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FAKE SOPMOD Telestocks
12/5/2010 12:50:45 AM
Checking out the fake SOPMOD pics at the LMT website
I have a question?
Back in 06 I order a Defender 2000 SOPMOD ,2 stage trigger ,lower
From a LMT approved dealer that was listed at the LMT website. I even double checked with LMT.
My SOPMOD is different from the FAKE and the REAL SOPMOD that is pictured.
I have the LMT logo on the Latch . check
But under the SLING SLOT I have the PATnumbers
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
PAT. #US6543172B1
PAT.PENDING
Anyone have a SOPMOD marked like this?
Also who is makeing the Fake SOPMOD ? I also heard KAC makes them as well.
I have a question?
Back in 06 I order a Defender 2000 SOPMOD ,2 stage trigger ,lower
From a LMT approved dealer that was listed at the LMT website. I even double checked with LMT.
My SOPMOD is different from the FAKE and the REAL SOPMOD that is pictured.
I have the LMT logo on the Latch . check
But under the SLING SLOT I have the PATnumbers
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
PAT. #US6543172B1
PAT.PENDING
Anyone have a SOPMOD marked like this?
Also who is makeing the Fake SOPMOD ? I also heard KAC makes them as well.
12/5/2010 1:11:18 AM
What looks different? LMT made some changes a couple of years ago. A QD socket was added and the number was moved from below the sling slot to above the latch.
What color are the o-rings on the caps of the storage tubes? They should be red and there will be two per cap.
What color are the o-rings on the caps of the storage tubes? They should be red and there will be two per cap.
12/5/2010 1:19:47 AM
KAC makes the SOPMOD for LMT
12/5/2010 2:04:50 AM
Originally Posted By mvician:
KAC makes the SOPMOD for LMT
KAC makes the SOPMOD for LMT
so THATS why it cost almost double what it should...
12/5/2010 2:31:55 AM
You made me pull my Recce out to double check the authenticity. Thankfully it's real! Mine has the markings just like LMT says it should.
12/5/2010 12:05:22 PM
Originally Posted By slappomatt:
so THATS why it cost almost double what it should...
Originally Posted By mvician:
KAC makes the SOPMOD for LMT
KAC makes the SOPMOD for LMT
so THATS why it cost almost double what it should...
No joke. I just bought a SOPMOD to replace an UBR. I'm not seeing the $179 I paid for it!
Pretty basic stuff there!
Don't get me wrong, it's a great, super light stock, but sheesh, I think MSRP should be about $129, not $199.
12/6/2010 12:51:06 PM
Not sure what changes were made where and when as far as moving the patent numbers as I don't have my LMTs around to check at the moment, but they're all Gen 1 (no QD). IIRC, it was moved when the Gen 2 stock was introduced as you can see in the stocks where there has been a modification to the mold for the QD slot, and it would have interfered with where the old patent numbers were. That being said, if you have the two red O-rings and the LMT marked latch, I would state with a fair degree of confidence that you have a genuine LMT stock.
As for who makes 'em, as someone else mentioned, the SOPMOD stocks are manufactured for LMT by KAC. There are also oodles of Airsoft counterfeits out there, some of them that fit on commercial receiver extensions, so a "commercial" SOPMOD is definitely a red flag. Some of the counterfeits still mimic the old style markings of the Gen 1 stocks, to my (albeit limited) knowledge of Airsoft accessories, there's not a counterfeit Gen 2 SOPMOD out there. Also, all the counterfeit SOPMODs do not have LMT marked latches, rather they have standard latches.
One final note, however, just because a stock does not have an LMT latch doesn't automatically make it counterfeit, either. The very first "Enhanced Cheekweld" M4 stocks were manufactured by NSWC-Crane and used standard Colt collapsible stock latches before LMT/KAC picked up production. I've heard that ARMS sold a few of the original Crane stocks several years back, and a few of them are circulating around. They're not any better or worse, and really more of just a novelty to have, but they are not "clones" or "fakes" in a strict sense.
