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EnfieldMk1  [Member]
4/5/2012 11:00:27 PM
I was wondering if it would be possible to use the .300 blackout for hunting small and medium sized game??? Thanks
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jasonusvi  [Team Member]
4/5/2012 11:10:50 PM
Yes
Lowco  [Team Member]
4/5/2012 11:13:37 PM
There is a kill thread on here somewhere
EnfieldMk1  [Member]
4/5/2012 11:16:34 PM
What would be the effective range of the round, if you were shooting it at a deer, or a coyote?
hi-tech-rancher  [Team Member]
4/6/2012 12:26:43 AM
Originally Posted By EnfieldMk1:
What would be the effective range of the round, if you were shooting it at a deer, or a coyote?


It all depends upon the bullet you are using and at what velocity it will still function. The .300 BLK is not designed for ranges much beyond 150-200 yards. Some bullets deform at lower speeds, like the Barnes 110 TTSX LV, but I am not sure they are out on the market yet. If you can hit a 6" vital zone 10 out of 10 times, that is your effective range, provided its within the performance envelope of the bullet.
forever4  [Team Member]
4/6/2012 12:51:57 AM
A little search on the "web" and you will find lots of info on people hunting with the 300 BLK. Seems its down right popular in certain areas. I have seen a lot of photos of hogs taken with it.
Parley  [Member]
4/6/2012 1:11:02 AM
Yes. However, don't use military bullets (as many have) and expect them to perform like a quality hunting bullet.
346ci  [Member]
4/6/2012 7:37:25 AM
Yes it will kill, no doubt. However, if the rig's main purpose is to hunt and shoot supersonic loads, the 6.8 or 6.5G/.264 would be a better choice. I prefer to have more power and range, I don't care to wound my game either.
EnfieldMk1  [Member]
4/6/2012 10:00:26 AM
Thanks for the information. I reload, so would this give me a better variety of bullets to use with the blackout, then just buying loaded ammo form the store?
GGGBeo50  [Member]
4/6/2012 10:27:45 AM
Originally Posted By hi-tech-rancher:
Originally Posted By EnfieldMk1:
What would be the effective range of the round, if you were shooting it at a deer, or a coyote?


It all depends upon the bullet you are using and at what velocity it will still function. The .300 BLK is not designed for ranges much beyond 150-200 yards. Some bullets deform at lower speeds, like the Barnes 110 TTSX LV, but I am not sure they are out on the market yet. If you can hit a 6" vital zone 10 out of 10 times, that is your effective range, provided its within the performance envelope of the bullet.


the 110 TTSX is out there. I have bought plenty. Very impressive.
QuicksilverJPR  [Team Member]
4/6/2012 10:31:40 AM
Originally Posted By GGGBeo50:
Originally Posted By hi-tech-rancher:
Originally Posted By EnfieldMk1:
What would be the effective range of the round, if you were shooting it at a deer, or a coyote?


It all depends upon the bullet you are using and at what velocity it will still function. The .300 BLK is not designed for ranges much beyond 150-200 yards. Some bullets deform at lower speeds, like the Barnes 110 TTSX LV, but I am not sure they are out on the market yet. If you can hit a 6" vital zone 10 out of 10 times, that is your effective range, provided its within the performance envelope of the bullet.


the 110 TTSX is out there. I have bought plenty. Very impressive.


That bullet (and all the TTSX bullets) are extremely effective....
GGGBeo50  [Member]
4/6/2012 10:42:21 AM
Originally Posted By QuicksilverJPR:
Originally Posted By GGGBeo50:
Originally Posted By hi-tech-rancher:
Originally Posted By EnfieldMk1:
What would be the effective range of the round, if you were shooting it at a deer, or a coyote?


It all depends upon the bullet you are using and at what velocity it will still function. The .300 BLK is not designed for ranges much beyond 150-200 yards. Some bullets deform at lower speeds, like the Barnes 110 TTSX LV, but I am not sure they are out on the market yet. If you can hit a 6" vital zone 10 out of 10 times, that is your effective range, provided its within the performance envelope of the bullet.


the 110 TTSX is out there. I have bought plenty. Very impressive.


That bullet (and all the TTSX bullets) are extremely effective....


agreed, 95g TTSX out of my 6.8 at 2900+ fps, there is no escape
hi-tech-rancher  [Team Member]
4/6/2012 11:07:43 AM
Originally Posted By GGGBeo50:
Originally Posted By QuicksilverJPR:
Originally Posted By GGGBeo50:
Originally Posted By hi-tech-rancher:
Originally Posted By EnfieldMk1:
What would be the effective range of the round, if you were shooting it at a deer, or a coyote?


