c.a.r 15 buttstock id?
Hey guys , I have a buttstock i purchased recently and after reviewing the thread on the vintage colt carbines i think it is an old car 15 stock. I do not currently have a picture of it but its just like the one on top in the picture from the thread i mentioned above.
Mine has all the shapes etc of the top one but has a coating more like the second one , mine has more of a dull powder type coating on it. The stock is marked only with a raised B , The rubber butt pad says CMI and on the inside of the rubber butt pad it says C.A.R.-15 . The tube that came with it is painted black and has 3 positions.
I am just curious if this is old or new and who made it =) I am thinking about a retro car15 build and i think this would work great =)
thanks everyone i appreciate any help i can get on this.
the raised B and the textured finish point to bushmaster. they made aluminum stocks back in the day. essential arms also used the same stock and powdercoated it. not sure if they bought the stocks from bushmaster or if they sourced them from the same mold with the B.
The ones EA used to sell before I joined arfcom were original Colts,,then when they ran out,they made there own that were an incredible exact recreation of the Colts but not marked with the Newton markings and sold them with original Colts 2 position tubes.When they ran out of tubes they only sold their near exact recreation stock body for a time.I bought one in 2008 and was told at the time,mine was the last one only to find out they "found" they had a few more from members who bought after me.
.Don't know what they offer now.. Boywonder is correct,,the B does seem to point to Bushmaster,it's definitely not Colts. And it sounds from your description that someone added a commercial rubber pad to it.
Originally Posted By m1sniper:
The ones EA used to sell before I joined arfcom were original Colts,,then when they ran out,they made there own that were an incredible exact recreation of the Colts but not marked with the Newton markings and sold them with original Colts 2 position tubes.When they ran out of tubes they only sold their near exact recreation stock body for a time.Don't know what they offer now.. Boywonder is correct,,the B does seem to point to Bushmaster,it's definitely not Colts. And it sounds from your description that someone added a commercial rubber pad to it.
interesting, didn't know that EA had original colts. did they buy out their remaining stock after they went to fiberlites? i'll have to ask mr. johnson next time i give them a call. i know he said that he gets them made complete from scratch now starting at the foundry with the castings.
When I bought my stock in 08 when the "shit hit the fan" on original Colts stocks,I called Mr Johnston and chatted. He told me just what I wrote above.They used to offer it as "Colts Upgrade" in their catalog and would be a set.Stock body,2 pos tube,end plate and lock ring. All Colts. As the supply dwindled,they got down to very few bodies,but still had some tubes.When I ordered mine,they no longer had the tubes.The stock body looked really good,I compared it to my next door neighbors 1984 SP1 carbine and it was identical except for the markings. When I finally score a couple/few original Colts,,a member made me an offer I could NOT refuse for the EA one.Sooo,I sold it.Wish I had kept it for referance purposes,,,but,,NDS Mike just had one for sale on the EE if you want to see what one looked like
Guys , I finnaly got some pictures of my car15 stuff , What do you think? Inside the rubber butt pad it says Car15
Also how can i tell if it is Mil spec or Civilian spec?
Measure the outer diameter of the tube (and the inner diameter of the stock, if it's wobbly on the tube).
Milspec should be around 1.147-1.150"
1.170" is about the norm.
from your pics, it looks like the pebbled finish. does it have a B on the side? if so, it's a bushmaster. looks to be commercial spec too from the receiver extension. the easiest way to tell it to look at the threads of the receiver extension, it the threads look to be cut into the tube, it's commercial. if the threads look to be raised off of the tube, then it's milspec.
Thanks Boywonder , The threads are cut into the tube so i have a civilian spec =) It does have a B on it =)