HTH,
~Augee
As for who makes 'em, as someone else mentioned, the SOPMOD stocks are manufactured for LMT by KAC. There are also oodles of Airsoft counterfeits out there, some of them that fit on commercial receiver extensions, so a "commercial" SOPMOD is definitely a red flag. Some of the counterfeits still mimic the old style markings of the Gen 1 stocks, to my (albeit limited) knowledge of Airsoft accessories, there's not a counterfeit Gen 2 SOPMOD out there. Also, all the counterfeit SOPMODs do not have LMT marked latches, rather they have standard latches.
One final note, however, just because a stock does not have an LMT latch doesn't automatically make it counterfeit, either. The very first "Enhanced Cheekweld" M4 stocks were manufactured by NSWC-Crane and used standard Colt collapsible stock latches before LMT/KAC picked up production. I've heard that ARMS sold a few of the original Crane stocks several years back, and a few of them are circulating around. They're not any better or worse, and really more of just a novelty to have, but they are not "clones" or "fakes" in a strict sense.
HTH,
~Augee
12/6/2010 1:35:47 PM
If you look at who designed the stock, and that it was done when there was nothing like it on the market, you can see where the price came from. Add in that it is an item with a NSN, and that it can not be sold for less to the commercial market than it can the MIL, and the price structure becomes a little more understandable.
The IMOD, and ACS are two stocks that work nicely in a similar capacity, and are cheaper.
The IMOD, and ACS are two stocks that work nicely in a similar capacity, and are cheaper.
12/6/2010 2:50:23 PM
Here is the warning they sent me:
The following notice is being posted for your protection.
We have been fielding calls about a SOPMOD butt stock (NSN 1005-01-544-9825) which looks like ours. MFR 58VQ8 IS NOT LMT. Our cage code is 3W544.
Look for the genuine LMT marking on the under side of the release lever. Also note the placement of the Patent Pending on the genuine Lewis Machine & Tool SOPMOD is on the flat above the release lever under the cheek weld. Not in the center of the flat.
The counterfeit stock has 192000 13020680 MFR 56V08 and the underside of the release lever has no marking. Please visit our website for photos.
The following notice is being posted for your protection.
We have been fielding calls about a SOPMOD butt stock (NSN 1005-01-544-9825) which looks like ours. MFR 58VQ8 IS NOT LMT. Our cage code is 3W544.
Look for the genuine LMT marking on the under side of the release lever. Also note the placement of the Patent Pending on the genuine Lewis Machine & Tool SOPMOD is on the flat above the release lever under the cheek weld. Not in the center of the flat.
The counterfeit stock has 192000 13020680 MFR 56V08 and the underside of the release lever has no marking. Please visit our website for photos.
12/6/2010 6:18:35 PM
Mine is all good but has the pat # under the slot
Yes it has the RED Orings
Maybe LMT should show pics of the older model as well
From there pics and what is on the LMT web site , It made it sound like mine was FAKE?
Anyways Thanks guys
I wonder if The FAKE SOPMOD is any good???
Yes it has the RED Orings
Maybe LMT should show pics of the older model as well
From there pics and what is on the LMT web site , It made it sound like mine was FAKE?
Anyways Thanks guys
I wonder if The FAKE SOPMOD is any good???
12/7/2010 12:30:19 AM
Originally Posted By FMJ:
Mine is all good but has the pat # under the slot
Yes it has the RED Orings
Maybe LMT should show pics of the older model as well
From there pics and what is on the LMT web site , It made it sound like mine was FAKE?
Anyways Thanks guys
I wonder if The FAKE SOPMOD is any good???
Mine is all good but has the pat # under the slot
Yes it has the RED Orings
Maybe LMT should show pics of the older model as well
From there pics and what is on the LMT web site , It made it sound like mine was FAKE?
Anyways Thanks guys
I wonder if The FAKE SOPMOD is any good???
if it's fake, it's most likely not made with high quality, impact resistant/glass filled polymer
12/7/2010 10:31:01 AM
FYI,
Even some of the Airsoft replicas have the logo on the release handle.....
$20 SOPMOD replica.
http://www.apextac.com/catalog/item/6540844/7982360.htm (link for informational purposes only, not a recommendation to purchase here)
Buyer beware.
BTW, thanks to the OP for posting this thread....it was nice to confirm for sure that my Ebay purchased SOPMOD is legit. Darm well should be for the price :-)
Even some of the Airsoft replicas have the logo on the release handle.....
