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Burnsome-  [Team Member]
5/19/2011 6:58:20 PM
anybody make one?
RedFalconBill  [Team Member]
5/19/2011 7:19:44 PM
.35 Remington COAL - 2.525"

Will not fit in an AR-15 and an AR-10 style people would do .338 Federal or .358 Winchester.

Maybe somebody will expand the .30AR case up to fit a 0.358" bullet.
TonyRumore  [Member]
5/20/2011 12:03:01 AM
Not an AR, but this Remington Model 8 holds 15 rounds of 35Rem in its detachable magazine.

chris65  [Team Member]
5/20/2011 9:03:39 AM
Originally Posted By TonyRumore:
Not an AR, but this Remington Model 8 holds 15 rounds of 35Rem in its detachable magazine.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l246/TonyRumore/Rifles/Mdl8a.jpg


Awesome. Which mag used there? And did it use shortened 35 rounds to fit the mag?
Looks very handy for throwing big lead at multiple Big Critters.
FS7  [Member]
5/20/2011 10:11:32 AM
The .35 Remington uses fat, soft-point bullets, and I can't imagine these would feed well (if at all) in an AR-type rifle.
1-Wolverine  [Member]
5/20/2011 10:21:14 AM
I was looking into doing a 35 Grendel, which would according to my ballistics program, have 35 Remington ballistics out of a AR-15. I just have not pursued any further yet. It has been done, It is called a 358 Gremlin, if memory serves me correctly.
leper65  [Member]
5/20/2011 1:07:19 PM
http://www.bfgcartridges.com/358Gremlin.html

Sounds like a nice little deer thumper!
only1asterisk  [Team Member]
5/20/2011 1:07:39 PM
You could do it. The OAL would be OK with some revolver bullets. The feeding is going to take some work. Factory type ammo would be a single load proposition. I'd rather have a 35 WSSM with a superbolt upper.
MGP  [Member]
5/20/2011 2:09:41 PM
Originally Posted By Burnsome-:
anybody make one?


I did a wildcat off of the old 30 remington that out performs the 35 remington and uses 6.8 bolts and mags

I use Hornady ssp/sp 180gr and speer hot-cor 180gr and it feeds great!

Works Great on Coyotes too

QuicksilverJPR  [Team Member]
5/20/2011 2:28:52 PM
Originally Posted By MGP:
Originally Posted By Burnsome-:
anybody make one?


I did a wildcat off of the old 30 remington that out performs the 35 remington and uses 6.8 bolts and mags

I use Hornady ssp/sp 180gr and speer hot-cor 180gr and it feeds great!

Works Great on Coyotes too
http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee441/mgp11/COYOTE002.jpg


I'd say it works well! It blew the spine and ribs right out of that yard dog!
762x40mm  [Team Member]
5/20/2011 4:22:29 PM




.358 ARk

Can be made from Grendel or 7.62x39 Russian.....I prefer the x39 brass over the Grendel, don't end up with the ring in the neck as with the Grendel brass....

runs great from either 10rd or 30rd C-Products 7.62x39 mags....usually have enough slop in them to allow the .358 bullet without any mods....

Mike's .358 on the .30 rem or 6.8 SPC is a great choice if you're set up for SPC.....

Have been wanting to do a .358 RAR on .30 RAR brass, but no time....I think it would be a better set-up than the .30 is......
Burnsome-  [Team Member]
5/20/2011 6:44:38 PM
wow! cool stuff guys....

since i have a 35 Marlin i thought there might be a way but i guess the OAL is too long to fit on an AR15 receiver.

have thought about getting a 6.8SPC but ammo is expensive.

the 358ARk looks mighty impressive. so does anybody make an upper ready-to-go on something like that or is it a custom build process?
mlg123  [Team Member]
5/20/2011 6:54:24 PM
As others have mentioned, the cartridge is a little long for the AR mag.

I went the wild cat route with a rimless version of the .357 Herrett. Work & shoots just fine from the AR 15 platform.

MLG
Cavitation  [Member]
5/20/2011 7:07:40 PM
358wssm?
only1asterisk  [Team Member]
5/20/2011 9:00:14 PM
Originally Posted By mlg123:
As others have mentioned, the cartridge is a little long for the AR mag.

I went the wild cat route with a rimless version of the .357 Herrett. Work & shoots just fine from the AR 15 platform.

MLG


I have a dummy cartridge I made up for a rimless 357 Herrett with a shorter neck a few years ago. I'd be interested to hear your results.


762x40mm  [Team Member]
5/20/2011 11:42:15 PM
Originally Posted By Burnsome-:

the 358ARk looks mighty impressive. so does anybody make an upper ready-to-go on something like that or is it a custom build process?



the .358 ARk was a one-off, or I guess a five-off proof of concept.

there are several smith's or wildcatters out there that could put something similar together for you.....







MartytW  [Team Member]
5/21/2011 9:11:06 AM
2002 project to make US version of 9 x 39. Uses true 9mm bullets (Hawk 250 gr version shown) on 30 Rem brass. Back then, 30 Rem brass suddenly disappeared (the 6.8 project team was buying all of it turns out) and abandoned the idea


mlg123  [Team Member]
5/21/2011 9:11:47 PM
Originally Posted By only1asterisk:
Originally Posted By mlg123:
As others have mentioned, the cartridge is a little long for the AR mag.

