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 DEZ Arms Inc. 12.75" barrel
MarkRSims  [Team Member]
3/30/2010 5:15:20 AM EST
Anybody familiar with these guys and their 12.75 Inch Barrel ? Strikes me as an odd, but useful length.

Thought It could be an opportunity to pin on an xm177 style 'hider and finish out the last lower/A1 upper I've got.
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Gamma762  [Team Member]
3/30/2010 7:49:55 AM EST
The length is less common, but not unknown, and is most popular with suppressor users I think.

Just wondering about the utility though of trying to adapt a "government profiled" barrel in this length to a retro build.
Torquemada055  [Member]
3/30/2010 8:46:31 AM EST
How long a barrel do you need for 16" legal length with a XM177E2 fake moderator?
Just about this size before the moderator is attached. Then you will have enough length to be legal after it is permanantly attached if you live in one of hte commie states.
MarkRSims  [Team Member]
3/30/2010 9:30:03 AM EST
Originally Posted By Gamma762:
Just wondering about the utility though of trying to adapt a "government profiled" barrel in this length to a retro build.


Because of the length. The 3/4" forward area doesn't put me off. Not with this gun anyway.

Originally Posted By Torquemada055:
How long a barrel do you need for 16" legal length with a XM177E2 fake moderator?
Just about this size before the moderator is attached. Then you will have enough length to be legal after it is permanantly attached if you live in one of hte commie states.


That's what I was thinking.
Dawg180  [Team Member]
3/30/2010 10:57:18 AM EST
A 12.75" barrel would give you 16.25" with a 4.5" fake moderator permanently attached.

Der_Hans  [Member]
3/30/2010 12:41:08 PM EST
Originally Posted By Dawg180:
A 12.75" barrel would give you 16.25" with a 4.5" fake moderator permanently attached.



MmmmHmm...Now we just need to call them up and get them to A1 profile it...
chrashd  [Team Member]
3/30/2010 1:30:33 PM EST
I got a 16" barrel from them a while back. Good barrel, and they were great to deal with. I'll get another from them soon.
rrmark  [Member]
3/31/2010 9:28:21 AM EST
Mark,
I purchased a DEZ 12.75 barrel. Then I sent it to Alabama to Pat Medders " aka 45Bravo" for a pined 4.5 Moderator. I used a NoDak Spud retro upper and lower with Jerrel Sharp upper and lower retro parts.
The upper and lower are of the correct XM Gray. With an A-1 grip and carbine hand-guards it should look just like the one I carried in the early seventies. The wait time from 45Bravo has been lengthy.
Pat does it part time and works full time. Hey I'm retired and my wife said get a hobby. Little did she know.
Torquemada055  [Member]
3/31/2010 9:33:30 AM EST
Hey I'm retired and my wife said get a hobby. Little did she know


I got the same line, little did mine know it would be building AR's for the family.
Now I have RBR and she's not laughing anymore. But she has said that she get's
the 629 with triangle handguards since it's cuter and lighter than the one she
already has.... But, she did say I could build myself one AFTER get her's finished.
MarkRSims  [Team Member]
3/31/2010 10:41:29 AM EST
Originally Posted By rrmark:
Mark,
I purchased a DEZ 12.75 barrel. Then I sent it to Alabama to Pat Medders " aka 45Bravo" for a pined 4.5 Moderator. I used a NoDak Spud retro upper and lower with Jerrel Sharp upper and lower retro parts.
The upper and lower are of the correct XM Gray. With an A-1 grip and carbine hand-guards it should look just like the one I carried in the early seventies. The wait time from 45Bravo has been lengthy. When you see the end results, it'll be worth it. I waited 9 months for my A1 .458 Socom upper from Marty Ter Weeme. The level of care and craftsmanship these men exhibit brings a lot of customers.
Pat does it part time and works full time. Hey I'm retired and my wife said get a hobby. Little did she know.


Sounds nice. It'll come together well. I've got parts around from Pat and Jerrell, you can't beat the quality machine work that comes from these two gentlemen.

Couple questions about the barrel if you don't mind,

1) Was your barrel equipped with a pinned front sight base?

2) Is it noticeably longer than an 11.5"? I'm trying to balance an IDF carbine build between a 12.5" lightweight barrel and an M4 in a non SBR state.

I'm beginning to lean towards a 14.7" M4 and a pinned 'hider.

My hobby started 20 years ago when the kids started to walk, and the wife asked me to sell my handguns. 8 or so years ago, she told me I should buy an M1 Garand. Multiple Garands, 1911A1's, M1 Carbines, numerous AR15's, etc., handloading for all..... well.... here we are. Hellatious gal my wife.

ETA: Hey rrmark , I just noticed this was your first post. WELCOME!

101ABN327  [Member]
3/31/2010 11:15:27 AM EST
I think DEZ's 12.5" barrels are .750 under the gas block. I have three of their barrels and they all shoot great. I bought two of the light barrels and had them cut down to 12.5 and 45Bravo's moderator permanently installed and I had another one cut to 10" for my SBR 607. The third one is a 14.5 wit AAC suppressor mount pinned on my competition M4. DEZ makes a great barrel! I would go with the RETRO 16" and have it cut to your specifications.

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rrmark  [Member]
3/31/2010 1:31:57 PM EST
I asked Sherry at DEZ to install the front sight and to include the angled hand guard ring. Pat is taking the flashing and the bayonet lug off just as the original. As far as the diameter of the barrel, I bought the M-4 Military contour.
Now I will just have to drag it through the dirt, then listen to the Aromorur scream just like the old days...

Thanks for the welcome. I have been on here since November. I will post some photos when it's completed.
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