$20 SOPMOD replica.
http://www.apextac.com/catalog/item/6540844/7982360.htm (link for informational purposes only, not a recommendation to purchase here)
Buyer beware.
BTW, thanks to the OP for posting this thread....it was nice to confirm for sure that my Ebay purchased SOPMOD is legit. Darm well should be for the price :-)
12/10/2010 9:52:52 AM
According to Gene Swanson Email yesterday
He stated that if it has the LMT logo it GTG ????
Then you see Air Soft copies like in the above pics>
So Now who knows???
Red Orings prove anything??
He stated that if it has the LMT logo it GTG ????
Then you see Air Soft copies like in the above pics>
So Now who knows???
Red Orings prove anything??
12/10/2010 9:36:01 PM
Buy it from a reputable dealer and not from some fly-by-night outfit
12/11/2010 2:49:19 AM
Originally Posted By Stickman:
If you look at who designed the stock, and that it was done when there was nothing like it on the market, you can see where the price came from. Add in that it is an item with a NSN, and that it can not be sold for less to the commercial market than it can the MIL, and the price structure becomes a little more understandable.
The IMOD, and ACS are two stocks that work nicely in a similar capacity, and are cheaper.
If you look at who designed the stock, and that it was done when there was nothing like it on the market, you can see where the price came from. Add in that it is an item with a NSN, and that it can not be sold for less to the commercial market than it can the MIL, and the price structure becomes a little more understandable.
The IMOD, and ACS are two stocks that work nicely in a similar capacity, and are cheaper.
Gotst to have the government cheese!
12/11/2010 12:03:00 PM
Originally Posted By mvician:
KAC makes the SOPMOD for LMT
KAC makes the SOPMOD for LMT
Not trying to be argumentative , BUT can you prove that by providing the source of your information ?
Thanks
12/11/2010 1:11:22 PM
Originally Posted By Sharpshooter:
Not trying to be argumentative , BUT can you prove that by providing the source of your information ?
Originally Posted By mvician:
KAC makes the SOPMOD for LMT
KAC makes the SOPMOD for LMT
Not trying to be argumentative , BUT can you prove that by providing the source of your information ?
Thanks
Send 030 or KevinB an IM and ask them.
12/13/2010 5:10:38 AM
Originally Posted By FMJ:
Mine is all good but has the pat # under the slot
Yes it has the RED Orings
Maybe LMT should show pics of the older model as well
From there pics and what is on the LMT web site , It made it sound like mine was FAKE?
Anyways Thanks guys
I wonder if The FAKE SOPMOD is any good???
Mine is all good but has the pat # under the slot
Yes it has the RED Orings
Maybe LMT should show pics of the older model as well
From there pics and what is on the LMT web site , It made it sound like mine was FAKE?
Anyways Thanks guys
I wonder if The FAKE SOPMOD is any good???
its good enough to be used by the GOV. That MFR code is listed as B5 from Xenia Ohio and they have a gov contract to supply military parts. When you order the LMT NSN the other Part Number Stock sometimes gets shipped. Same thing different contractor. Did a double take on some of ours yesterday. I gues with the "Patent Pending" the Gov was able to do subcontracts to different suppliers.
Source: Google and my Armorer.
12/13/2010 4:29:42 PM
Originally Posted By mvician:
Buy it from a reputable dealer and not from some fly-by-night outfit
Buy it from a reputable dealer and not from some fly-by-night outfit
That's what it all boils down to.
12/13/2010 11:53:20 PM
that airsoft picture above might be a legit sopmod, but what they send you in the mail might not be...
12/14/2010 6:34:42 PM
I have both LMT and Crane stocks and for reference the only difference's I could see on the Crane stocks were the latch is smooth with no checkering, the O-rings are black on the tube caps, the stocks plastic texture is smoother than the LMT's and the rubber butt pad is slightly different - the tabs that attach it to the stock are slightly shorter and if you look at it from the pad end there are 2 holes in the rubber and the pattern is slightly different on the rubber. The tabs on the tube caps are also slightly "knurled".