It all depends upon the bullet you are using and at what velocity it will still function. The .300 BLK is not designed for ranges much beyond 150-200 yards. Some bullets deform at lower speeds, like the Barnes 110 TTSX LV, but I am not sure they are out on the market yet. If you can hit a 6" vital zone 10 out of 10 times, that is your effective range, provided its within the performance envelope of the bullet.


the 110 TTSX is out there. I have bought plenty. Very impressive.


That bullet (and all the TTSX bullets) are extremely effective....


agreed, 95g TTSX out of my 6.8 at 2900+ fps, there is no escape




You must be using a 20" barrel. Max pressure loads produce 2850 out of 16" and 2900 out of a 20" barrel
makintrax73  [Team Member]
4/6/2012 12:14:09 PM
Is this going to be another "300blk is a sissy caliber, and my 6.8 is a death ray" pissing match?

buffetdestroyer  [Member]
4/6/2012 1:18:27 PM
Originally Posted By makintrax73:
Is this going to be another "300blk is a sissy caliber, and my 6.8 is a death ray" pissing match?



Yup, it looks that way.


The OP is asking if the 300 BLK works as a hunting round. Team 6.8 does not acknowledge that other calibers exist or are effective at anything so they quote how amazing the 6.8 is rather than addressing the caliber in the OP's question and when they do, they typically subtract 100 yards off its effective range.

The answer to the OP is yes. Many states rule against .22 caliber projectiles for hunting game, but the 300 BLK will be acceptable within most state laws (some states won't allow suppressed hunting, so check your local laws before putting on the can).

With multiple bullets you can reach out to 250-300 yards humanely with lethal expansion for small to medium game (with proper shot placement). Hornady 110 V Max, 125 Speer TNT, 125 Sierra Soft Point, 125 Nosler Ballistic Tip are available and will work fine. Remington has their 300 BLK specific 125 grain Accutip bullet available in a factory load. The new Barnes 110's blue tips are available at Wilson Combat's website and are IN STOCK to order as of right now! The Black Tips are harder to find, but will continue to become available so check often.

If you are using subsonic 220 grain bullets, check out Outlaw State Bullets and keep it within 150 yards with proper shot placement. Not cheap, but they are available despite what Team 6.8 will lead you to believe.
QuicksilverJPR  [Team Member]
4/6/2012 1:38:29 PM
Originally Posted By buffetdestroyer:
Originally Posted By makintrax73:
Is this going to be another "300blk is a sissy caliber, and my 6.8 is a death ray" pissing match?



Yup, it looks that way.


The OP is asking if the 300 BLK works as a hunting round. Team 6.8 does not acknowledge that other calibers exist or are effective at anything so they quote how amazing the 6.8 is rather than addressing the caliber in the OP's question and when they do, they typically subtract 100 yards off its effective range.

The answer to the OP is yes. Many states rule against .22 caliber projectiles for hunting game, but the 300 BLK will be acceptable within most state laws (some states won't allow suppressed hunting, so check your local laws before putting on the can).

With multiple bullets you can reach out to 250-300 yards humanely with lethal expansion for small to medium game (with proper shot placement). Hornady 110 V Max, 125 Speer TNT, 125 Sierra Soft Point, 125 Nosler Ballistic Tip are available and will work fine. Remington has their 300 BLK specific 125 grain Accutip bullet available in a factory load. The new Barnes 110's blue tips are available at Wilson Combat's website and are IN STOCK to order as of right now! The Black Tips are harder to find, but will continue to become available so check often.

If you are using subsonic 220 grain bullets, check out Outlaw State Bullets and keep it within 150 yards with proper shot placement. Not cheap, but they are available despite what Team 6.8 will lead you to believe.



Looks like you were the one to bring up the fight, IMHO. The other poster stated facts about a type of bullet that performs well. Team 6.8 isn't leading you to believe jack shit....

I do not own the caliber (would like to since I have a metric shitload of 5.56/.223 brass), but I would consider some of the Hawk Precision Bullets as well (definitely for subsonic work, to see if they expand like their .458 bullets do for me in the SOCOM). They have up to 250gr projectiles, and a 200gr with a pretty thin jacket. I'm pretty sure I could make those work in medium game....
EnfieldMk1  [Member]
4/6/2012 1:50:52 PM
Thanks for the information, after I'm done building my rifle, which will probably be a .300 blackout, it will get a suppressor, but not for about a year. I have some 223 brass, and I heard that you can make .300blk brass out of it, is this true?
QuicksilverJPR  [Team Member]
4/6/2012 2:09:16 PM
Originally Posted By EnfieldMk1:
Thanks for the information, after I'm done building my rifle, which will probably be a .300 blackout, it will get a suppressor, but not for about a year. I have some 223 brass, and I heard that you can make .300blk brass out of it, is this true?


