.
No.
6/10/2009 1:08:03 AM
I forgot to mention that each complete upper comes with an ST-T2 buffer. 
6/10/2009 7:21:41 AM
Will you be offering any mid-length uppers with this barrel?
6/10/2009 12:45:09 PM
Originally Posted By badazzar15:
I forgot to mention that each complete upper comes with an ST-T2 buffer.
I forgot to mention that each complete upper comes with an ST-T2 buffer.
For people who aren't familiar, here is some info off the Spikes website.
http://www.spikestactical.com/z/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=24&products_id=201&zenid=s6j31a4nroh0dn0vmd2ourli55
Each buffer is filled with HDTP "High Density Tungsten Powder" so there is No reciprocating weights inside to make any noise. It also makes for a Very Smooth cycling rifle. It eliminates the chance of bolt bounce and muzzle rise in full-auto. It also cuts down on Felt Recoil. It's a HUGE upgrade from a Standard Carbine buffer! It's designed for .223/5.56 but it works in all Calibers!
After its filled with HDTP it's topped off with a mil spec bumper!
Here are some weights I came up with to compare to. These weights may vary from mfg. to mfg. or from one scale to another.
Standard CMT carbine buffer - 2.9 oz.
CMT H buffer - 3.8 oz.
CMT H2 buffer - 4.1 oz.
ST-T2 - 4.3oz.
Armalite H3 buffer - 4.7 oz.
After its filled with HDTP it's topped off with a mil spec bumper!
Here are some weights I came up with to compare to. These weights may vary from mfg. to mfg. or from one scale to another.
Standard CMT carbine buffer - 2.9 oz.
CMT H buffer - 3.8 oz.
CMT H2 buffer - 4.1 oz.
ST-T2 - 4.3oz.
Armalite H3 buffer - 4.7 oz.
6/10/2009 8:49:22 PM
Originally Posted By sharkbait:
Will you be offering any mid-length uppers with this barrel?
Will you be offering any mid-length uppers with this barrel?
Good Question???
6/11/2009 2:35:32 AM
Originally Posted By Stickman:
No rust issues on my older barrel, and no rust issues on any of the Glocks (personal or various departments) that I've seen unless there is extreme abuse.
Melonite and Tennifer are both salt bath nitride finishes, and if they aren't exactly the same, are at least quite similar. You can check out the below link for a little additional info. The biggest thing to remember is that just because they are the same finish, it doesn't mean the process is the same. This is why you may see an issue with one, and not with another.
I hope this helps a little.
http://www.reference.com/browse/melonite
Originally Posted By Magsz18:
Stick,
Thanks for the insight.
I have one more question if you dont mind. I have a couple S&W M&P's and ive had some rust issues. If i recall correctly those guns are melonite coated. Have you noticed any rusting with your barrel? Do these barrels require more cleaning than say a chrome lined barrel? Any special care involved?
Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions!
Stick,
Thanks for the insight.
I have one more question if you dont mind. I have a couple S&W M&P's and ive had some rust issues. If i recall correctly those guns are melonite coated. Have you noticed any rusting with your barrel? Do these barrels require more cleaning than say a chrome lined barrel? Any special care involved?
Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions!
No rust issues on my older barrel, and no rust issues on any of the Glocks (personal or various departments) that I've seen unless there is extreme abuse.
Melonite and Tennifer are both salt bath nitride finishes, and if they aren't exactly the same, are at least quite similar. You can check out the below link for a little additional info. The biggest thing to remember is that just because they are the same finish, it doesn't mean the process is the same. This is why you may see an issue with one, and not with another.
I hope this helps a little.
http://www.reference.com/browse/melonite
Just to add to pot of information: http://www.burlingtoneng.com/melonite.html
Not a clue what a lot of it means, but interesting stuff!6/11/2009 7:32:28 AM
Originally Posted By sharkbait:
Will you be offering any mid-length uppers with this barrel?
Will you be offering any mid-length uppers with this barrel?
Yes but its going to be a couple months out.
6/15/2009 1:14:18 PM
If this is made from quality parts, it seems like a great deal.
BCM Upper 475
BCM BCG 160
Charging Handle 20
M4 Handguard 20
H3 Buffer 40
That's $715, not including taxes and shipping. $10 more for a hammer forged melonite barrel. Hard to argue with that price.
I went ahead and ordered one. I hope it turns out nice.
BCM Upper 475
BCM BCG 160
Charging Handle 20
M4 Handguard 20
H3 Buffer 40
That's $715, not including taxes and shipping. $10 more for a hammer forged melonite barrel. Hard to argue with that price.
I went ahead and ordered one. I hope it turns out nice.
6/15/2009 2:09:36 PM
Originally Posted By Postal0311:
That's $715, not including taxes and shipping. $10 more for a hammer forged melonite barrel. Hard to argue with that price.
I went ahead and ordered one. I hope it turns out nice.
That's $715, not including taxes and shipping. $10 more for a hammer forged melonite barrel. Hard to argue with that price.
I went ahead and ordered one. I hope it turns out nice.
Agreed, I'm looking forward to getting my hands on one as well.
6/15/2009 4:57:49 PM
Looks great beddazler!
6/17/2009 10:58:01 PM
Look for a pictorial overview of this upper shortly, with an in depth review to follow.
6/18/2009 1:07:16 PM
I just took delivery of one of these uppers and one of their "operator" uppers as well... (also now has the Melonite coated barrel) Both look FANTASTIC! I'll be trying them out this weekend!
6/19/2009 10:59:13 AM
Originally Posted By JFPatch:
Nice.
How about following it with a government profile mid-length?
Nice.
How about following it with a government profile mid-length?
And that, sir, should have been the first run.
6/19/2009 1:29:32 PM
WooHoo, mine shipped.
6/20/2009 1:08:20 PM
Right click on the picture, and then choose "view image" to see the picture in full size. For some reason this board code likes to butcher everything but the smallest of images.
6/21/2009 2:53:45 AM
Receive 10% off for Fathers day if you order before the 22nd. Just use the Coupon code FDAY during check out.
6/21/2009 9:23:04 AM
Are you going to provide any 10.5" barrels 
?
?6/21/2009 1:02:23 PM
Originally Posted By eternal24k:
Are you going to provide any 10.5" barrels?
Are you going to provide any 10.5" barrels
?Oh yeah! 16" M4's, 16" Middy's, and 10.5". All will be Government profile under the handguards.
6/21/2009 1:23:48 PM
Originally Posted By badazzar15:
Oh yeah! 16" M4's, 16" Middy's, and 10.5". All will be Government profile under the handguards.
Originally Posted By eternal24k:
Are you going to provide any 10.5" barrels?
Are you going to provide any 10.5" barrels
?Oh yeah! 16" M4's, 16" Middy's, and 10.5". All will be Government profile under the handguards.