12/15/2010 11:28:34 AM
You have to be really careful.. at the last local gun show here, a crooked vendor had just about all the optics and stocks from the site above. I had to look close to actually tell the difference on the stocks. The one pictured above is what this vendor had. If not for this site here and information shared to compare placement of pat number etc, I would have never known ahead of time. The Acogs and EOtechs this guy had, once I looked at the recticles it was obvious. But the outside, frickin unreal how close they were. My son actually had to pull me away because I giving the seller crap as he was trying to sell these as the real deal, and I was pointing out to the guys looking them how to tell they were all fakes.
12/24/2010 12:52:17 PM
There's a thread in the archives someplace comparing a real one to a fake. And also giving a durability report on the fake. It was a pretty good thread.
12/25/2010 9:46:15 PM
1/13/2011 5:14:38 PM
Originally Posted By CEK:
I have both LMT and Crane stocks and for reference the only difference's I could see on the Crane stocks were the latch is smooth with no checkering, the O-rings are black on the tube caps, the stocks plastic texture is smoother than the LMT's and the rubber butt pad is slightly different - the tabs that attach it to the stock are slightly shorter and if you look at it from the pad end there are 2 holes in the rubber and the pattern is slightly different on the rubber. The tabs on the tube caps are also slightly "knurled".
I have both LMT and Crane stocks and for reference the only difference's I could see on the Crane stocks were the latch is smooth with no checkering, the O-rings are black on the tube caps, the stocks plastic texture is smoother than the LMT's and the rubber butt pad is slightly different - the tabs that attach it to the stock are slightly shorter and if you look at it from the pad end there are 2 holes in the rubber and the pattern is slightly different on the rubber. The tabs on the tube caps are also slightly "knurled".
thanksfor this information i just got used crane sopmod with all these features. i know where it came from, but was wondering why it was so different from my LMT??
1/22/2011 9:42:44 PM
Originally Posted By mongo001:
If you can get to the archive:
Link
ETA: Alot of the pics are gone, but some are still there.
If you can get to the archive:
Link
ETA: Alot of the pics are gone, but some are still there.
That thread brings back memories. A lot of posters that aren't here anymore.
1/23/2011 9:30:52 AM
Originally Posted By Lancelot:
That thread brings back memories. A lot of posters that aren't here anymore.
Originally Posted By mongo001:
If you can get to the archive:
Link
ETA: Alot of the pics are gone, but some are still there.
If you can get to the archive:
Link
ETA: Alot of the pics are gone, but some are still there.
That thread brings back memories. A lot of posters that aren't here anymore.
Alot of good people went away or fell silent in the past few years.
1/23/2011 7:44:29 PM
As RedX pointed out, LMT isn't the only supplier of SOPMOD buttstocks apparently.
https://aais.ria.army.mil/aais/award_web_10/W52H0910D00240001/000000.pdf
https://aais.ria.army.mil/aais/award_web_10/W52H0910D00240001/000000.pdf
1/23/2011 9:30:14 PM
Originally Posted By SSeric02:
As RedX pointed out, LMT isn't the only supplier of SOPMOD buttstocks apparently.
https://aais.ria.army.mil/aais/award_web_10/W52H0910D00240001/000000.pdf
As RedX pointed out, LMT isn't the only supplier of SOPMOD buttstocks apparently.
https://aais.ria.army.mil/aais/award_web_10/W52H0910D00240001/000000.pdf
I found this info as well. Maybe similar to the company that makes an identical KAC vert. grip under contract.
1/23/2011 9:38:56 PM
Originally Posted By FloridaCreekIndian:
I found this info as well. Maybe similar to the company that makes an identical KAC vert. grip under contract.
Originally Posted By SSeric02:
As RedX pointed out, LMT isn't the only supplier of SOPMOD buttstocks apparently.
https://aais.ria.army.mil/aais/award_web_10/W52H0910D00240001/000000.pdf
As RedX pointed out, LMT isn't the only supplier of SOPMOD buttstocks apparently.
https://aais.ria.army.mil/aais/award_web_10/W52H0910D00240001/000000.pdf
I found this info as well. Maybe similar to the company that makes an identical KAC vert. grip under contract.