Absolutely. That's probably one of the two great primary things about the .300AAC
GGGBeo50  [Member]
4/6/2012 2:12:04 PM
Originally Posted By hi-tech-rancher:


You must be using a 20" barrel. Max pressure loads produce 2850 out of 16" and 2900 out of a 20" barrel


18", 30.0 g of RL 10 and bullet set out to 2.30" COAL, over 2900 FPS, slightly flattened primers. YMMV, to anyone writing this down, dont use this load until you have worked up to here, every gun is different. This is almost a full grain over what Barnes publishes.
buffetdestroyer  [Member]
4/6/2012 2:52:50 PM
Originally Posted By GGGBeo50:
Originally Posted By hi-tech-rancher:


You must be using a 20" barrel. Max pressure loads produce 2850 out of 16" and 2900 out of a 20" barrel


18", 30.0 g of RL 10 and bullet set out to 2.30" COAL, over 2900 FPS, slightly flattened primers. YMMV, to anyone writing this down, dont use this load until you have worked up to here, every gun is different. This is almost a full grain over what Barnes publishes.


Really?

Posting over-pressure 6.8 load recipes on a thread about hunting with a 300 BLK?


GGGBeo50  [Member]
4/6/2012 3:10:38 PM
Originally Posted By buffetdestroyer:
Originally Posted By GGGBeo50:
Originally Posted By hi-tech-rancher:


You must be using a 20" barrel. Max pressure loads produce 2850 out of 16" and 2900 out of a 20" barrel


18", 30.0 g of RL 10 and bullet set out to 2.30" COAL, over 2900 FPS, slightly flattened primers. YMMV, to anyone writing this down, dont use this load until you have worked up to here, every gun is different. This is almost a full grain over what Barnes publishes.


Really?

Posting over-pressure 6.8 load recipes on a thread about hunting with a 300 BLK?




yeah, and here are some reloading recipe's that are safe for the 300 BLK to suit your fancy.

130g Barnes TTSX - 17.6g of 1680, 2.07 COAL
110g Barnes TTXS - 18.1g of 1680, 2.19 COAL
EnfieldMk1  [Member]
4/6/2012 6:42:15 PM
Thanks everyone, this has been a helpful, and interesting
kaos  [Team Member]
4/6/2012 7:17:51 PM
Hickok45 on youtube has a pair of vids about the 300blk posted.
You might want to watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd_2tcj7P4s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5ALp8-d3dQ
EnfieldMk1  [Member]
4/6/2012 8:39:23 PM
Thanks for the video links. I am now sure that my build will be a .300 Blackout. I was looking at PSAs 300blk upper, and I will prabably get that one because of its price. I do have a PSA lower that is well made, so I hope their uppers are the same. Does anyone on here own a PSAs 300blk upper???
makintrax73  [Team Member]
4/6/2012 9:48:12 PM
Originally Posted By EnfieldMk1:
Thanks for the video links. I am now sure that my build will be a .300 Blackout. I was looking at PSAs 300blk upper, and I will prabably get that one because of its price. I do have a PSA lower that is well made, so I hope their uppers are the same. Does anyone on here own a PSAs 300blk upper???


I used one of their 300blk CHF barrels, which I believe they also use on all of their 300blk uppers. Only a few rounds through it so far, but showing some very nice accuracy potential.
Weber  [Team Member]
4/6/2012 10:08:32 PM
How is for hunting not suppressed?
glk34  [Member]
4/6/2012 11:50:29 PM
Originally Posted By Weber:
How is for hunting not suppressed?


works just as good. Ive shot deer and pigs without a can on. Ive shot deer and coyotes with a can on.
EnfieldMk1  [Member]
4/7/2012 9:55:42 AM
What were the ranges on the deer and coyote that you shot?
glk34  [Member]
4/7/2012 11:19:44 AM
Originally Posted By EnfieldMk1:
What were the ranges on the deer and coyote that you shot?


anywhere from the closest shot being 8 yards to the farthest being around 175. Ive killed most everything with hornady sst's in 150 gr. and a couple with ttsx 130's. The fun thing ive seen with now 3 deer and 2 coyotes is they've ran straight at me not knowing where the shot came from. I shot one deer and the second one came running right at me and I shot it. That was fun. I havent hunted with my 8" barrel yet so cant say on it. The 16" I hunted with and without the can. Regardless of what the jackass 6.8 people say and try and talk you out of the .300. The .300 Is a great hunting round. And as time goes by it will become even more effective with a larger range of technologically advanced bullets evolving.