I went the wild cat route with a rimless version of the .357 Herrett. Work & shoots just fine from the AR 15 platform.

MLG


I have a dummy cartridge I made up for a rimless 357 Herrett with a shorter neck a few years ago. I'd be interested to hear your results.




Mine is simply a 30 Rem cartridge (parent case for 6.8 SPC) run through a 357 Herrett die & shortened to a length of 1.70" & fireformed with reduced loads & pistol bullets. Proper bullets are seated to mag length. Reamer is a custom one cut to my specs by PTG. The mag did have to be altered to function properly with the larger diameter bullets just as MGP showed with his creation/post (gotta give credit where its due cause he inspired me to go ahead with mine). I think his is a slightly better cartridge but mine has the benifit of using standard reloading dies that can still be found.
Results with Horn 180 SPs are half inch groups with R-7 running right at 2000 fps and 1.5" with H335 at about 2400fps. Both are compressed loads and function just fine with standard buffers. All & all I am quite pleased with it.

MLG

MGP  [Member]
5/22/2011 4:07:49 PM
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5/22/2011 4:20:10 PM
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MGP  [Member]
5/22/2011 4:32:43 PM
Glad to hear i gave you some insperation.I wish i went the route you did dies take to long to have made. Easy mag mod


180gr Speer Hot-Cor , 180gr Hornady SSP











Originally Posted By mlg123:
Originally Posted By only1asterisk:
Originally Posted By mlg123:
As others have mentioned, the cartridge is a little long for the AR mag.

I went the wild cat route with a rimless version of the .357 Herrett. Work & shoots just fine from the AR 15 platform.

MLG


I have a dummy cartridge I made up for a rimless 357 Herrett with a shorter neck a few years ago. I'd be interested to hear your results.




Mine is simply a 30 Rem cartridge (parent case for 6.8 SPC) run through a 357 Herrett die & shortened to a length of 1.70" & fireformed with reduced loads & pistol bullets. Proper bullets are seated to mag length. Reamer is a custom one cut to my specs by PTG. The mag did have to be altered to function properly with the larger diameter bullets just as MGP showed with his creation/post (gotta give credit where its due cause he inspired me to go ahead with mine). I think his is a slightly better cartridge but mine has the benifit of using standard reloading dies that can still be found.
Results with Horn 180 SPs are half inch groups with R-7 running right at 2000 fps and 1.5" with H335 at about 2400fps. Both are compressed loads and function just fine with standard buffers. All & all I am quite pleased with it.

MLG



mlg123  [Team Member]
5/23/2011 7:00:26 AM
Originally Posted By MGP:
Glad to hear i gave you some insperation.I wish i went the route you did dies take to long to have made. Easy mag mod
http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee441/mgp11/PRIMODIFIEDMAG.jpg

180gr Speer Hot-Cor , 180gr Hornady SSP

http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee441/mgp11/SPEER180GRHORNADY180GR.jpg









Originally Posted By mlg123:
Originally Posted By only1asterisk:
Originally Posted By mlg123:
As others have mentioned, the cartridge is a little long for the AR mag.

I went the wild cat route with a rimless version of the .357 Herrett. Work & shoots just fine from the AR 15 platform.

MLG


I have a dummy cartridge I made up for a rimless 357 Herrett with a shorter neck a few years ago. I'd be interested to hear your results.




Mine is simply a 30 Rem cartridge (parent case for 6.8 SPC) run through a 357 Herrett die & shortened to a length of 1.70" & fireformed with reduced loads & pistol bullets. Proper bullets are seated to mag length. Reamer is a custom one cut to my specs by PTG. The mag did have to be altered to function properly with the larger diameter bullets just as MGP showed with his creation/post (gotta give credit where its due cause he inspired me to go ahead with mine). I think his is a slightly better cartridge but mine has the benifit of using standard reloading dies that can still be found.
Results with Horn 180 SPs are half inch groups with R-7 running right at 2000 fps and 1.5" with H335 at about 2400fps. Both are compressed loads and function just fine with standard buffers. All & all I am quite pleased with it.

MLG





That's pretty much exactly what mine loook like.
8654  [Member]
5/23/2011 8:57:14 AM
Originally Posted By 762x40mm:
http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=23738

http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=7058

.358 ARk

Can be made from Grendel or 7.62x39 Russian.....I prefer the x39 brass over the Grendel, don't end up with the ring in the neck as with the Grendel brass....

runs great from either 10rd or 30rd C-Products 7.62x39 mags....usually have enough slop in them to allow the .358 bullet without any mods....

Mike's .358 on the .30 rem or 6.8 SPC is a great choice if you're set up for SPC.....

Have been wanting to do a .358 RAR on .30 RAR brass, but no time....I think it would be a better set-up than the .30 is......




Kurt,
How is the 7mm ARK coming? 7.62x40WT still got you tied down?

Thanks,
8654

762x40mm  [Team Member]
5/23/2011 3:01:14 PM
Originally Posted By 8654:


Kurt,
How is the 7mm ARK coming? 7.62x40WT still got you tied down?

Thanks,
8654



I have one small change that I would like to make for a 7mm ARk production piece....

the 7.62x40 is pretty much on auto-pilot now, just trying to predict and stay ahead of consumption....



Siringo  [Member]
5/27/2011 10:03:01 AM
Just what I have been looking for. Where can we get barrels?