Yep, there's a company (not Knight's) that makes whole M4 RAS's under .mil contract, the vendor who shall not be named was selling them awhile back.
1/23/2011 10:52:59 PM
Originally Posted By SSeric02:
Yep, there's a company (not Knight's) that makes whole M4 RAS's under .mil contract, the vendor who shall not be named was selling them awhile back.
Originally Posted By FloridaCreekIndian:
I found this info as well. Maybe similar to the company that makes an identical KAC vert. grip under contract.
Originally Posted By SSeric02:
As RedX pointed out, LMT isn't the only supplier of SOPMOD buttstocks apparently.
https://aais.ria.army.mil/aais/award_web_10/W52H0910D00240001/000000.pdf
As RedX pointed out, LMT isn't the only supplier of SOPMOD buttstocks apparently.
https://aais.ria.army.mil/aais/award_web_10/W52H0910D00240001/000000.pdf
I found this info as well. Maybe similar to the company that makes an identical KAC vert. grip under contract.
Yep, there's a company (not Knight's) that makes whole M4 RAS's under .mil contract, the vendor who shall not be named was selling them awhile back.
I remember the grips but not the RAS. I have the contact number for B5 and was thinking about calling them for info on their stocks. Someone was selling a few in the EE a week or so ago pretty cheap.
1/23/2011 10:57:50 PM
P&S Products, cage code 4U486
http://p-s-products.com/
What's his name still has the listing for blemished M4 RAS's by them on his website, but they're out of stock.
http://p-s-products.com/
What's his name still has the listing for blemished M4 RAS's by them on his website, but they're out of stock.
1/24/2011 6:27:46 PM
Gene Swanson of LMT asked me to send pics
I told him RAINIER ARMS has a picture of my Stock / SOPMOD on there website under the LMT listings
His reply back
My SOPMOD was a earlier model
So according to Gene / LMT They did make 2 types
I told him RAINIER ARMS has a picture of my Stock / SOPMOD on there website under the LMT listings
His reply back
My SOPMOD was a earlier model
So according to Gene / LMT They did make 2 types
1/24/2011 9:50:30 PM
Originally Posted By sd_norske:
What looks different? LMT made some changes a couple of years ago. A QD socket was added and the number was moved from below the sling slot to above the latch.
What color are the o-rings on the caps of the storage tubes? They should be red and there will be two per cap.
What looks different? LMT made some changes a couple of years ago. A QD socket was added and the number was moved from below the sling slot to above the latch.
What color are the o-rings on the caps of the storage tubes? They should be red and there will be two per cap.
I think my o rings are black...I'll have to look at it when I get home.
It came on a complete Defender 2000 lower from a reputable dealer.
Eta: nope I imagined it, they are red.
1/25/2011 9:48:43 AM
Originally Posted By Followthehollow:
I think my o rings are black...I'll have to look at it when I get home.
It came on a complete Defender 2000 lower from a reputable dealer.
Eta: nope I imagined it, they are red.
Originally Posted By sd_norske:
What looks different? LMT made some changes a couple of years ago. A QD socket was added and the number was moved from below the sling slot to above the latch.
What color are the o-rings on the caps of the storage tubes? They should be red and there will be two per cap.
What looks different? LMT made some changes a couple of years ago. A QD socket was added and the number was moved from below the sling slot to above the latch.
What color are the o-rings on the caps of the storage tubes? They should be red and there will be two per cap.
I think my o rings are black...I'll have to look at it when I get home.
It came on a complete Defender 2000 lower from a reputable dealer.
Eta: nope I imagined it, they are red.
Yeah mine are red also. I bought from a LMT approved dealer.
There website shoud show the GEN 1 pics
1/26/2011 12:03:07 PM
Originally Posted By SSeric02:
As RedX pointed out, LMT isn't the only supplier of SOPMOD buttstocks apparently.
https://aais.ria.army.mil/aais/award_web_10/W52H0910D00240001/000000.pdf
As RedX pointed out, LMT isn't the only supplier of SOPMOD buttstocks apparently.
https://aais.ria.army.mil/aais/award_web_10/W52H0910D00240001/000000.pdf
Wow!! Did anyone else notice the $12.28 ea?