EnfieldMk1  [Member]
4/7/2012 2:33:41 PM
Thanks glk34. I decided that I will most likely go with the .300 blackout, I think it will fit my needs better then a 5.56 would. I will probably get a PSA upper, and I hope to have my gun completed in the next couple of months Thanks for all of the help everyone.
QuicksilverJPR  [Team Member]
4/8/2012 1:34:59 PM
Originally Posted By glk34:
Originally Posted By EnfieldMk1:
What were the ranges on the deer and coyote that you shot?


anywhere from the closest shot being 8 yards to the farthest being around 175. Ive killed most everything with hornady sst's in 150 gr. and a couple with ttsx 130's. The fun thing ive seen with now 3 deer and 2 coyotes is they've ran straight at me not knowing where the shot came from. I shot one deer and the second one came running right at me and I shot it. That was fun. I havent hunted with my 8" barrel yet so cant say on it. The 16" I hunted with and without the can. Regardless of what the jackass 6.8 people say and try and talk you out of the .300. The .300 Is a great hunting round. And as time goes by it will become even more effective with a larger range of technologically advanced bullets evolving.





I'm not seeing anyone try and talk him out of a .300....

But I would suggest you refrain from making idiotic generalizations that do not have technical merit.
ramcdaniel1  [Member]
4/8/2012 2:15:31 PM
Originally Posted By QuicksilverJPR:
Originally Posted By glk34:
Originally Posted By EnfieldMk1:
What were the ranges on the deer and coyote that you shot?


anywhere from the closest shot being 8 yards to the farthest being around 175. Ive killed most everything with hornady sst's in 150 gr. and a couple with ttsx 130's. The fun thing ive seen with now 3 deer and 2 coyotes is they've ran straight at me not knowing where the shot came from. I shot one deer and the second one came running right at me and I shot it. That was fun. I havent hunted with my 8" barrel yet so cant say on it. The 16" I hunted with and without the can. Regardless of what the jackass 6.8 people say and try and talk you out of the .300. The .300 Is a great hunting round. And as time goes by it will become even more effective with a larger range of technologically advanced bullets evolving.





I'm not seeing anyone try and talk him out of a .300....

But I would suggest you refrain from making idiotic generalizations that do not have technical merit.


Then you haven't been paying attention to 346ci's posts.



jefro  [Team Member]
4/8/2012 6:04:02 PM
Remington is or will be offering a sps 700 in 300 blackout so I just may have to get one
GGGBeo50  [Member]
4/8/2012 8:03:40 PM
Originally Posted By jefro:
Remington is or will be offering a sps 700 in 300 blackout so I just may have to get one


yeah, the 300 blk handi rifle is supposed to be out already, I want one now.
glk34  [Member]
4/8/2012 9:44:32 PM
Id like to try the AAC .300 rifle built on the remington model 7 action. But if Remington comes out with an sps with threaded barrel for less $ that would probly be bought first. Would make for a very quiet gun.



RTBA-8  [Team Member]
4/11/2012 7:52:01 PM
Killed 2 deer and a hog with mine last year. All with 125 grain Sierra Pro Hunters handloaded to 2300-ish fps. One shot kills all.
cchurchi  [Team Member]
4/11/2012 9:06:13 PM
Went coyote hunting with my suppressed 8". I waited for my cousin to take a shot at 100 yards with his 243. After he missed, the coyote started running and I opened up on it and proceeded to miss about 15 consecutive shots and he got away.

That would be one dead coyote if I had a 6.8
Weber  [Team Member]
4/11/2012 11:34:04 PM
Originally Posted By cchurchi:
Went coyote hunting with my suppressed 8". I waited for my cousin to take a shot at 100 yards with his 243. After he missed, the coyote started running and I opened up on it and proceeded to miss about 15 consecutive shots and he got away.

That would be one dead coyote if I had a 6.8


Absolutely...
glk34  [Member]
4/12/2012 12:50:00 AM
LOL. So yes you can hit a running coyote with a 6.8. Never the .300.... Oh did I forget to mention that one of the coyotes I shot was when I was in OK pig hunting and the coyote was at a full sprint?


cchurchi  [Team Member]
4/12/2012 7:39:07 PM
Originally Posted By Weber:
Originally Posted By cchurchi:
Went coyote hunting with my suppressed 8". I waited for my cousin to take a shot at 100 yards with his 243. After he missed, the coyote started running and I opened up on it and proceeded to miss about 15 consecutive shots and he got away.

That would be one dead coyote if I had a 6.8


Absolutely...


Those subsonics were much slower than I was expecting / used to.
glk34  [Member]
4/12/2012 11:06:51 PM
Originally Posted By cchurchi:
Originally Posted By Weber:
Originally Posted By cchurchi:
Went coyote hunting with my suppressed 8". I waited for my cousin to take a shot at 100 yards with his 243. After he missed, the coyote started running and I opened up on it and proceeded to miss about 15 consecutive shots and he got away.

That would be one dead coyote if I had a 6.8


Absolutely...


Those subsonics were much slower than I was expecting / used to.


Yes it would be difficult to shoot a running coyote with subs. I still hunt with supers even with my can on.
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