1/26/2011 1:14:37 PM
Originally Posted By Saintless:
Wow!! Did anyone else notice the $12.28 ea?
Originally Posted By SSeric02:
As RedX pointed out, LMT isn't the only supplier of SOPMOD buttstocks apparently.
https://aais.ria.army.mil/aais/award_web_10/W52H0910D00240001/000000.pdf
As RedX pointed out, LMT isn't the only supplier of SOPMOD buttstocks apparently.
https://aais.ria.army.mil/aais/award_web_10/W52H0910D00240001/000000.pdf
Wow!! Did anyone else notice the $12.28 ea?
Yep, CRAZY!!!!!
1/26/2011 4:09:52 PM
Originally Posted By Augee:
Not sure what changes were made where and when as far as moving the patent numbers as I don't have my LMTs around to check at the moment, but they're all Gen 1 (no QD). IIRC, it was moved when the Gen 2 stock was introduced as you can see in the stocks where there has been a modification to the mold for the QD slot, and it would have interfered with where the old patent numbers were. That being said, if you have the two red O-rings and the LMT marked latch, I would state with a fair degree of confidence that you have a genuine LMT stock.
As for who makes 'em, as someone else mentioned, the SOPMOD stocks are manufactured for LMT by KAC. There are also oodles of Airsoft counterfeits out there, some of them that fit on commercial receiver extensions, so a "commercial" SOPMOD is definitely a red flag. Some of the counterfeits still mimic the old style markings of the Gen 1 stocks, to my (albeit limited) knowledge of Airsoft accessories, there's not a counterfeit Gen 2 SOPMOD out there. Also, all the counterfeit SOPMODs do not have LMT marked latches, rather they have standard latches.
One final note, however, just because a stock does not have an LMT latch doesn't automatically make it counterfeit, either. The very first "Enhanced Cheekweld" M4 stocks were manufactured by NSWC-Crane and used standard Colt collapsible stock latches before LMT/KAC picked up production. I've heard that ARMS sold a few of the original Crane stocks several years back, and a few of them are circulating around. They're not any better or worse, and really more of just a novelty to have, but they are not "clones" or "fakes" in a strict sense.
HTH,
~Augee
Not sure what changes were made where and when as far as moving the patent numbers as I don't have my LMTs around to check at the moment, but they're all Gen 1 (no QD). IIRC, it was moved when the Gen 2 stock was introduced as you can see in the stocks where there has been a modification to the mold for the QD slot, and it would have interfered with where the old patent numbers were. That being said, if you have the two red O-rings and the LMT marked latch, I would state with a fair degree of confidence that you have a genuine LMT stock.
As for who makes 'em, as someone else mentioned, the SOPMOD stocks are manufactured for LMT by KAC. There are also oodles of Airsoft counterfeits out there, some of them that fit on commercial receiver extensions, so a "commercial" SOPMOD is definitely a red flag. Some of the counterfeits still mimic the old style markings of the Gen 1 stocks, to my (albeit limited) knowledge of Airsoft accessories, there's not a counterfeit Gen 2 SOPMOD out there. Also, all the counterfeit SOPMODs do not have LMT marked latches, rather they have standard latches.
One final note, however, just because a stock does not have an LMT latch doesn't automatically make it counterfeit, either. The very first "Enhanced Cheekweld" M4 stocks were manufactured by NSWC-Crane and used standard Colt collapsible stock latches before LMT/KAC picked up production. I've heard that ARMS sold a few of the original Crane stocks several years back, and a few of them are circulating around. They're not any better or worse, and really more of just a novelty to have, but they are not "clones" or "fakes" in a strict sense.
HTH,
~Augee
I forgot to thank you for your info Augee
So Thank you
FMJ
2/8/2011 1:23:06 PM
LOOKING AT MY NEW MIDWAY CATALOG PAGE 514
COLT AR-15 22
Special Force Crane Buttstock mil spec
64.99
Looks like COLT is makeing a copy
COLT AR-15 22
Special Force Crane Buttstock mil spec
64.99
Looks like COLT is makeing a copy
2/8/2011 1:34:41 PM
Originally Posted By FMJ:
LOOKING AT MY NEW MIDWAY CATALOG PAGE 514
COLT AR-15 22
Special Force Crane Buttstock mil spec
64.99
Looks like COLT is makeing a copy
LOOKING AT MY NEW MIDWAY CATALOG PAGE 514
COLT AR-15 22
Special Force Crane Buttstock mil spec
64.99
Looks like COLT is makeing a copy
That is the Umarex Stock for the Colt/Umarex 22 (made by/for Umarex USA), been around for a long time and can be had for around $50 new in various places.
Never seen one in person but often wondered if they were as strong as the "real" version.
http://www.umarexusa.com/product/Colt-22-Rimfire-Special-Force-Crane-Stock,149,60.htm
2/24/2011 1:01:21 PM
i just bought a clone in a blue plastic bag and a cage code 58VQ8 nsn 1005-01-544-9825 pn 19200 13020680 no lmt marks and black orings latch like the cran sopmod. looks like a usgi contract stockany thoughts?
2/24/2011 1:12:28 PM
Originally Posted By chestnut101:
i just bought a clone in a blue plastic bag and a cage code 58VQ8 nsn 1005-01-544-9825 pn 19200 13020680 no lmt marks and black orings latch like the cran sopmod. looks like a usgi contract stockany thoughts?
i just bought a clone in a blue plastic bag and a cage code 58VQ8 nsn 1005-01-544-9825 pn 19200 13020680 no lmt marks and black orings latch like the cran sopmod. looks like a usgi contract stockany thoughts?
Ya, why did you buy a clone? Do you have an Airsoft gun?
2/24/2011 5:14:29 PM
noi have 1 of each version, including the crane sopmod and i wanted to look at this one. it appears to be and isue stock not an airsoft toy. its very tight on the tube and locks upnice. the bag and marking appear to be us gi issue. i listed the numbers so some one with better internets skill could check and see if they were/are legit.
2/24/2011 5:44:54 PM
Originally Posted By chestnut101:
i just bought a clone in a blue plastic bag and a cage code 58VQ8 nsn 1005-01-544-9825 pn 19200 13020680 no lmt marks and black orings latch like the cran sopmod. looks like a usgi contract stockany thoughts?
i just bought a clone in a blue plastic bag and a cage code 58VQ8 nsn 1005-01-544-9825 pn 19200 13020680 no lmt marks and black orings latch like the cran sopmod. looks like a usgi contract stockany thoughts?
That is not an LMT, sorry..
See LMT's Home page... http://www.lewismachine.net/
Here is the Quote from there:
"LMT News
Buyer Beware
The following notice is being posted for your protection. We have been fielding calls about a SOPMOD buttstock (NSN 1005-01-544-9825) which looks like ours. MFR 58VQ8 IS NOT LMT. Our cage code is 3W544.
(Figure 1) is a genuine Lewis Machine & Tool SOPMOD Buttstock. Look for the genuine LMT marking on the under side of the release lever. Also note the placement of the Patent Pending (Figure 2) on the genuine Lewis Machine & Tool SOPMOD is on the flat above the release lever under the cheek weld. Not in the center of the flat. (Figure 3)
The counterfeit stock (Figure 4) has 192000 13020680 MFR 56V08 and the underside of the release lever has no marking. (Figure 5)"
2/24/2011 6:52:23 PM
Blue bag, white label? Its mil issue. You are good to go.
2/24/2011 7:25:11 PM
Originally Posted By REDX:
Blue bag, white label? Its mil issue. You are good to go.
Blue bag, white label? Its mil issue. You are good to go.
So like, China doesn't make blue bags and white labels....Ha, Ha, sorry couldn't resist that one..
But yeah, IF it is not a Counterfit Counterfit (a China copy of B5 Systems copy of LMT version) it was made under a MIL Contract by B5 Systems, Inc out of Ohio at a selling cost to the Military of $14 and change.. makes you wonder how much the real LMT version is sold to MIL for....hmmmmm.
2/24/2011 10:09:28 PM
ACCORDING to midwayusa
its a Colt factory replacement
Made to the same specs
Although I love my SOPMOD
I dont think they are worth the price since one can get a EMOD now
its a Colt factory replacement
Made to the same specs
Although I love my SOPMOD
I dont think they are worth the price since one can get a EMOD now
